Battlefield 3 General Discussion Thread

this game literally has some of the worst players i've ever seen in a video game.

people hate points. they hate ranking up faster and being higher on the scoreboard. pressing 3 every so often for several thousand extra points is too difficult to grasp. like if you stop to shoot or hold something just fucking throw health and ammo down. it helps you and others and you shit points, 200 point medals galore which eventually add up into a 10000.


reviving, healing, giving ammo, or even spotting seems like a rarity. it's amazing.
 
I admit I didn't spot much at first (didn't play BC2 much so I wasn't familiar with the mechanic) but now I run around hitting Q most of the time and it really helps. Especially with aircraft that are sometimes hard to see.
 
MavericK96 said:
I admit I didn't spot much at first (didn't play BC2 much so I wasn't familiar with the mechanic) but now I run around hitting Q most of the time and it really helps. Especially with aircraft that are sometimes hard to see.
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This is the main reason i have quit playing MP. I cannot see anyone at all and when i do its already dead or its to late.
 
Honestly I don't have a huge problem seeing most players/vehicles in the game. Sometimes people will prone and hide pretty well but in general if everyone is just running around normally it's not that hard IMO.
 
socK said:
this game literally has some of the worst players i've ever seen in a video game.

people hate points. they hate ranking up faster and being higher on the scoreboard. pressing 3 every so often for several thousand extra points is too difficult to grasp. like if you stop to shoot or hold something just fucking throw health and ammo down. it helps you and others and you shit points, 200 point medals galore which eventually add up into a 10000.


reviving, healing, giving ammo, or even spotting seems like a rarity. it's amazing.
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COD players who bought the hype and got BF3 on release. They have no idea what anything does except the weapons, and even that confuses most of them since the guns have strange and unusual things like bullet spread/drop and recoil.
 
German Muscle said:
This is the main reason i have quit playing MP. I cannot see anyone at all and when i do its already dead or its to late.
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IR Scope is your friend

I see everyone.....and vehicles, to me the IR scope is like cheating, I LOVE IT
 
German Muscle said:
level 1 FTL. Yeah im still level 1.
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Well any gun can use the IR scope.

I think its like 250 kills for the gun you want it on?

Seriously.....Wait until you get this scope it freakin ROCKS... Specially on Operation Metro and the Oil field map? (cant remember name off the top of my head)

Patience man...Level 1 is just the begining lol
 
IRNV requires 100 kills regardless of the gun. The first scope attachment (which one depends on the class of weapon) is at 10 kills.

From a balance perspective in terms, thermal optics on vehicles is better designed with tradeoffs than IRNV on guns.
 
Was a bit slow on the uptake here, picking up BF3 only yesterday and completing the SP campaign today.

Was kind of surprised by the SP game, I thought it would be more of an indicator of how the MP game plays. Still, enjoyed the story and the close combat scenes even though quicktime events are a bit lame.

Noticed that 5.1 surround sound wasn't enabled by default and had to edit the config file for it to work.. haha. Come on.. Really???

Anyway, now on to the main attraction with the MP, can't wait to see how it plays :D
 
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Well I finally hit Rank 45 ( Colonel ) and I am burned out now. I didn't get burned out of Bad Company 2 for months. It's only been a week and I already want to take a break from the game. There is something missing that doesn't make it feel like a battlefield 2 successor. Like no commander mode or requesting a artillery strike. But the graphics, my god they are amazing. Looking at the sun will turn you blind. Added a very good realism (except for the fact you can survive a headshot with a defibrillator).

The noob level wasn't that bad as I thought it was. People were spotting targets and dropping health packs. The only issue I had was having little to no support classes in my squad or in my entire army. I litterly had to ask someone from another squad to drop an ammo pack in the Grand Bazaar alley so we wouldn't get overruned with the opposing army.

Did I get my moneys worth? Well still haven't tried co-op or the single player. But I never viewed Battlfield 3 having a single player element. Maybe I will be pleasantly suprised. So far it seems it was worth it ( well the muliplayer side that is). I am totally fucked with the jets to level up now. Enemy jets just fire missles and I am done. No flares or missles I am just done. But I did luck out with the attack helicopters. Atleat I leveled them up by being a gunner :)
 
limitedaccess said:
From a balance perspective in terms, thermal optics on vehicles is better designed with tradeoffs than IRNV on guns.
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I don't get why the landmines show up so well on the thermal optics though. People and vehicles, sure, but the landmines show up so well it is almost a hack.
 
Mr Mean said:
Well I finally hit Rank 45 ( Colonel ) and I am burned out now. I didn't get burned out of Bad Company 2 for months. It's only been a week and I already want to take a break from the game. There is something missing that doesn't make it feel like a battlefield 2 successor. Like no commander mode or requesting a artillery strike. But the graphics, my god they are amazing. Looking at the sun will turn you blind. Added a very good realism (except for the fact you can survive a headshot with a defibrillator).

The noob level wasn't that bad as I thought it was. People were spotting targets and dropping health packs. The only issue I had was having little to no support classes in my squad or in my entire army. I litterly had to ask someone from another squad to drop an ammo pack in the Grand Bazaar alley so we wouldn't get overruned with the opposing army.

Did I get my moneys worth? Well still haven't tried co-op or the single player. But I never viewed Battlfield 3 having a single player element. Maybe I will be pleasantly suprised. So far it seems it was worth it ( well the muliplayer side that is). I am totally fucked with the jets to level up now. Enemy jets just fire missles and I am done. No flares or missles I am just done. But I did luck out with the attack helicopters. Atleat I leveled them up by being a gunner :)
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Yea so the AA friendly fire is getting worse as more people are figuring it out. It takes people quite awhile to notice it too they are like "hey sorry heli was really buggy" then 5 more times they are like omfg omfg you *********.
So hopefully you guys who "aren't noticing it" aren't just being oblivious like the sillies I saw today.
I'm glad it's getting worse though because hopefully that will put a stick in DICE's ass to fix it. Won't get fixed before mw3 though.

And the [H]ard 48 man is perpetually empty since the crash so that option is out at the moment.

People are too fixated on their KD ratio to play for points because for some fucking reason people think global stats are the shit when they actually ruin games as you can see clearly if you have been playing BF3.

I'm just glad I'm over caring about my KD because kamikaze C4 is too much fun. Of course, after I get heli tipped I have to suicide to switch from engi to support so that probably adds another death.

The COOP would be great if it didn't take 5 seconds to beat on hard and there was more than 1 (lame) vehicle mission. Exfiltration can be a bitch to complete if you get a moron though so be wary of that. The rest of the coop 1 person can carry even on hard. Unless the moron can't hit the scripted button at the end of the final mission.

If I could play firestorm conquest, damavand peak conquest, and some of the good rush maps all day long without being friendly fire camped I would love the game. But that's like impossible.
 
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mr_zen256 said:
Noticed that 5.1 surround sound wasn't enabled by default and had to edit the config file for it to work.. haha. Come on.. Really???
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"Enhanced Stereo Mix" is enabled by default, which forces a two-speaker mix. Uncheck that and you'll get surround (if your system audio is in surround mode).
 
flegg said:
The COOP would be great if it didn't take 5 seconds to beat on hard and there was more than 1 (lame) vehicle mission. Exfiltration can be a bitch to complete if you get a moron though so be wary of that. The rest of the coop 1 person can carry even on hard. Unless the moron can't hit the scripted button at the end of the final mission.
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Hey Flegg, I know doing Co-OP will have some weapon unlocks and such. But aside from the weapon unlocks what is the point of co-op so you can play with your friends? I've been doing some random co-op and it's OK nothing special. The one with the helo was a nightmare for people who can't fly. I was praying I would be the pilot because everybody kept crashing the helo. Once I got to be a pilot we finally beat it. But my god it was painful to play that stage :) I had to quit because I have to get ready for work ( It's 7AM here). But so far it doesn't seem very eventful.
 
^yeah man that stage is hard. Took me and my buddy almost an hour to beat that stage since none of of us know how to fly haha. But is lots of fun if you play with friend since you really need to communicate in that stage. It felt rewarding when we finally beat it
 
flegg said:
The COOP would be great if it didn't take 5 seconds to beat on hard and there was more than 1 (lame) vehicle mission. Exfiltration can be a bitch to complete if you get a moron though so be wary of that. The rest of the coop 1 person can carry even on hard. Unless the moron can't hit the scripted button at the end of the final mission.
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Which missions take 5 seconds? heh...
 
Mr Mean said:
Hey Flegg, I know doing Co-OP will have some weapon unlocks and such. But aside from the weapon unlocks what is the point of co-op so you can play with your friends? I've been doing some random co-op and it's OK nothing special. The one with the helo was a nightmare for people who can't fly. I was praying I would be the pilot because everybody kept crashing the helo. Once I got to be a pilot we finally beat it. But my god it was painful to play that stage :) I had to quit because I have to get ready for work ( It's 7AM here). But so far it doesn't seem very eventful.
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I play for fun unlike everybody else now apparently so I duno? Fun?

The COOP isn't amazing but it's solid. Just too short. All except ex-filtration don't take like if you don't rambo.
 
Intel_Hydralisk said:
I remember in BC2 tagging the snipers with a tracer dart so they glowed like christmas tree lights along the hillside.
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Better yet, tag the opposing sniper, let him run around like an idiot while you keep your CG locked onto him. Let chaos ensue for a bit until you finally press fire and watch him try to outrun the nice ball of explosion headed his way.

I always laughed when I did that.
 
I have one major problem with BF3. Stupid people. Most Assaults have no idea what a Defib is. Most Support have no idea what a Resupply box is. It's quite annoying. On most servers, there is barely any teamwork aspect. I miss that from BF2 and BFBC2. Rolling with squads (even in random servers) and working like a team. Now it feels like just 32 or 64 lonewolfs.

The best is when an Assault TKs me (literally a foot away from me) by mistake yet won't even Defib me...

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE! :mad:
 
It does seem a bit strange that there seem to be so few people playing support - I recall that being one of the more popular classes in BC2.

I'm not exactly enamored with the damage that the machine guns do, but I get so many point bonuses and re-supply ribbons that it makes up for my (usually) terrible number of kills. Plus those couple of times per level when you can actually get the MG mounted up in a good spot and lay into the enemy are really fun :D
 
Hailwood said:
It does seem a bit strange that there seem to be so few people playing support - I recall that being one of the more popular classes in BC2.

I'm not exactly enamored with the damage that the machine guns do, but I get so many point bonuses and re-supply ribbons that it makes up for my (usually) terrible number of kills. Plus those couple of times per level when you can actually get the MG mounted up in a good spot and lay into the enemy are really fun :D
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its because support in BC2 had the guns Engineers use in BF3.

The guns that Support use now, are the guns medics used in BC2.

I think thats mostly right?
 
qwertyaas said:
I have one major problem with BF3. Stupid people. Most Assaults have no idea what a Defib is. Most Support have no idea what a Resupply box is. It's quite annoying. On most servers, there is barely any teamwork aspect. I miss that from BF2 and BFBC2. Rolling with squads (even in random servers) and working like a team. Now it feels like just 32 or 64 lonewolfs.

The best is when an Assault TKs me (literally a foot away from me) by mistake yet won't even Defib me...

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE! :mad:
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You should come play on our servers. We are big on teamplay!

http://www.cainslair.com
 
qwertyaas said:
I'll add that to favorites when I get home!

I remember my list of favorites from BF2. If you weren't part of a squad or following squad leader and commander orders.... kick.

Those were the days.
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Yeah, this game is not the same unless good teamplay is involved IMO. If you have TeamSpeak, you and anyone else is welcome to join us. We have a plugin the splits the teams up automatically in TS.
 
Adam.C said:
Yeah, this game is not the same unless good teamplay is involved IMO. If you have TeamSpeak, you and anyone else is welcome to join us. We have a plugin the splits the teams up automatically in TS.
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nice! gonna check it out after work today.
 
Adam.C said:
Originally Posted by qwertyaas
I have one major problem with BF3. Stupid people. Most Assaults have no idea what a Defib is. Most Support have no idea what a Resupply box is. It's quite annoying. On most servers, there is barely any teamwork aspect. I miss that from BF2 and BFBC2. Rolling with squads (even in random servers) and working like a team. Now it feels like just 32 or 64 lonewolfs.

The best is when an Assault TKs me (literally a foot away from me) by mistake yet won't even Defib me...

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!



You should come play on our servers. We are big on teamplay!

http://www.cainslair.com
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Finally somoene who shares my thought on the gameplay.

Where is this server located, I would love to be able to play this game the way it was supposed to be. Still angry at DICE. Of all the numerous complaints I have, the biggest one is still the lack of a commander.I am seriously thinking of trying BF2 again after this fiasco.
 
limitedaccess said:
Apparently the recon MAV counts as ground vehicle and missiles will lock on it (at least the guided missile from the attack heli). Learned this the hard way as it was in front of an AA.
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Interesting because SAM's lock it as well, although when shot down it's counted as enemy equipment destroyed.

DarkStryke said:
You give up repair to get AT mines, which are very useful on pretty much every map. Most engineers I see don't even have the repair tool once they unlock mines.
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I normally run with mines unless I'm planning on driving a tank or mobile AA platform, and in those cases I switch to the repair tool.
 
cukoodukoo said:
Finally somoene who shares my thought on the gameplay.

Where is this server located, I would love to be able to play this game the way it was supposed to be. Still angry at DICE. Of all the numerous complaints I have, the biggest one is still the lack of a commander.I am seriously thinking of trying BF2 again after this fiasco.
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This server is currently in St.Louis, MI. We do have another server that is currently down, as our admin is doing things with it. We may make the 2nd server a 32 player Rush until Karkand comes out, as that is what the second server will be used for.
 
Adam.C said:
This server is currently in St.Louis, MI. We do have another server that is currently down, as our admin is doing things with it. We may make the 2nd server a 32 player Rush until Karkand comes out, as that is what the second server will be used for.
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I live close to this location and love the strategic, teamwork oriented the rare times it happens.

But I do not have a mic and really have no desire to have one (don't like to wear headphones)

Can I still participate considering I'll absolutely do my part in a squad or am I crippled due to no mic?
 
socK said:
this game literally has some of the worst players i've ever seen in a video game.

people hate points. they hate ranking up faster and being higher on the scoreboard. pressing 3 every so often for several thousand extra points is too difficult to grasp. like if you stop to shoot or hold something just fucking throw health and ammo down. it helps you and others and you shit points, 200 point medals galore which eventually add up into a 10000.


reviving, healing, giving ammo, or even spotting seems like a rarity. it's amazing.
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Ya I never get that, I swear sometimes there is nothing you can do to get people to throw an ammo pack out. It's happened a ton of times where I've had to go into a battle out of ammo.
 
Razzy said:
I live close to this location and love the strategic, teamwork oriented the rare times it happens.

But I do not have a mic and really have no desire to have one (don't like to wear headphones)

Can I still participate considering I'll absolutely do my part in a squad or am I crippled due to no mic?
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Of course! Anyone is welcome to play!

You can even run TS without a mic if you want to hear the chatter.

Also join us on our forums, they stay pretty active. :)
 
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