Netflix Performance on Top ISP Networks

You know... all these ISPs are crying because they are losing money to streaming video sites like netflix/hulu/etc.... why don't they just expand and get more customers? Most people don't use or even know of netflix so the odds are their favor that if they just took some of their greedy profits and EXPANDED THEIR BUSINESS, they wouldn't be losing so many customers..... greedy assholes. And I haven't even heard of half these ISPs... why don't these asshole companies expand for a change? I am in a major US city and all we have is comcast... fucking WTF?! Invest in your companies or STFU is what we all should say to the ISPs regarding this matter.
 


this is why Charter filed chapter 11. Massive infrastructure investment. Yes their CS sucks, but when it works, it really fucking works.
 
Dylan80 said:
You know... all these ISPs are crying because they are losing money to streaming video sites like netflix/hulu/etc.... why don't they just expand and get more customers?
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Because they can't expand into areas where local governments have cut deals with the incumbent providers to keep out competition - which is basically every place that the population density is high enough for their service to be profitable.
 
According to the graph, it looks like my Cox...


*puts on sunglasses*


...is pretty [H]ard. :cool:
 
And my shitty ISP doesn't make the list. I can get Charter 5 miles down the road! Time to move!
 
I'm starting to think my intertubes must be clogged. Streaming Netflix on a Cox connection for me is painful. Can't go more than an hour without a stop for buffering. Oddly enough, my connection really started to suffer after I cancelled my cable service. Once they installed their filter in the box to stop cable from coming in, my connection went to shit.
 
It's transparency like this that should help prevent abusive throttling.
 
GreenMonkey said:
Charter's performance is always fantastic. When it's working. Which admittedly is almost all of the time.

When there's trouble, Charter C.S. sucks hard.
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If you have residential it does. AT work (currently there) we have business and if fit hits he shan they come out in 2 hours or less.
 
Steve said:
I got Cox, the seems to be pretty good so far.
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I use Cox too..even have it setup to use with my xbox thru a wireless-n router to my bedroom and never have any problems. And of course hardwired bluray player and pcs around the house don't have any problems.
 
I'm suprised cox rates so high, based on my HD streaming experience.
 
The problem with this data is that it's lumping cable companies that only provide 10Mb/s+ speeds in equally with companies that offer multiple tiers of service from 768/128 up to 50Mb/s connections. Of course their average will be lower, but if you have one of the top tier accounts you'll be as good or better than the other top providers. It's interesting data, but not particularly useful.
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Bingo! This is not a good representation, and can be very misleading unless you really understand the datums provided and how the datums were provided.
 
Charter cable subscriber ... I reflect most what everyone says. When it's working it's great, when it's not CS is slow to non existent. Mine an my wife's jobs are both home offices, so when the interwebs goes down ... so does my job performance. So far in two years with Charter, not many complaints.
 
If any of you frequent dslreports.com you will see many bad posts regarding Frontier Communications. I had them for 2 weeks, and I can tell you from start to finish that ISP is the worst! Sales, tech, customer service, just horrible!

Looks like from that graph Frontier has only management to blame, not "Heavy Users".

As for now, I am happy with a low latency, always fast connection via Cable!
 
I've been a Frontier customer ever since they bought out Verizon's FiOS here in Oregon.

It's worked fine for me. I have 25MB up/down and I never have an issue getting that bandwidth when I need it.

They've recently announced that they're raising their TV rates by 46%, but I'm in a 2-year contract so that shouldn't impact me just yet. But it looks like they're not too committed to being a TV provider for much longer.
 
tweaked said:


this is why Charter filed chapter 11. Massive infrastructure investment. Yes their CS sucks, but when it works, it really fucking works.
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Yep.
Say what you will about Charter, but I always get my paid for 25Mb/s down and 3Mb/s up. It's actually usually about 30 down and 5-7 up. I have yet to experience an outage in the 6 months I've had it and the latency is only about 2x what I had at ATT; which was in the 40's so it's not really a noticable difference.
 
I didnt expect anything better from Timewarner, although I dont have much troble with it, I do occasionally loose HD stream and it will go back and forth. I do have the fastest routher you can buy at the moment. I have no trouble streaming locally even 30gb mkv files, but I blame it on timewarner.

They are lazy and they have rolled out docsis 3.0 on parts of souther california, I even read in DSL reports almost all of socal is upgraded to docsis 3.0 and they have codes in system but they are not rolling out the service yet in areas with less competition, thats where I fall. I hate verizon as much for being lazy and not laying the lines for fios to our block. Right across the street I have my friends enjoying 25/25 fios and I am stuck at 20/2 timewarner.
 
The companies that say they are loosing profit is crap. I mean look at japan offering speed ten times better then ours and I dont see them complaining. You give people faster speeds they will happily pay more, and you piss them off when you keep using the excuse to raise rates for the same old shitty upload speeds.

If timewarner came to me and said I give you 50/10 right now for 100 bucks. I will sign up in a heart beat. I want the damn upload speed.I have no choice, verizon chooses not to serve my area, they have fios next block right across the street, I mean shit is less then half a mile away. I dont know why they would stop right there. Verizon stopped expanding and started focusing more on the current customers by offering TV service to them. The last time I talked to a rep, she actually wasn't just a rep she was one of the managers becuase the rep didn't know shit. She told me straight up that verizon has pretty much put the brakes on expanding service, they wont be doing it for a few more years. Right now they are just focused on pushing fios tv out to current customers.
 
would be nice to see verizon FIOS included in that chart...must be measuring crappy verizon dsl instead.

FIOS has been so much better than my previous ISPs of cablevison and comcast.
 
I have charter and the only time the actual service sucked was back in 2000 (in the St. Louis area) where you could only have a decent connection from midnight to the early morning during the week (weekends were terrible). Customer service...that is a different story. Back in 2000-2001 I didn't have any issues with their CS, but recently...oh boy man they are not helpful at all. Luckily, outages are few and far between. I can't remember the last time I had an outage.
 
NKD said:
The companies that say they are loosing profit is crap. I mean look at japan offering speed ten times better then ours and I dont see them complaining. You give people faster speeds they will happily pay more, and you piss them off when you keep using the excuse to raise rates for the same old shitty upload speeds.
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Japan isn't really a good example now since they recently banned slingbox like devices in order to protect the Anime industry. If it starts to become profitable again I can easily see them not wanting to deal with Crunchyroll or other similar sites since it would be more profitable to go back to selling two shows for $30, instead of getting a small portion of ad fees currently.
 
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