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Sandy Bridge Reviews Released!

Isn't it nice building a OC top of the range PC less than a year ago and having it being obsolete already :(. You think we'd learn....

You were raped by progress.

Tomorrow is here to stay.
 
The only thing in SB that I'm really drooling over right now is the hardware video encoder. I do encode videos on my laptop (i7 720QM) for mobile devices and the software encoding performance is pretty lacking compared to desktop performance. A SB laptop is appealing for that and the extra speed.

It is surprising that the SB hardware encoding quality is fairly good since GPGPU encoding quality has been a bit lacking. I had expected about the same mediocre quality.
 
all I hear is the final nail in AMD's coffin :D

I really believe AMD will have a hard time with SB until Bulldozer is finally a product. The reason is SB makes Thuban a less than $200 US chip.

Edit: I will keep an eye on their stock. Looking to buy low.
 
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anybody have any ideas how this built-in DRM in SB works??? I just heard about it this morning.
It might have to do with app signing. Don't like it, don't use it. You don't have to use signed apps or an OS that enforces signed apps.

Hysteria++ (again)

Ever wonder why sources that "know" these super secret details never just say what it is? Wild conjecture gets more clicks.

eta: don't want to play "hollywood's" drm stuff, then don't. Some people may find value in it while others are ideologically opposed to the whole concept, often while blissfully interacting with content protection every day.
 
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So I hope SuperBiiz is reliable as I've never used them before. Their price on the Gigabyte UD4 was $176.99 after the coupon code versus Amazon's $212.99. That's a pretty significant difference so I went with SuperBiiz. Now I just need a CPU. :cool:
 
So I hope SuperBiiz is reliable as I've never used them before. Their price on the Gigabyte UD4 was $176.99 after the coupon code versus Amazon's $212.99. That's a pretty significant difference so I went with SuperBiiz. Now I just need a CPU. :cool:

What's the code :)? EDIT found it: BYEBYE2010 $177 + $13 shipping = 190 shipped ground and slow though... rather pay the extra bit for it from amazon personally since I don't really know superbiiz.
 
So I hope SuperBiiz is reliable as I've never used them before.
SuperBiiz is eWiz. I never had problems with them. The company has been around for a while.

fixed inaccurate info
 
SuperBiiz is eWiz is GoogleGear. Google forced a name change years ago, for some reason. ;) I never had problems with them. The company has been around for a while.

No, zipzoomfly (ripboomlie) was googlegear... Superbiiz was just ewiz :).
 
SuperBiiz is eWiz is GoogleGear. Google forced a name change years ago, for some reason. ;) I never had problems with them. The company has been around for a while.

umm i though googlegear was zipzoom fly?
 
i feel so bad for amd :(

i also think bulldozer will be a disappointment too although at least we should see some nice price drops across the board now.
 
Superbiiz / eWiz are perfectly safe places to shop. I've bought a few things from them over the years.
 
When you compare SB to Lynnfield at equal clocks, it's not compelling at all for us to upgrade. I had a feeling they would pull this card, and it seems almost no review site (currently) is recognizing this. I.e. some are calling for a landslide victory when you compare the i5 760 vs. the i5 2500K, but then fail to realize the clock advantage at hand.

The i7 970 (3.2Ghz) is the only one close to the clock rates of the 2400 and 2500 (3.1 and 3.3Ghz respectively). Obviously we at H aren't running our Lynnfields at stock, so all those reviews are kind of missing critical information in that respect.

I currently have a i7 860, and I don't see much of an improvement, adjusting for the same clock speeds, when comparing the i7 870 to the new i5 2500k or i7 2600k.

Main advantage to SB seems to be the higher overclock, which requires buying the 2500k or 2600k.
So is it worth upgrading my motherboard/CPU to move from 3.5Ghz (runs 4.0Ghz in single threaded turbo mode) to a SB at a possible 4.5Ghz? Since only a couple video apps can push my current CPU more than 75%, I'd have to say no. Not worth replacing the system board/cpu for a possible 25% increase.

As for the new i3 chips, without overclocking, they are going to lose some market share to AMD. Really liked the ability to buy a $99 cpu and overclock it from 2.93 Ghz to 3.5 Ghz on the stock heat sink.

However, one of the new T series i5 chips @35 watts might make a good low power HTPC, if the price is reasonable.
 
Crazy performance numbers. I wonder if Bulldozer will be able to live up to its hype though. If they really going to give it an "FX" name, those performance numbers could be crazy. Then again, they could be a huge letdown.
 
i bet there will be alot of x6 and i5 on the for sale forum very soon.
i myself will wait till bulldozer is out and then grab the best one.
 
ok guys now that weve seen these numbers. what should i do?
specs.
q6600 oc to 3.6gig
8gigs or ram
p5n-d mobo with pencil volt mod.
sli 8800gtx

with that in mind, should i upgrade my vid card first then wait for the 2011 by fall or upgrade my cpu/mobo/ram first? keep in mind that its only metro thats giving me a hard time even with 2 gpu. just want your opinion is all. tia
 
As for the new i3 chips, without overclocking, they are going to lose some market share to AMD. Really liked the ability to buy a $99 cpu and overclock it from 2.93 Ghz to 3.5 Ghz on the stock heat sink.

However, one of the new T series i5 chips @35 watts might make a good low power HTPC, if the price is reasonable.

Yeah I'm a bit puzzled why they didn't release a K-version for their i3 dual-core. It basically replaces all budget chips in that segment for good. And we definitely could have seen that performance earlier, if they didn't release the turd that was the Clarkdale.
 
Clarkdale is pretty awesome. What exactly was wrong with it?

I just picked up an i5 661 yesterday for $130 (Fry's) to replace an i3 540 and both CPUs were pretty good for the price. A couple of Clarkdale processors are still among the most efficient performance/watt CPUs available (i5 661 and i3 540 are in the top 3 tested, including SB processors): http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/...#abschnitt_performanceleistungsaufnahmerating
 
IMO, the only Clarkdales that were priced correctly are the i3's. The i5 Clarkdales overlapped into the quad-core territory - putting them into no man's land. Also considering the i5 750 deals at $149/$169, it makes little sense to buy an i5 Clarkdale. And yeah, the design of having the IMC off die (but on-package) hurt latency (and performance).
 
Haha - what happens if Bulldozer sucks?
We aren't going to putting bridges + sand in the AMD thread are we? (ok that just sounds terrible now that I typed it out)
 
You guys hear something? I do............


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gotta admit thats a sexy machine
 
How dare you Intel.

How dare you lift an NDA without retail availability. For shame :mad:
 
How dare you Intel.

How dare you lift an NDA without retail availability. For shame :mad:
For reals. I hate paper launches. Not sure this really is since the launch date is still a few days away.
 
He didn't want to post the current reality:
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I would say the Phenom II line is in this situation. The Bulldozer line will be fine provided the highest clocks are 3.4 GHz or better for the 3 module / 6 core version.

In the server market AMD can win provided again that they can get the clocks up. AMDs cores will do well against hyperthreaded cores. But that requires applications or environments that need more than 4 threads.
 
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if they didn't release the turd that was the Clarkdale.

Disagree.
A cheap i3 530/540 for $99, a cheap <$99 motherboard, 4GB DDR3, and a simple overclock to 3.5+Ghz, makes for a pretty nice and cheap basic system.

With SB removing the ability to overclock the i3 CPU's, your stuck at 2.93, or spend a little more for 3.3Ghz which is still slower. Even the i5-2300 at almost 2x the price, while faster in multithreaded apps since it's a quad core, would still be slower on older single threaded apps. I'd have to go with the i5 2400 @$184 with the 3.4Ghz turbo mode to get close to the same perfomance on single/dual threaded apps.
 
I will admit Sandy was better then I expected even the IGP seems competant.. that said I dont trust Intel drivers to properly render scenes.. I think reviewrs may need to review scene quality again somthign that has not been relevant in AMD/Nvidia battles of late. I bet Intel cheating with GPU numbers somehow.. could be wrong but would like it looked in to.
 
ok guys now that weve seen these numbers. what should i do?
specs.
q6600 oc to 3.6gig
8gigs or ram
p5n-d mobo with pencil volt mod.
sli 8800gtx

with that in mind, should i upgrade my vid card first then wait for the 2011 by fall or upgrade my cpu/mobo/ram first? keep in mind that its only metro thats giving me a hard time even with 2 gpu. just want your opinion is all. tia



if you can wait i would hold off for 2011 socket. thats just me. Even though the 2600k would be a nice upgrade.
 
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