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What is the cheapest you have found?

I'm specifically looking for a 46'' LED for my living room.

Lowest online i have found so far is $1,250.
 
K, did some price hounding since I am looking for someone else as well......

What is the cheapest you have found?

I'm specifically looking for a 46'' LED for my living room.

Lowest online i have found so far is $1,250.

You might want to check this one out... it meets your requirements and beats your lowest price...

$1039 with free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B001TOD3K0

It's the REGZA high-end tier LED/LCD HDTV's from Toshiba.... high quality stuff, check the reviews.
 
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If you can wait for them to get back in stock.... this is the best deal you will find for this size range of LED.


VIZIO XVT473SV 47-inch Class Full Array TruLED LCD HDTV 240 Hz SPS with VIZIO Internet Apps


amazon has it on sale for $1197 SHIPPED..... they don't take long to restock stuff typically

Temporarily out of stock. Order now and we'll deliver when available. We'll e-mail you with an estimated delivery date as soon as we have more information. Your credit card will not be charged until we ship the item.


That TV is insanely nice if you can wait and see when they will ship it to you, DEFINITELY WORTH the sale price... and its FULL ARRAY LED, not Edge. Full Array is much better. PLus it comes with the new fancy internet apps and stuff.
 
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hey luxor thanks for the links. definitely going to give the toshiba a closer look. 1039 shipped is a mighty fine deal!
 
K, did some price hounding since I am looking for someone else as well......



You might want to check this one out... it meets your requirements and beats your lowest price...

$1039 with free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B001TOD3K0

It's the REGZA high-end tier LED/LCD HDTV's from Toshiba.... high quality stuff, check the reviews.

Same TV for $895, gotta pay shipping though.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/605559-REG/Toshiba_46SV670U_46SV670U_46_1080p_REGZA.html
 
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Yeah, and the shipping makes it a lot more than the amazon link lol

$150 shipping + 900 TV = more than $1039

And plus, that's an odd site with a huge popup that says people can't order online on Saturdays? what kind of garbage is that?

Please note: Online ordering is unavailable until Saturday 5:45 PM EST (in 4 hour(s) and 31 minutes). Feel free to browse our site and add items to your cart or wishlist. We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patronage.
 
Just because its a petpeave of mine, and I HATE that they are marketed this way, there is no such thing (yet) as an "LED TV". The TV's marketed as such are LCD's with white LED backlighting on the edges. About the only thing they have going for them is marginally better power savings... meh.

Do some research on AVSForum's, you'll see that its all just marketing to get the uninformed to sped more.

Until we have full panel RGB backlighting, LED backlight TV's are useless IMO.
 
And plus, that's an odd site with a huge popup that says people can't order online on Saturdays? what kind of garbage is that?
:confused: B&H is a very reputable shop.

The owner and many of the employees are Satmar Hasidic Jews who, in keeping with their religious beliefs, close the store for the Sabbath. :rolleyes:
 
Just because its a petpeave of mine, and I HATE that they are marketed this way, there is no such thing (yet) as an "LED TV". The TV's marketed as such are LCD's with white LED backlighting on the edges. About the only thing they have going for them is marginally better power savings... meh.

Do some research on AVSForum's, you'll see that its all just marketing to get the uninformed to sped more.

Until we have full panel RGB backlighting, LED backlight TV's are useless IMO.

yeah, we know.
 
Until we have full panel RGB backlighting, LED backlight TV's are useless IMO.
Local area dimming on the sets with direct LED backlights (not edge lighting) is not a gimmick and is useful, but to your point, most of the "LED TV's" simply have LED edge lighting and it is basically worthless.
 
Just because its a petpeave of mine, and I HATE that they are marketed this way, there is no such thing (yet) as an "LED TV". The TV's marketed as such are LCD's with white LED backlighting on the edges. About the only thing they have going for them is marginally better power savings... meh.

Do some research on AVSForum's, you'll see that its all just marketing to get the uninformed to sped more.

Until we have full panel RGB backlighting, LED backlight TV's are useless IMO.



Thread crap.... -----^ and partially wrong.....

It's a petpeave of mine to reply to people like you that INSIST TO THREADCRAP, plus I don't think you people claiming this have actually seen an LED in person, but just regurgitate what the "experts" have told you online. Quit spamming what you READ on the internet forums, PLEASE. Sometimes its true, other times its bs. Get your information from the SOURCE, ALWAYS!

LEDs saves AT LEAST 25-40% monthly on power compared to similar non-LED HDTVs, they are MUCH THINNER (I walked up to a 55" LED and it was thinner than my fingernail....... can you do that with LCD? NO, you cannot. Please try... please.) and lastly the part where you say "backlighting on the edges" if only partially true to SOME of the EDGE-LIT LEDs. There are 4 types of LEDs out now, look it up buddy. The FULL ARRAY LEDs are much more recommended for quality, and power savings.

On top of it looking hella awesome, and I've seen a room with pretty much all the LEDs and all sizes. The LEDs stick out without a doubt.
 
Local area dimming on the sets with direct LED backlights (not edge lighting) is not a gimmick and is useful,

How many of those are actually out there? The crap thats pushed to consumers at best buy surely isn't.
 
:confused: B&H is a very reputable shop.

The owner and many of the employees are Satmar Hasidic Jews who, in keeping with their religious beliefs, close the store for the Sabbath. :rolleyes:

So what's the have to do with ordering online? The internet market is now a part of Jewish religion? ...... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Like I said before (even before knowing it was a jewish holiday today since it doesn't say that)... that's just odd. But yes, I have heard of their B&H a few times.. Just saying its odd they hold back orders on a holiday for themselves when they could easily take the orders today (via computer, not human) and ship them out Monday?

Get my drift, smarty?
 
Thread crap.... -----^ and partially wrong.....

It's a petpeave of mine to reply to people like you that I don't think have actually seen an LED in person, they just regurgitate what the "experts" have said online. Quit spamming what you heard on the internet, PLEASE.

LEDs saves AT LEAST 25-40% monthly on power compared to similar non-LED HDTVs, they are MUCH THINNER (I walked up to a 55" LED and it was thinner than my fingernail....... can you do that with LCD? NO, you cannot. Please try... please.) and lastly the part where you say "backlighting on the edges" if only partially true to SOME of the EDGE-LIT LEDs. There are 4 types of LEDs out now, look it up buddy. The FULL ARRAY LEDs are much more recommended for quality, and power savings.

On top of it looking hella awesome, and I've seen a room with pretty much all the LEDs and all sizes. The LEDs stick out without a doubt.
Speaking of wrong, we can include your post in that category.

There is no such thing as an LED TV (sold to consumers). There are LCD TVs with LED backlights (edge and direct). There are (were?) DLP sets with LED light engines. There are OLED TVs (rare, small, and expensive). There are front projectors with LED light engines. But, again no LED TVs.

The vast majority of LED backlit LCD TVs used edge lighting which doesn't offer much benefit over a conventional CCFL edge lit panel aside from power consumption. Very few LED backlit sets use a direct view backlight with local area dimming and the ones that do aren't thin like your fingernail. Regardless since I and pretty much everyone else sits and watches the image on the TV, and don't sit on the side and marvel about how thin it is, whether it's .5" thick or 3" thick doesn't make any difference.
 
So what's the have to do with ordering online? The internet market is now a part of Jewish religion? ...... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
They're honoring their religious beliefs. They can do whatever they want. It's their store.
Like I said before (even before knowing it was a jewish holiday today since it doesn't say that)... that's just odd. But yes, I have heard of their B&H a few times.. Just saying its odd they hold back orders on a holiday for themselves when they could easily take the orders today (via computer, not human) and ship them out Monday?

Get my drift, smarty?
You really are clueless. The Sabbath is a religious observance of a weekly day or rest. On that day of rest, which happens every week, you don't work. Hence the physical store being closed and the online store not accepting orders. :rolleyes:
 
Speaking of wrong, we can include your post in that category.

There is no such thing as an LED TV (sold to consumers). There are LCD TVs with LED backlights (edge and direct). There are (were?) DLP sets with LED light engines. There are OLED TVs (rare, small, and expensive). There are front projectors with LED light engines. But, again no LED TVs.

The vast majority of LED backlit LCD TVs used edge lighting which doesn't offer much benefit over a conventional CCFL edge lit panel aside from power consumption. Very few LED backlit sets use a direct view backlight with local area dimming and the ones that do aren't thin like your fingernail. Regardless since I and pretty much everyone else sits and watches the image on the TV, and don't sit on the side and marvel about how thin it is, whether it's .5" thick or 3" thick doesn't make any difference.

This.

I said this already but Luxor didn't seem to get it.
 
They're honoring their religious beliefs. They can do whatever they want. It's their store.
You really are clueless. The Sabbath is a religious observance of a weekly day or rest. On that day of rest, which happens every week, you don't work. Hence the physical store being closed and the online store not accepting orders. :rolleyes:

First off, you're being a total dick who thinks everyone should know everything you know.

I am not jewish, nor do I care about some unheard of practice they do. If you're jewish, sorry I don't follow your special rules. (I'm agnostic by the way, so I don't do religions and beliefs, just FACTS)

Lastly... you are the obvious clueless person here. I already said THEY DONT HAVE TO WORK, BUT THE COMPUTERS CAN STILL TAKE ORDERS.

Obviously, you did not get it, or even comprehend what I typed I guess?..... smarty.
 
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This.

I said this already but Luxor didn't seem to get it.

You guys are both obviously clueless.

I can point out so many wrong things.

DLP (were?) .... wow, they STILL sell DLP TVs for sure because they are A) Bigger than all other TVs (82") ... B) look better, if not the best. I watched a new Samsung LED DLP just yesterday too, so you're 100%, for sure, wrong again on that.

Besides these few links (from reputable sites mind you) will easily prove you guys wrong.

READ AND LEARN before acting smart ---->

http://www.samsung.com/us/article/lcd-led-or-plasma-

http://www.big-tv.co.uk/LED_explained.htm

Sit down and open your eyes......... LED TVs are not anything else besides LED TVs... that's why there are numerous sites with the TV subcategory "LED" and then an entire seperate subcategory of LCD. If you want a power hungry, thicker, cheaper TV, get a LCD. If you want newer tech with better/newer features... get a nice LED.

I mean cmon guys.... Just because my acura has a honda motor does not make it a honda. It's still a fucking Acura.... get my drift? Same concept here.....
 
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You guys are both obviously clueless.
Yeah, we're clueless like UK's Advertising Standards Authority.
DLP (were?) .... wow, they STILL sell DLP TVs for sure because they are A) Bigger than all other TVs (82") ... B) look better, if not the best. I watched a new Samsung LED DLP just yesterday too, so you're 100%, for sure, wrong again on that.
I'm not sure where you live, but in the US Samsung doesn't sell DLP (LED or UHP) anymore. They only sell LCD's and Plasmas. Mitsubishi is the only company still selling DLP sets. Some of them use lasers as the light source in the light engine, or as you would call them, Laser TV. But no LED DLP sets. Hence my "were?" comment.
Besides these few links (from reputable sites mind you) will easily prove you guys wrong.

READ AND LEARN before acting smart ---->

http://www.samsung.com/us/article/lcd-led-or-plasma-

http://www.big-tv.co.uk/LED_explained.htm

Sit down and open your eyes......... LED TVs are not anything else besides LED TVs... that's why there are numerous sites with the TV subcategory "LED" and then an entire seperate subcategory of LCD. If you want a power hungry, thicker, cheaper TV, get a LCD. If you want newer tech with better/newer features... get a nice LED.
Someone fell for the misleading advertising... :rolleyes:

Did you even read your own links? I'll make it obvious what you missed. From your first link:
Samsung LED Backlighting Technology delivers breakthrough picture quality in an ultra slim design. These TVs offer mega contrast ratios—the brightest white to the darkest black a TV is capable of producing— and advanced internet connectivity features that let you download apps to your TV. These are Samsung’s best TVs ever.

LED (light-emitting diode) screens are actually LCD screens that use LED lights behind the screen. This can be done in two ways—by using LEDs across the entire back of the display, or just around the perimeter of the display which is known as “edge-lit.” This second kind of display uses a diffusion panel to spread light across the entire screen.
Your second link is a real LED display (which isn't what Samsung or anyone else is selling). They're the sort of giant screens that are put in stadiums, or used for outdoor advertising / billboards. Which is exactly why I put the disclaimer in my post of, "sold to Consumers". They exist, but you're not buying one for your great room.

Further, I was designing, prototyping, & testing LED LCD backlights over 5 years ago long before any of the technology was commercialized and sold in anything bigger that a PDA / phone screen. I worked with both white & RGB LEDs, both direct view & edge lit. I think I might have some idea what I'm talking about, but feel free to believe what ever you want.
 
Yeah, we're clueless like UK's Advertising Standards Authority.

That's from 2009.... more than 1 year ago from today. Plus now, that article is talking about Edge-lite TV's and singles out the one company of Samsung for lying, not any others. FAIL #1

(PS: The article is false and states Samsung is lying and does not make a full array LED-- that is false as proven here where you can see one for sale with Full Array in the specs)


I'm not sure where you live, but in the US Samsung doesn't sell DLP (LED or UHP) anymore. They only sell LCD's and Plasmas. Mitsubishi is the only company still selling DLP sets. Some of them use lasers as the light source in the light engine, or as you would call them, Laser TV. But no LED DLP sets. Hence my "were?" comment.
Someone fell for the misleading advertising... :rolleyes:

Looks like you are proven wrong again since Samsung DLP LEDs (funny, the same one I saw the other day too!) is still for sale here as well as many more on other sites..... FAIL #2

Did you even read your own links? I'll make it obvious what you missed. From your first link:

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The thing you highlighted says exactly what I've been saying the entire time..... that they do infact have an LCD, but they are known widely as LED TV's, hence why your giant quote says (check the red part this time):

LED screens are actually LCD screens that use LED lights behind the screen.


Which is why I said this analogy in my 2nd or 3rd post trying to explain it easier:
Me said:
Just because my acura has a honda motor does not make it a honda. It's still a fucking Acura.... get my drift? Same concept here.....

or I'll do the replacing for you here: Just because my LED has a LCD motor does not make it a LCD. It's still a fucking LED.... get my drift? Same concept here.....

.....fail #3.

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...sigh, typical........ Avoid the topics last discussed, avoid all old quotes,then name call....

Are you guys republican by any chance? :D

My analogy still backs up all what I said and if you can't handle the truth, sorry.... there are people that backup their claims with facts (which I did obviously 3 times in my last post, with links for each quote you replied with)

Funny with your idiom because it applies right back to you: I lead you to the fucking water(links), you're the horse who doesn't want to drink it (the facts given to you in 100% debatable form). Too funny :D and I get called a fanboy for pointing out incorrect statements, dude? really? what do I really need to fanboy a certain tech, especially when I don't even have a damn LED or DLP right now! :D
 
or I'll do the replacing for you here: Just because my LED has a LCD motor does not make it a LCD. It's still a fucking LED.... get my drift? Same concept here.....

.....fail #3.

Just because my LCD has a LED backlight does not make it a LED. It's still a LCD.

Unless you're saying people are buying the TV for the backlighting and the pretty pictures are just how the backlighting is displayed.
 
Uhhh, wow.

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They aren't called "LCD" in stores are they guys? No, they have an LCD category and another category for displays using LED.... that's my entire point you guys don't get and keep trying to prove wrong for some reason. (impossible)

Do you guys have a mindblock for this fact, or what? How much more precise and laymen can I get? Or are you just being trolls and this a joke? :D

I, 100%, fully understand these are not made entirely out of LED. I never said it was, nobody said it was but you people pointing out that "most" LEDs are edge-lit (nobody cares anyways since the one that started this argument is full-array!)

and especially since I, or nobody else ever said once that it was all made out of LEDs.... please quit trying to claim that I am saying something similar.

My facts still stand unproven is all I have to say.....

You guys have to keep saying "most LEDs" -- but keep forgetting and ignoring the fact there ARE some LED w/ more than Edge-Lit LEDs........ and those few make me right since the facts I've said apply to those of course. (and the TVs last mentioned in this thread)
 
Thread crap.... -----^ and partially wrong.....

It's a petpeave of mine to reply to people like you that INSIST TO THREADCRAP, plus I don't think you people claiming this have actually seen an LED in person, but just regurgitate what the "experts" have told you online. Quit spamming what you READ on the internet forums, PLEASE. Sometimes its true, other times its bs. Get your information from the SOURCE, ALWAYS!.
Once again, just because it is a pet peeve does not make it a threadcrap, i'm not saying he's 100% correct but criccio stated his reasons for saying what he said, and is a respected member of this forum. Not to mention this is the discussion forum where facts like these can be discussed, appropriately. There are good edge-lit lcd's, some of us just feel that it is turning into just another marketing feature because it doesn't bring quality in and of itself. I'm referring to edge-lit only.

You also accuse others of regurgitating stuff from other forums but remember that, despite the knowledge you have, on the surface you come across as a fanboy yourself with a lot of stuff that comes across as marketing speak. Perception? Maybe, but to some people that is all that matters.

Opinions are like assholes, we all have them and we all have our reasons for them. No sense in bashing your head against a wall repeatedly when the wall will not budge. Counter-opinions are a part of this forum and a part of TV comparisons, may as well get used to it and not let it frustrate you because we are also forum residents and we are not going anywhere ;).

Make no mistake, we do respect and enjoy the home electronics deals and discussions you bring into this forum, all you have to do is brace yourself for the counter-opinions, or just ignore it entirely. In other words, keep them coming!
 
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Why don't you stick with the point of the thread and take your internet argument to pm?? Wait, my bad, I forgot how cool it is to argue on the internet. I'm sure everyone that has read your posts stopped and thought to themselves. "Gee these guys aren't douche's, they're smart!"
 
Im in the market for a 46 too, havent seen anything to make me buy right away. The best time to buy a TV is generaly that last week in DEC or the begining of year.

Offtopic

I just want to say Acuras are Hondas just the NA luxury brand. If you goto any other country you are driving a HONDA legend, TL, EL, etc.
 
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Once again, just because it is a pet peeve does not make it a threadcrap, i'm not saying he's 100% correct but criccio stated his reasons for saying what he said, and is a respected member of this forum. Not to mention this is the discussion forum where facts like these can be discussed, appropriately. There are good edge-lit lcd's, some of us just feel that it is turning into just another marketing feature because it doesn't bring quality in and of itself. I'm referring to edge-lit only.

You also accuse others of regurgitating stuff from other forums but remember that, despite the knowledge you have, on the surface you come across as a fanboy yourself with a lot of stuff that comes across as marketing speak. Perception? Maybe, but to some people that is all that matters.

Opinions are like assholes, we all have them and we all have our reasons for them. No sense in bashing your head against a wall repeatedly when the wall will not budge. Counter-opinions are a part of this forum and a part of TV comparisons, may as well get used to it and not let it frustrate you because we are also forum residents and we are not going anywhere .

Make no mistake, we do respect and enjoy the home electronics deals and discussions you bring into this forum, all you have to do is brace yourself for the counter-opinions, or just ignore it entirely. In other words, keep them coming!

I am not a fanboy for LED.... go look at the DLP thread, I stick up for whatever is right.

I am tired of people on here claiming good things are actually shit, that's all..... just so they can throw fire on a dry bush it seems. I have seen LEDs, and no... not all of them are nice but I can say that about any kind of TV. I have seen horrible plasmas, LCDs, all of em.

There are some KILLER DLP sets, there are some insanely killer LED(holy hell, I better say LCD with LED lighting!) sets.
 
I am not a fanboy for LED.... go look at the DLP thread, I stick up for whatever is right.

I am tired of people on here claiming good things are actually shit, that's all..... just so they can throw fire on a dry bush it seems. I have seen LEDs, and no... not all of them are nice but I can say that about any kind of TV. I have seen horrible plasmas, LCDs, all of em.

There are some KILLER DLP sets, there are some insanely killer LED(holy hell, I better say LCD with LED lighting!) sets.
I hear ya, it is annoying if people go to the extreme and say products are shit, especially when they are not, but these fellas listed their personal reasons which makes it acceptable in this forum. And yes every class of product has their good and bad makes/models. But an over the top defense of one's post, and "making it seem" like everyone else knows nothing, is rarely convincing and adds more fuel to the brush fire ;)

We call it LED LCD to avoid confusing the average joes, it takes some of the punch out of the marketing BS in regards to the edge-lit variety, which do not produce a better picture simply because the word "LED" was included. Sure there may be other benefits to edge-lit, such as reduced power usage and slimmer profiles etc, but sometimes we focus on the actual picture quality, which is were the venom comes from.

And remember i used the phrase "come across as a fanboy" and "perception", which gives you the benefit of the doubt ;)
 
Hey guys, check out my CCFLTV!

brother...

I've got one of them too. CCFLTV's rock! ;)

The joke would have been funny if people actually said CCFL TVs.... at least once, but no.

LED TV though....I think everyone has heard it at least 10 or 20 times this year in ads or websites.

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=webhp&q="CCFL+TV+FOR+SALE"
0 results for CCFL TV FOR SALE

http://www.google.com/search?q=CCFL+lcd!#sclient=psy&hl=en&q="LED+TV+FOR+SALE"
145,000 results for LED TV FOR SALE

Hardee-har-harrrrr Fail #4 for you big guy! ;)
 
LED TV though....I think everyone has heard it at least 10 or 20 times this year in ads or websites.

Dumb consumers believe Monster and Bose make the best stuff you can buy.. just because its peddled as such in mainstream media doesn't make it true.

And it really doesn't make it "OK" to just accept it in more "informed" circles such as [H]. We try to inform people past what they can read in consumer reports.

Your logic is not sound.

Wikipedia said:
LED display
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This article is about Light-emitting diode (LED) based displays. For LED-backlighted televisions, see LED-backlit LCD television.
 
The joke would have been funny if people actually said CCFL TVs.... at least once, but no.

LED TV though....I think everyone has heard it at least 10 or 20 times this year in ads or websites.

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=webhp&q="CCFL+TV+FOR+SALE"
0 results for CCFL TV FOR SALE

http://www.google.com/search?q=CCFL+lcd!#sclient=psy&hl=en&q="LED+TV+FOR+SALE"
145,000 results for LED TV FOR SALE
A triumph of marketing, naming a TV after one of it's features, even if it's a watered down feature (edge-lit) which allows companies/manufacturers to charge more for the product. They're entitled to do it, but we're entitled to refute some of their claims.

That's similar to naming a TV "HDMI" because it has an hdmi input, or naming a TV "AG" because it has an anti-glare coating. After all, these are two very important features for many people, but it would be a blunder of marketing to name it this way because the rest of us would see right through it.

And echoing criccio's remark, this is a technology forum where we lift the veil of misleading marketing speak, not perpetuate it, calling a spade a spade.

And maybe it went over your head, but he mentioned "CCFLTV" to highlight what he felt was the ridiculousness of naming a TV after it's backlight, not much failure in that because it is just an opinion ;)
 
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Dumb consumers believe Monster and Bose make the best stuff you can buy.. just because its peddled as such in mainstream media doesn't make it true.

And it really doesn't make it "OK" to just accept it in more "informed" circles such as [H]. We try to inform people past what they can read in consumer reports.

Your logic is not sound.

I am still sticking by what I am trying to prove....

you on the other hand started this entire debate on technical details with this huge incorrect first comment!

I believe everything I said above still holds water, while you have changed your story and did a slight play on words to try and avoid sounding like the person who was wrong.

w/e this is just annnoying now.......... the fun has died.
[B][U]criccio ((VERY FIRST COMMENT HERE))[/U][/B] said:

Just because its a petpeave of mine, and I HATE that they are marketed this way, there is no such thing (yet) as an "LED TV". The TV's marketed as such are LCD's with white LED backlighting on the edges. About the only thing they have going for them is marginally better power savings... meh.

Do some research on AVSForum's, you'll see that its all just marketing to get the uninformed to sped more.

Until we have full panel RGB backlighting, LED backlight TV's are useless IMO.

4 wrongs highlighted there in one quote.... that's what this entire debate was about, go back and look for yourself if I'm full of bs

My point still stands..... people call them LED TVs.... and if you're shopping for one you should already know why you want an LED anyways
 
My point still stands..... people call them LED TVs.... and if you're shopping for one you should already know why you want an LED anyways
Yeah, because advertising works quite well on the weak minded and ignorant and they gotta have the latest and greatest. :p
 
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