Dell U2410

jesteroony said:
Is there anyone having a positive experience with the u2410?
It's not a perfect technology and i'm a normal everyday user, love a bit of gaming and a nice desktop background, so unlike some i'm not expecting perfection but a damn good monitor all the same..
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Other than having the green/pink tint issue, I'm loving the monitor for gaming. So far I've played BC2, Fallout 3 and WoW, with great results. I didn't notice any ghosting and the colors seemed spot on.

My 2nd is arriving today, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed everything is good. I must say though that Dell's customer support has been great. I've spent a ton of time on the phone with the, but they do seem very eager to resolve any issues.
 
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jesteroony said:
Is there anyone having a positive experience with the u2410?
It's not a perfect technology and i'm a normal everyday user, love a bit of gaming and a nice desktop background, so unlike some i'm not expecting perfection but a damn good monitor all the same..
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I just received two Dell U2410 IPS monitors (two weeks ago), for my office and they are both crisp, no dead pixels, no tint problems. There is some backlight bleed as expected, but I'm rarely looking at dark screens. I'm also glad to have 16:10 1920x1200 aspect ratio which is getting harder to find.

The pixel resolution is perfect in my opinion. My previous Dell 2007wfb IPS native resolution was too tight, forcing me to pull the monitor closer. Now I can keep the U2410 at arms length which is more comfortable.

So, for the record, a positive review. Also for the record... complaints generally come from a vocal minority where you see 1 complaint for every 10-20+ happy customers. And thats from my real experience with real customers. Reading two dozen complaints does not scare me from a product that has five hundred purchases. What it does give me is an idea of the potential problems I can look out for, which gives me a better position to qualify and compare products and manufacturers - in fact I would be a little concerned if a product had zero complaints, as someone always finds something to complain about.
 
jonneymendoza said:
what vacation? the hell your talking about? you realy think i will get banned for expressing an OPINION. try again mate.

Your logic is flawed. how do you know tens of thousands have perfectly fine monitors? how come most products dont have such high failure rates then this monitor?

Go and have a look on the nvidia forums for example and tell me how many people are on their 2nd or 3rd 480gtx . hardly any. why? because its pretty reliable. not many have issues with it.

like i said, xbox 360 is a prime example of a product that has a high failure rate where 9/10 game forums all have people saying their 360 died on them.

Same goes for this monitor. it has a pretty high failure rate seeing as many people have rma'd it. This thread alone is is fileld with many saying how their on their 2nd and 3rd monitor. this thread should be renamed has "Dell U2410 RMA thread"

edit: if its wrong to express opinions in this forum then yea ok ban me. i will just visit a better tech forum that ALLOWS people to express their opinions whether its a positive or negetive one.
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No you can't get banned for an opinion you can get banned for trolling which is exactly what you've been doing.

Your entire basis of this argument is perpetrated on the premise that there is some "huge" failure rate on these monitors and that it effects everyone involved who bought it.

You can take ANY piece of computing hardware and pull bullshit RMA figures out of it. I'm sure thousands of people have video cards that fail every cycle due to all kinds of reasons yet you don't run around claiming " Well its a massive failure and avoid at all costs" because there 10's of thousands that run there hardware from day 1 without issue.

This monitor has no "high" failure rate , if anything its average at the MOST. You point to a few forums and claim without any real data that this monitor must be a total failure , every thread about IPS monitors I've seen you in you claim this monitor is a "failure" again. I don't know if Dell burned you in the past or whatever but like it or not people in this thread are quite pleased with what they have.

There isn't anything wrong with expressing your opinion here but trolling in the official thread just to troll and not being an actual owner is crossing the line.
 
Have any of you that have this monitor done much gaming on it? I am looking to pick on up to replace one of my 10 samsung monitors. If not are there any other good choices in the 1920x1200 resolution? I am mostly looking to game on it and some programming.
 
Godmachine said:
No you can't get banned for an opinion you can get banned for trolling which is exactly what you've been doing.

Your entire basis of this argument is perpetrated on the premise that there is some "huge" failure rate on these monitors and that it effects everyone involved who bought it.

You can take ANY piece of computing hardware and pull bullshit RMA figures out of it. I'm sure thousands of people have video cards that fail every cycle due to all kinds of reasons yet you don't run around claiming " Well its a massive failure and avoid at all costs" because there 10's of thousands that run there hardware from day 1 without issue.

This monitor has no "high" failure rate , if anything its average at the MOST. You point to a few forums and claim without any real data that this monitor must be a total failure , every thread about IPS monitors I've seen you in you claim this monitor is a "failure" again. I don't know if Dell burned you in the past or whatever but like it or not people in this thread are quite pleased with what they have.

There isn't anything wrong with expressing your opinion here but trolling in the official thread just to troll and not being an actual owner is crossing the line.
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Define the word trolling and also please tell me where in post have i said it effects EVERYONE who bought this monitor.

Sounds like the one close to a ban or a warning is you putting words into my mouth causing uneccesary conflicts with other members of this forum.


Dell has never burned me in the past. infact i use a fucking dell IPS monitor :rolleyes: But unlike you, im not a fanboy and i tell it has i see it and how i see it is that this monitor appears to have a high failure rate.
 
verbel said:
Have any of you that have this monitor done much gaming on it? I am looking to pick on up to replace one of my 10 samsung monitors. If not are there any other good choices in the 1920x1200 resolution? I am mostly looking to game on it and some programming.
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i would also like to know this answer as i want to upgrade my ips monitor from a 22inch to at least a 24
 
Update:

Houston, we've got uniformity!

My second U2410 arrived today at my office. I speed home after work and hooked this bad boy up. It's absolutely perfect. No tinting issues at all, it looks fabulous.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Define the word trolling and also please tell me where in post have i said it effects EVERYONE who bought this monitor.

Sounds like the one close to a ban or a warning is you putting words into my mouth causing uneccesary conflicts with other members of this forum.


Dell has never burned me in the past. infact i use a fucking dell IPS monitor :rolleyes: But unlike you, im not a fanboy and i tell it has i see it and how i see it is that this monitor appears to have a high failure rate.
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I can see further discussion with you is just pointless. Again you're way off on your figure of "high" failure rate but you've convinced yourself otherwise.

There is more than enough proof in your post history that you've stated in more than a few threads that you can't stand the majority of the 24 inch ips panels. Yet you're sitting in this thread bashing this one.

Even putting that aside the most you've contributed to this thread is "This monitor is rubbish".

I'm done talking to you on this topic.
 
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Also are there any holiday deals on this monitor yet? They had one last year for like $379 , I would love to get it at that price.
 
If you sign up for small biz updates on a new email account they may send out a 20% off coupon which will work on U2410 if you need it badly right now.
 
I just got my U2410 on Friday and I am pretty happy thus far. Pardon the nooby question since I am sure it's been covered numerous times but I've read I would say 20 pages of this thread and couldn't find a definite answer. I am curious as to how I should go about inspecting my monitor to make sure it's a good copy. Is there a link or sticky I should be looking at?

From what I've been reading, I should check for dead pixels, panel uniformity, and backlight bleeding. Is there anything else to add?

I have DPT which allowed me to change the screen color so I set it on white and I am not seeing any noticeable dead pixels. With the white background, I am not seeing any tinting when I move side to side. What about backlight bleeding? How would I test that?

Normally I wouldn't be so anal about a monitor but I am getting a bit more serious about my color accuracy in my photography and graphic work so any help would surely be appreciated.
 
Hollowgraphic said:
What about backlight bleeding? How would I test that?
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To test for back light bleed, take a completely black image and make it so that it covers the entire screen, then turn off all the lights in your room and look for any bleed on your monitor.

You can also try this Eizo test: http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/testsoftware/eizo-monitor-test.html which runs through a few standard monitor tests. One of the tests makes your monitor black so you can test for bleed on it too (click the ( i ) near the bottom left to remove the info panel).
 
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verbel said:
Have any of you that have this monitor done much gaming on it? I am looking to pick on up to replace one of my 10 samsung monitors. If not are there any other good choices in the 1920x1200 resolution? I am mostly looking to game on it and some programming.
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Been gaming quite a bit on mine (Bad Company 2 and StarCraft 2), no complaints what so ever thus far.
 
Been gaming on mine for a while now , use gaming mode under the preset (unless you must have more control) as it does make a nice impact on input latency. It looks great for everything I've thrown at it (BFBC2 , SC2 , MW2).
 
Hi, has anyone got this monitor hooked up on a ps3? if so, how well does it look? part of the reason why i am interested in this or a similar monitor is that it has 1080p or higher native res and hdmi input as well.
 
Hi,

Can anyone who have rev. A02 (or also A01) to access service menu and take a picture so I can compare the calibration values ?

Also there I see that is written Innolux service menu, and Innolux seems to be a division of Chimei.

Thanks
 
Hey guys about to order one of these and would like to know what is the best way to check for uniformness when i get it? Load up a white page and looks for different colors? After eveything is said and done for a normal computer use with gaming and movies, Is this a good monitor for the money?
 
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hellosky said:
If you sign up for small biz updates on a new email account they may send out a 20% off coupon which will work on U2410 if you need it badly right now.
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Is this still going on? If so where do I sign up for this?
 
That's surprising, when I tested it last week it applied the discount to U2410. I went with 2209WA actually so it didn't matter for me...
 
bearbear said:
To test for back light bleed, take a completely black image and make it so that it covers the entire screen, then turn off all the lights in your room and look for any bleed on your monitor.

You can also try this Eizo test: http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/testsoftware/eizo-monitor-test.html which runs through a few standard monitor tests. One of the tests makes your monitor black so you can test for bleed on it too (click the ( i ) near the bottom left to remove the info panel).
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Thanks a lot for that. I appreciate it!
 
Urbi said:
It works flawlessly.

I found this on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOBxT54nR2c
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THANKS!!

really considering buying this monitor now.

i never doubted this monitors performance. just the reliability is the concern i have at the moment/

i hear mentions of A02 version of this monitor? that the latest one that fixes the tinting issues? will ALL brand new monitors be A02 versions?
 
Hi,

I just bought a U2410, but I have one little problem...

I will only be using this monitor for basic computer stuff, no important or professional image editing, so I don't really need a wide gamut. So based on what I've read so far, I should be using the monitor in sRGB mode. The problem is in sRGB mode, everything seems to have a blue tinge. Also, colors seem washed out.

In Adobe RGB mode, I don't notice these problems. If I open up a Word 2007 document and switch back and forth between sRGB and Adobe RGB, I can see the blue background become more vivid in Adobe RGB, as well as see more of a contrast between the white page and the background.

Adobe RGB looks much closer to what I think is normal, which is weird considering my last monitor was a Dell 2005FPW which directly specified it was sRGB in its settings panel. This happens both with my PC over DVI, and my MacBook over VGA.

I tried restoring the default factory settings, but that didn't help. Not sure what other options I have...

Is this normal, or is it a problem with the monitor? I thought that sRGB mode should allow me to not use any color management profiles and have this display act as a "normal" screen. If something's wrong with this monitor, I'd like to get a replacement asap.

Thanks.

EDIT: Another thing I find weird is although everything has a blue tinge in sRGB, even blues look more vivid in Adobe sRGB.
 
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RobotBanana said:
So based on what I've read so far, I should be using the monitor in sRGB mode.
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That's the theory, since almost all content is produced for sRGB screens. However the reality is that you should use the mode your own eyes like the best, not the mode someone tells you is best. If you prefer Adobe, use Adobe mode. I usually prefer it to sRGB myself because, as you say, sRGB mode tends to leave the colours a little washed out looking.

The problem is in sRGB mode, everything seems to have a blue tinge. Also, colors seem washed out. In Adobe RGB mode, I don't notice these problems. If I open up a Word 2007 document and switch back and forth between sRGB and Adobe RGB, I can see the blue background become more vivid in Adobe RGB, as well as see more of a contrast between the white page and the background. Adobe RGB looks much closer to what I think is normal, which is weird considering my last monitor was a Dell 2005FPW which directly specified it was sRGB in its settings panel. This happens both with my PC over DVI, and my MacBook over VGA.
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Just because Dell calibrate the monitor doesn't mean to say they'll always make a good job of that at the factory. It's quite possible that the calibration has been poorly performed under your screens sRGB mode. Unfortunately, until Dell allow 3rd parties to access the LUT data for calibration purposes, there's no way to properly correct this yourself, and so you'd be left requesting an exchange (which I wouldn't do if you are happy with the screen in all its other modes). You can, however, enter the U2410's hidden factory menu mode and adjust the main RGB values for sRGB mode there. It's not as ideal as being able to calibrate that mode yourself, but it should provide a usable fix for now. Remember to take a note of any settings before changing them there, because the changes are permanent and cannot be reset.

I tried restoring the default factory settings, but that didn't help. Not sure what other options I have...
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The factory reset will only restore the adjustments you made via the ordinary menus, and won't touch the adjustments made at the factory. To do that you have to enter the hidden Factory Menu test mode. Changes in that mode will survive any resets.

See here for how to activate Factory Menu mode. Note that it is very tricky to activate the mode due to the U2410's buttons, and (unless you're lucky) it may well take you many (many) attempts
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1034712089&postcount=801
 
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PatK said:
That's the theory, since almost all content is produced for sRGB screens. However the reality is that you should use the mode your own eyes like the best, not the mode someone tells you is best. If you prefer Adobe, use Adobe mode. I usually prefer it to sRGB myself because, as you say, sRGB mode tends to leave the colours a little washed out looking.


Just because Dell calibrate the monitor doesn't mean to say they'll always make a good job of that at the factory. It's quite possible that the calibration has been poorly performed under your screens sRGB mode. Unfortunately, until Dell allow 3rd parties to access the LUT data for calibration purposes, there's no way to properly correct this yourself, and so you'd be left requesting an exchange (which I wouldn't do if you are happy with the screen in all its other modes). You can, however, enter the U2410's hidden factory menu mode and adjust the main RGB values for sRGB mode there. It's not as ideal as being able to calibrate that mode yourself, but it should provide a usable fix for now. Remember to take a note of any settings before changing them there, because the changes are permanent and cannot be reset.

The factory reset will only restore the adjustments you made via the ordinary menus, and won't touch the adjustments made at the factory. To do that you have to enter the hidden Factory Menu test mode. Changes in that mode will survive any resets.

See here for how to activate Factory Menu mode. Note that it is very tricky to activate the mode due to the U2410's buttons, and (unless you're lucky) it may well take you many (many) attempts
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1034712089&postcount=801
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Since I'm one of those ridiculously picky people, I'll take a gamble and request a replacement. Even under Standard mode while using Dell's color profile file, things are really blue. Adobe RGB seems to be the only mode in which things look fairly normal (i.e. not blue). So if it is only a calibration issue and nothing deeper, it's a royally messed up calibration all around. If it turns out to have the same problem, I'll send it back and keep the one I have now since I haven't noticed any other problems with it. Maybe then I'll try playing around with the factory settings.

Thanks for the advice.
 
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RobotBanana said:
Since I'm one of those ridiculously picky people, I'll take a gamble and request a replacement. Even under Standard mode while using Dell's color profile file, things are really blue. Adobe RGB seems to be the only mode in which things look fairly normal (i.e. not blue). So if it is only a calibration issue and nothing deeper, it's a royally messed up calibration all around. If it turns out to have the same problem, I'll send it back and keep the one I have now since I haven't noticed any other problems with it. Maybe then I'll try playing around with the factory settings.
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You can also adjust Standard Mode from the Factory Menu. If the problem exists in other modes then it starts to sound more like a tint issue, but tint would likely be visible in Adobe mode too. Tint issues are pretty correctable if they affect the whole screen in a uniform way (IE the whole screen looks blue and not just a certain section of it). How does the screen look in Custom Mode? If it's blue, does the problem go away when you turn down the blue gain value in the Custom Mode settings? If it does that's a good sign that you can fix things by yourself. If it doesn't look blue at all then that's an even better indication, because that means the problem probably isn't tint issues, but rather that the colour temperature for certain modes has been set incorrectly at the factory. No harm in asking for an exchange. It's just, from experience, if it's fixable by yourself (which it sounds like it might be a possibility in this case) then you're better off trying to go that path first, before you subject yourself to the Dell panel lottery process.

Good luck :)
 
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