Wicked Lasers Spyder III Arctic 1W Blue Laser *screaming*

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Spyder III Pro Arctic Series $197.97
probably the cheapest 1watt blue laser ever.

BURNS FLESH...need we say more!

** as some of us don't seem to understand **

THIS IS NOT A TOY FOR CHILDREN
POINTING ANY LASER AT PEOPLE OR ANYTHING CONTAINING PEOPLE IS A FELONY CRIME, THIS MEANS PRISON. JAIL CELL...
THIS IS A TOY FOR RESPONSIBLE ADULTS, its a freaken laser for god sakes. Your own personal lightsaber...
There is no UTILITARIAN use for this item.
This is meant for RESPONSIBLE, INTELLIGENT, WELL-MEANING adults.
 
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the only reason anyone would buy this is to harm others, and it's guaranteed someone somewhere will get blinded by it.. you should need a license to buy these things, like you do for firearms..
 
the only reason anyone would buy this is to harm others, and it's guaranteed someone somewhere will get blinded by it.. you should need a license to buy these things, like you do for firearms..
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Last thing we need is more governmental regulations. One of these days you are going to need a permit too buy toenail clippers.
 
License? No. More bullshit bureacracy and wasted tax money.

However, just as if with everything else, if someone hurts another person with this they should be punished to the full extent.

The geek in me loves it but I know I wouldn't have a use for it.
 
Techx said:
the only reason anyone would buy this is to harm others, and it's guaranteed someone somewhere will get blinded by it.. you should need a license to buy these things, like you do for firearms..
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We have a thread discussing this already. Multiple threads discussing the same thing is too complicated.
 
JayteeBates said:
Last thing we need is more governmental regulations. One of these days you are going to need a permit too buy toenail clippers.
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Say that to a friend of mine who was almost blinded by a laser prank. Yes there are some dumbass sick people out there.
 
Techx said:
the only reason anyone would buy this is to harm others, and it's guaranteed someone somewhere will get blinded by it.. you should need a license to buy these things, like you do for firearms..
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The only reason someone would buy a 2 Terabyte drive is to store illegally downloaded software.

The only reason someone would buy a knife is to cut someone.

Come on man...
 
Blazemore said:
Say that to a friend of mine who was almost blinded by a laser prank. Yes there are some dumbass sick people out there.
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That doesn't mean that it's ok to use moronic generalizations.

I'd like to buy this, but don't know if I'd ever have the courage to use it. Maybe if I was out in the middle some wasteland in New Mexico. It'd be a neat curio if nothing else, and might come in handy for some engineering projects.
 
When just looking at the dot it creates on a white wall can instantly and permanently blind someone, it's apparent these shouldn't be available to the general public.
 
Blazemore said:
Say that to a friend of mine who was almost blinded by a laser prank. Yes there are some dumbass sick people out there.
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Tell that to my friend who was almost blinded by a fork prank. You should need a license to by those things!
 
Come on...

Are you telling me you think you're retarded neighbor down the street who thinks wrestling is real and that kicking his unsuspecting friends in the nuts is funny as hell, should be able to buy one of these without at least some checks?

Comparing an eating utensil to a weapon that could be deadly at range (e.g. shining one at a plane or cars on a freeway) is pretty stupid.

We license gun owners.
We license motorists.

If some jackass can spend $200 and blind people a mile away, disrupt air traffic, and burn flesh then it should probably be at least monitored.

No one is saying you need to license forks. Or bread. We are saying that dangerous objects like these should be monitored or maybe even require a license. It's not a slippery slope. We didn't license bread after we required licenses for cars or guns. We won't "slip" to licensing your underwear once these require licenses.
 
We don't license gun owners. In my state, and I believe the vast majority of states, all you need is a background check and possibly a waiting period. So you can be a moron or the neighbor you are referencing, and so long as you don't have a criminal record you can legally buy a gun. You may have no idea how to use the thing or which end to point forward, but you can buy it and the ammo to go with it.
 
government regulation debate aside, what IS the purpose of this thing?
 
I had a blue laser before, custom built I think it was about a 1/2 watt if I remember.

It could indeed burn flesh (I removed a small wart on a finger with it). The beam did not focus like a green laser though, so the spot would expand at any great distance and would need to be refocused for any given distance. You could easily see the beam from the laser though. I only paid like $80.
 
Techx said:
the only reason anyone would buy this is to harm others, and it's guaranteed someone somewhere will get blinded by it.. you should need a license to buy these things, like you do for firearms..
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In America you dont need a license to buy a firearm, anywhere you do is not America. USSA maybe but not America...
 
itanium said:
In America you dont need a license to buy a firearm, anywhere you do is not America. USSA maybe but not America...
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You sorta do in California, you need to pass the Handgun Safety Certification. Technically its not a license but its kind of the same thing.
 
Syco said:
We don't license gun owners. In my state, and I believe the vast majority of states, all you need is a background check and possibly a waiting period. So you can be a moron or the neighbor you are referencing, and so long as you don't have a criminal record you can legally buy a gun. You may have no idea how to use the thing or which end to point forward, but you can buy it and the ammo to go with it.
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You are correct, only states that have high crime rates have restrictive gun laws. (because the sheep think the laws keep them safe, When in reality all it does is keep the criminals safe).
 
Justintoxicated said:
You sorta do in California, you need to pass the Handgun Safety Certification. Technically its not a license but its kind of the same thing.
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Thus the USSA title... :D

I hate locking my gun up to go to california. When i go there from AZ i stop at exit 1, its funny to look over at california and think that if i where to drive only 1 mile further I would be a criminal.
 
Syco said:
We don't license gun owners. In my state, and I believe the vast majority of states, all you need is a background check and possibly a waiting period. So you can be a moron or the neighbor you are referencing, and so long as you don't have a criminal record you can legally buy a gun. You may have no idea how to use the thing or which end to point forward, but you can buy it and the ammo to go with it.
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Background checks ftw!

Lasers may become the new preferred torture mechanism for the good ole US of A! :eek:
 
WasntMe said:
Come on...

Are you telling me you think you're retarded neighbor down the street who thinks wrestling is real and that kicking his unsuspecting friends in the nuts is funny as hell, should be able to buy one of these without at least some checks?

Comparing an eating utensil to a weapon that could be deadly at range (e.g. shining one at a plane or cars on a freeway) is pretty stupid.

We license gun owners.
We license motorists.

If some jackass can spend $200 and blind people a mile away, disrupt air traffic, and burn flesh then it should probably be at least monitored.

No one is saying you need to license forks. Or bread. We are saying that dangerous objects like these should be monitored or maybe even require a license. It's not a slippery slope. We didn't license bread after we required licenses for cars or guns. We won't "slip" to licensing your underwear once these require licenses.
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So we should register Chain Saws and other power tools as well, because someone might think its funny to chainsaw someone in the nuts, or hit someone in the head with a crowbar, or stab someone with a kitchen knife, light a building on fire with a welding torch, where does it end?


WasntMe said:
And VA and MD.

Didn't the DC hand gun law get struck down?
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You can't even get one in most countys in CA, unless you own a jewelry store or drive an armored truck etc.
 
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Someone had to do it.
 
The problem with this argument is that a hard drive and knife have real purposes.

What is the purpose of this thing other than to hurt people and burn things? Do you need to point at something in another room 30 miles away?
 
Valkhorn said:
The problem with this argument is that a hard drive and knife have real purposes.

What is the purpose of this thing other than to hurt people and burn things? Do you need to point at something in another room 30 miles away?
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What is the purpose of your video card? Do you really need to play games when you could do just fine on integrated?

What is the purpose of collectible samuri swords?

What is the purpose of baseball cards?

There are perfectly legitimate reasons for having a laser like this (certain experiments need it, for one). I don't need one and thus won't get one, but just because you don't understand or see the purpose for something, it doesn't give anyone the right to prevent others from owning one. Even if you say "well, 99% of the people in the country don't need one" that's still no grounds for banning them - who gave you the ability to trample minority rights? If you want to play that way, I'm sure there are tons of niche and not-so-niche things that other majority factions could take away from you. And God, how you'd bitch then.
 
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there has been lots of arguing over permits/licenses/guns/etc, but not ONE person has mentioned a non-criminal legitimate use for this item. I'm willing to allow dangerous items in our society if they also serve some sort of service, but what does this thing do in that regard?

My MAIN problem with something like this is that while it is as dangerous as a gun, it is in the form of an item that every other 13 year old plays with as a toy. I grew up in WI around guns, and 99.9% of gun owners were taught responsible gun ownership from someone. I have yet to see anyone ever "play around" with a gun. Most dad's teach their kids how to handle a gun and how to use one responsibly so that no one is hurt. This laser, however, presents a new danger. If it can blind someone from just looking at the dot on a wall, the user, even if he is very responsible (a BIG if), can't control the damage the laser wields. To me, that feels like something that should have some sort of restriction.
 
Justintoxicated said:
So we should register Chain Saws and other power tools as well, because someone might think its funny to chainsaw someone in the nuts, or hit someone in the head with a crowbar, or stab someone with a kitchen knife, light a building on fire with a welding torch, where does it end?
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When this happens...

ryken said:
there has been lots of arguing over permits/licenses/guns/etc, but not ONE person has mentioned a non-criminal legitimate use for this item. I'm willing to allow dangerous items in our society if they also serve some sort of service, but what does this thing do in that regard?
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This has no function. It is not a laser pointer. It could be used all too easily to blind innocent people. Just think... you're at a gas station, someone yells "Hey, check this out!!"

You look over... bam. You're blind. You'll start screaming, and the person who did it will get away without a problem.

Starting to see a problem yet?
 
RooK said:
When this happens...



This has no function. It is not a laser pointer. It could be used all too easily to blind innocent people. Just think... you're at a gas station, someone yells "Hey, check this out!!"

You look over... bam. You're blind. You'll start screaming, and the person who did it will get away without a problem.

Starting to see a problem yet?
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Yes. Clearly the only solution is to blind the other guy first with an even more powerful laser. That's what you're getting at, right?
 
How powerful of a laser would I need to start a campfire by pointing at it for 5-10 seconds?
 
Jmacker for that i'd recommend the torch on wicked lasers site, its a flashlight that is so hot it starts fires.
laser won't do that.

as far as the "utility"
there is almost none, this is a toy for poeple that know how to behave.
If you don't, this isn't for you. MOVE ON.

mind you shining a high power laser on cars buildings people, anything containing people, planes construction equipment etc
IS A FELONY......FELONY......this goes for 10w greenies as well as 1watt blues...
 
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Valkhorn said:
The problem with this argument is that a hard drive and knife have real purposes.

What is the purpose of this thing other than to hurt people and burn things? Do you need to point at something in another room 30 miles away?
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To give us an opportunity to explore a fascinating area of our physical world that stimulates our desire to understand and explore it. Humans get the highest degree of satisfaction and learning from hands on experiences. That is why we prefer to do things in person rather than being content with with watching others do them.

In other words, because it's cool. And if that's not a good reason to do something (responsibly) than your life is futile and meaningless.
 
Valkhorn said:
The problem with this argument is that a hard drive and knife have real purposes.

What is the purpose of this thing other than to hurt people and burn things? Do you need to point at something in another room 30 miles away?
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Thats whats awesome about living in America, you dont need a reason to own what ever you want. ;)
 
there has been lots of arguing over permits/licenses/guns/etc, but not ONE person has mentioned a non-criminal legitimate use for this item. I'm willing to allow dangerous items in our society if they also serve some sort of service, but what does this thing do in that regard?

My MAIN problem with something like this is that while it is as dangerous as a gun, it is in the form of an item that every other 13 year old plays with as a toy. I grew up in WI around guns, and 99.9% of gun owners were taught responsible gun ownership from someone. I have yet to see anyone ever "play around" with a gun. Most dad's teach their kids how to handle a gun and how to use one responsibly so that no one is hurt. This laser, however, presents a new danger. If it can blind someone from just looking at the dot on a wall, the user, even if he is very responsible (a BIG if), can't control the damage the laser wields. To me, that feels like something that should have some sort of restriction.
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Actually, guns are quite a bit safer than this laser, also, the legal limit is 5mw for handheld lasers in the US. (with exceptions)
 
the spyder III series meets FDA regulations.
activation key and lock etc
 
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