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DRAM prices about to dive...

Ever heard of price fixing? Sure they can get in trouble for it and maybe fined but they make more money than the fine will ever be.
 
the top 10 memory chip manufacturers were just fined a whole boat load of money for doing just that in the late 90s / early 2000's. i dont think any of them are in a hurry to get into price fixing again any time soon.
 
Yeah but if they price fix now, with the same time frame, it would be 2040 before they get fined for doing it again. I can see some older, upper management ready to retire saying "feck it, I'll be retired or dead by then"
 
I was hoping the recent EU ruling would force prices down a bit while they try to get the government off their backs.
 
I see three things happening:
1. European demand is slowing down
2. OEMs are resisting further price increases
3. DRAM players will start playing catch-up to Samsung, who announced a record 18 trillion won ($15.6 billion) investment plan on Monday.

They are all bringing investment in capacity forward, because of their misguided idea that somehow demand is going to be great (you see we have a great economy)!
 
One more thing, according toKim Min-chul, Hynix’s chief financial officer, memory chips now account for around 10 percent of computer costs. So there's substantial push-back from OEMs on prices.
 
I'd love to see DDR3 drop to the levels it was about a year or so ago.
 
I'd like to see DDR3 prices drop. This would be my catalyst for a new build.
 
I'd like to see DDR3 prices drop. This would be be my catalyst to do a new build.
 
I remember buying 4GB SODIMM or DDR2 800 kits for as low a $15AR when the prices dipped to the lowest about a little over a year to 1.5 years ago (12/2008 - 3/2009). I had around 44GB of DDR2-800 installed in different systems, with all the desktops getting 8GB each. Now I've mostly gotten rid of DDR2 and have mostly DDR3 systems (26GB DDR3 memory, 5GB DDR2).
 
Last summer I could have bought 2x2GB DDR2 667 SODIMMs for a laptop for $48 at Fry's, and that came with a $20 MIR on top of that, final cost about $30 with the tax (here in my state).

Right now, that same RAM is (right now this moment) $99.99, but it has a $35 MIR so about $67-68 final cost. Only issue is I need that RAM (ok, I guess I want it more than I actually need it) and I haven't got anywhere near the $110 cost with tax...

So hell yeah, let's see some massive price drops, I'm sick of having just 1GB of RAM in this laptop I have now. :D

pxc:

You wouldn't happen to have 2x2GB of those SODIMMs layin' around anymore would ya? :p
 
god i hope prices drop... i bought my 6gb kit of corsair ddr3 for $89 when the core i7 series first came out and now it retails for $200, thats ridiculous.

i want to buy a 2gb stick of ddr2 sodimm but $50 is just too much.
 
vertigomhs said:
god i hope prices drop... i bought my 6gb kit of corsair ddr3 for $89 when the core i7 series first came out and now it retails for $200, thats ridiculous.

i want to buy a 2gb stick of ddr2 sodimm but $50 is just too much.
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Pricing sucks, but not as bad as DDR2 when C2D dropped. I remember paying 300 dollars for the lowest binned set of D9 that gskill sold :eek::eek:
 
I have noticed it drop slightly (almost 20%) in the last few months.

I hope I really does fall since I'm buying 32-48gb of ddr3 in the coming months.
 
Isn't the same manufacturing process or some components also used for SSDs? If so that could keep prices up.
 
DDR2 RAM got stupid expensive. They seemed to change the price of DDR2 to be the same as DDR3, rather than DDR3 coming down in price as more folks used it.
 
4/30/2009
1ea
OCZ Platinum Edition 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Quad Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2P8008GQ
Item #: N82E16820227291
$89.99



Bring on the good ol' days!
 
LightningCrash said:
4/30/2009
1ea
OCZ Platinum Edition 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Quad Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2P8008GQ
Item #: N82E16820227291
$89.99



Bring on the good ol' days!
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That was a great deal! Same kits is probably over $200 now.

However, I don't see those kits going back to $89 because companies have been shifting to DDR3.
 
I bought mine on 4/10/09
20-227-290 MEM 2Gx4|OCZ OCZ2G8008GQ R $82.99

If ddr3 gets this cheap im going to max out ram on my next build.
 
bezant said:
That was a great deal! Same kits is probably over $200 now.

However, I don't see those kits going back to $89 because companies have been shifting to DDR3.
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I still cannot believe my amazing timing on that one. I can't really find the Platinum anywhere now. The 8GB Gold kit is ~$215 right now and it's 5-5-5, the Platinum was 5-4-4.

My next build will be DDR3 and I plan to buy in to the platform when 8GB is ~$100 again ;)
 
I wasnt too happy that my RAM was the same price as my 930 (for the i7, thank you Microcenter!!!!). If this does turn out to be true, Im getting my hands on another 6GB for my system. My box rarely hits over 4 GB gaming, but ya know what? I just want 12GB in my machine damnit!!!! :D
 
Yeah, spot prices are already below contract prices, and according to an article in Digitimes:

"Chai also predicts that in 2011-12, the PC DRAM market may be dogged by oversupply that will trigger another full-scale price correction, with less-competitive players to be forced to leave the market."

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100528PD216.html
 
So while the big decline might be next year, we are starting to see the turn towards lower prices of ram.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100528PR204.html

"Driven by major memory module houses' sharp price cuts, corresponding DRAM spot prices have posted an acute drop this week, especially for the DDR2 segment, according to inSpectrum.

Spot prices of 1Gb DDR2 dropped by 6-11 %, averaging at US$2.11 as of the noon session of May 28. Prices of 1Gb DDR3 also posted a 2-3% drop to US$2.64.

Some branded memory module houses have cut their quotes for 2GB DDR2 modules by over 10%, with prices edging to around US$37. Some white-branded memory module houses also followed suit, resulting in a sharp drop in the corresponding effectively tested (eTT) segment, inSpectrum observed.

The price correction was expected as most memory module houses, traders/brokers are seeing stronger sales pressure as the quarter ends. Some who may have built up too much inventory, may start dumping excess chips in the channel, inSpectrum explained.

Meanwhile, given that around 80% of PC systems sold in the OEM market will include DDR3 modules in the second quarter, leading memory module makers have to speed up their migration in the channel by clearing existing DDR2 inventory, the firm commented.

The NAND flash spot market was still quiet this week. Some speculation trading for 16Gb multi-level cell (MLC) chips was seen. But any price bounces proved to be temporary.

As of the noon session of May 28, spot prices of 16Gb and 32Gb MLC closed at US$3.97 and US$7.15, respectively."
 
Not going to hold my breath...inevitably someone will fart over in Taiwan and cause the price of memory to skyrocket once again.
 
Hmmmmm, another good reason to upgrade the system memory! Not that I need more, but I always find a use for it.
 
DRAM contract price starts losing strength, says inSpectrum

After seeing ASPs of DRAM hold stable for a while, a weakening price trend emerged in the first half of June, with stronger downside pressure expected in the later half of the month, according to inSpectrum.

ASPs for 2GB DDR2 modules dropped 2% to US$40 and 2GB DDR3 posted a mild 0.2% growth to US$45.

Given that PC OEMs have stockpiled sufficient DDR2 inventory and DDR3 has dominated contract market demand, a downhill price trend is expected, inSpectrum said. Consumer electronics goods such as digital cameras and set-top boxes (STBs) have replaced PCs as the major demand contributor for DDR2, the firm added.

Going forward, the downhill price trend for DDR2 is expected to continue throughout the third quarter, but the magnitude may not be as strong as expected because some vendors may mull over deals for the entire quarter, inSpectrum projected. Also, stronger demand from the consumer electronics segment may also help prevent sharp ASP erosion.

For the DDR3 segment, most vendors have been able to hold their quotes flat in the first half of June. PC OEMs have been reluctant to make aggressive procurements, given that most have tended to be more conservative about PC sales in the third quarter, plus a sufficient inventory level is on hand. In light of a potential demand weakness, downside ASP pressure may loom in the later half of the month, said inSpectrum.


Source: inSpectrum, compiled by Digitimes, Jun 2010
 
^ so in other words, if i'm going for DDR3. There is no need to wait because the price won't drop? Only DDR2 is dropping?
 
hOrnizuka said:
^ so in other words, if i'm going for DDR3. There is no need to wait because the price won't drop? Only DDR2 is dropping?
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I am also curious as I am looking to build my new system middle of next week. I would consider putting it off another week or 2.
 
send them a message (the ram manufacturers)


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