The highly rated HP Pavilion Slimline PC thread

Joe72 said:
Hi all i've read alot of this forum and just wanted to give a few of my experiances, I was looking for a graphics upgrade for a 5xxx series slimline and in the end i went for the 5570 hd I havent seen much discussed about this card but thus far my experiances have been positive, it consumes very little power 45w at stock and thus does not seem to require a psu upgrade and its performances seem to be comparable to the gddr3 version of the gt 240 (i belive the gddr5 version is not avalible low profile) its performance is slightly below the 9600gt however the low profile low power variants of this card are almost impossible to get hold of in the uk.

Another point about this card is if you feel like you have the psu headroom then it overclocks very nicely im running the memory at 1050mhz totally stable which is 150mhz above stock. (memory bandwidth appears to be the limiting factor on this card so no core overclock used to save power) I expect this overclock to bring performance up to a 9600gt level thoucgh havent yet had time to do performance tests) (the card currently runs ntw without glitches on a 1920-1080 monitor (though at this rez some effects have to be turned down (high rather than utra for quality but still ultra unit sizes) runs on full quality with good framerate at lower resolutions.)

Temeratures are a little high even with fan on full (gpu hit 83'C after 2 hours gaming therefore i will add additional fans to be safe)

Overall I would highly recomend this card not quite the power of the 9600 gt (though maybe equal to the green edition?) but it is far more availble especially in the uk. (also offers additional features)

Overall this card has performed very nicely and im pleased with it, though obv its no 9800gt) i will post testing scores as soon as i have time for them but it definitly is a card to consider for an easy and avalible upgrade.
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That's too much power for a s3xxxx series slimline's stock PUS - 45 watts...Just an FYI for those that didn't closely read that this poster actually is using a s5xxxxx series slimline (which has a 230 watt PSU)
 
Archaea said:
ObiYawn,

you can buy vga heatsink solutions at most places - IE newegg or microcenter etc, but you know what I'd look up Kyle Bennett, [H]ardForum owner and editor in chief and have him fix the situation for him based on this thread! You are NOT the first person this has happened to on those cards.

http://hardforum.com:80/showthread.php?t=1510922
post 13 and post 93.
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Thanks man! I contacted Kyle, so let's see what happens. I also took a closer look at the GPU with the heatsink removed, and I actually notice some sort of blistering on the surface. So my earlier statement that it is in good shape was premature. Who knows how much longer it will survive, even with a new heatsink & fan attached.
 
Ignis said:
Archaea,

Have you had time to take a look at the pictures I posted?
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just checked them out when I got home and compared them to a couple of slimline cases I have here at the house. My slimlines match theronins's rather than yours, and yes you are correct! Yours look different - I'll update the first post. The 60 mm fans will be larger than the grills - on the more traditional case, but not to the point where they won't function - nor will they obstruct ports.
 
Archaea said:
You have the 160 watt PSU most likely. It's easy to tell when you pull of your cover and look at the sticker for the combined watts, watch my video in the first post of this thread about PSU replacements for info on where that sticker is. The 160 watt PSU does NOT have that much headroom for a graphics card upgrade. It can be done, but I don't recommend it personally outside of perahaps and ATI 4350, or even possibly a 4550. My AMD slimline could not handle a low power 8400GS with a 65 watt CPU at full power draw.

If you want to go for a faster video card, like the 9500GS, or the 8600 GT you could probably pull it off if you go to a 45 watt CPU - like the 4850e, or BE-2400. Read the first post if you haven't started there....
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I took your advice and installed one of these: 1GB XFX HD4550 HD-455X-ZAF2 GPU 625MHz D-Sub/DVI-I/TV
So far I'm very happy with it as it's running as cool as a cucumber.
The only prob is that the fan noise is a little bit loud, however, it's nearly the same frequency as my tinittus!!
My WEI has gone up as well.
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BTW how do I improve the 'Desktop performance for Windows Aero'? as it's way lower than my other scores (4.2)?
 
Hi, what kind of motherboard has the s3620la?? micro-itx or micro atx?? whats the difference between them??? in case its a micro itx, my power supply shuld be from the same kind or a common atx works fine with M-itx?? thx!!
 
Joe72 said:
Hi all i've read alot of this forum and just wanted to give a few of my experiances, I was looking for a graphics upgrade for a 5xxx series slimline and in the end i went for the 5570 hd I havent seen much discussed about this card but thus far my experiances have been positive, it consumes very little power 45w at stock and thus does not seem to require a psu upgrade and its performances seem to be comparable to the gddr3 version of the gt 240 (i belive the gddr5 version is not avalible low profile) its performance is slightly below the 9600gt however the low profile low power variants of this card are almost impossible to get hold of in the uk.
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How is the noise level? I expect it to ramp up in gaming, but how about at the desktop?

I just got a 220GT for my Acer slimline and jeebus is it loud.
 
xXHardXx said:
BTW how do I improve the 'Desktop performance for Windows Aero'? as it's way lower than my other scores (4.2)?
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I think it's related to the performance of your graphics card, just like the gaming graphics score. Adding a more powerful video card would improve your score, in that sense.
 
Halsey said:
I'm honestly not quite sure, sorry. I...wouldn't think replacing the processor without updating the BIOS first could cause problems, but either way I can't say for certain from experience. Same thing goes for the Vista/7 issue on the BIOS...When I updated to version 5.18 I was still using Vista.

Actually, I just thought of this: my slimline, which as the same motherboard as yours (M2N61-AR) came with the 5200+, and originally had BIOS version 5.10. So one could reason that at least the 5200+ should theoretically work with / be supported by BIOS version 5.10. This is just an educated guess, though. I really can't say for sure whether it will work.
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Okay thanks for all the help! According to the first post, they are both supported by my board. The 5200+ officially and the 4850e says that it is according to a member that posted that it worked. So i think I will be fine either way. Worst case, I have to install vista to update the bios and then format and install windows 7 again haha.
 
Halsey said:
I think it's related to the performance of your graphics card, just like the gaming graphics score. Adding a more powerful video card would improve your score, in that sense.
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Thanks for the info.
BTW I've subscribed to this thread, but, I'm not receiving any notifications. I also filled in my specs in my sig but it's not showing.
Any suggestions?
EDIT: My signature is showing now, I assume it's because it's a new post.
This Forum needs updating. lol
 
Regional Coffee said:
How is the noise level? I expect it to ramp up in gaming, but how about at the desktop?

I just got a 220GT for my Acer slimline and jeebus is it loud.
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To answer my own question:

Couldn't take the GT220 any more, truly ridiculous - the thing is a turbine even at the desktop. So I did some research and picked up the Sapphire 5570.

Holy crap. Almost *silent* at the Win7 desktop, and this is with the heat-constrained Aspire mini (I see they've since added ventilation on the top for new cases finally, but mine has the old case). It ramps up in intensive gaming sure, but quiets right down in less than 10 sec when back at the desktop. Overall it's actually quieter than the 9500GT, in a completely different world than the 220. Faster than the 220GT as well.

Awesome, awesome card. The one to beat for single-slot mini systems where noise is also a concern IMO.
 
Regional coffee,

I never heard my low profile Galaxy 9800GT except at bootup - even in a slimline - the fan is absolutely silent - Only the sparkle PSU fan ramps up in gaming - (even the 60 mm I have modded into mine - though it is quieter than the stock 40mm fan the PSU comes with.)
 
Archaea said:
Regional coffee,

I never heard my low profile Galaxy 9800GT except at bootup - even in a slimline - the fan is absolutely silent - Only the sparkle PSU fan ramps up in gaming - (even the 60 mm I have modded into mine - though it is quieter than the stock 40mm fan the PSU comes with.)
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I hear its noise profile is excellent as well. But it's not a choice for single-slot systems (not to mention that you need a new PSU as well) which is why I specified as such.
 
Regional Coffee said:
I hear its noise profile is excellent as well.
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Odd - That's the first time I've ever heard anything about the volume of the low profile 9800GT. Of course, maybe it's because the card is so quiet I can't hear anything at all. :p:D;) (sorry, that's really bad joke - it made more sense in my head :p)


...I digress. Does anybody have any recommendations, preferably from experience, of a good, quiet, reliable 50 or 60mm fan? After looking at case fans for the additional cooling required by the 9800GT, I decided to go with a 50mm or 60mm fan because I'd like to mount them on the inside of the case, attached to the vent holes on the side, below the CPU heatsink fan - from rough estimates seems like I have room for at most 2 60mm fans.

I'd like it to be as quiet as possible, or at least as quiet as can be expected with a fan of such a small size. As Arch pointed out, the varying testing methods companies use to give a dB rating to fans leads to unpredictable results - so if anybody could recommend a fan based on experience with it, I'd appreciate it very much. Thanks!
 
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The fan i'm using on my PSU (60MM) is from an old AMD heatsink. It is quiet. I think if you go with a Yate Loon (if you can find it in a 60mm) you'll be good - they have always been known to be quiet. Remember you can wire most fans quality fans up at 5 volt to both decrease noise by slowing air speed (turbulence)
 
Hey Guys,

I need your expertise again, running a Slimline 3300z, 4GB DDR26400 RAM, and Win 7 Pro 64bit.

So i upgraded my slimline to a 65W 5200+ from a 45W BE2300 and I think that I am getting lock ups, I left it on for 15 min or so and when I came back, it was not responding. It doesn't happen all the time though. (Actually not much at all, I think Im just paranoid) I ran a stress test and the temps seem to go from 34C to 68C which I hear is normal for a AMD. But throughout the test, I could never hear the CPU fan speed up. Maybe you never can, and I just never payed attention before. So I think maybe the system is low on power?

I am on the 160W PSU, and maybe I could use a little more power to be on the safe side; does anyone know if the 230W power supply from the newer slimlines fit in the older ones such as the 3300z? I think I can get my hands on one of those. The case looks like the same one, so I might give it a shot, and it would let me run a new graphics card too probably.
 
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Reporting back in on my situation with the busted power supply and subsequent attempts to replace it. The replacement Sparkle 270 PSU I got from CensusPC showed signs of being refurbished and turned out to be almost dead on arrival. Two days after installation, it is shutting off spontaneously and repeatedly and from past experience I know this means that it's as good as dead. I really can't imagine what is going on with the computer, unless it is a string of faulty products and bad luck, but I've taken a few pictures of my interior setup to see if anyone here can spot anything that might be the problem. Anything that might cause four power supplies to die in the span of a few months.

http://i40.tinypic.com/ju7mg1.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2diir89.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/1zm2z54.jpg

Unless someone can explain what is going on here I'm going to have to assume that this computer is finished and I'd best not throw any more good money after the bad. I got a fair three years out of this machine, so I'm not really displeased. I was hoping for more longevity than this, however.
 
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LOVE this thread!

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I've just purchased a manufacturer refurb s5280t off eBay and wanted to know if I'm right on the following facts gleaned from this thread.

(1) S5000 series has larger case and more powerful PSU
(2) Upgrading graphics card to low profile 9800GT will 'probably' require upgrading stock PSU
(3) Will need to purchase several adapters (listed on first page of thread) in order to get new PSU to work with motherboard connectors


What I haven't been able to verify are the following:

(a) what PSU make/brand works with the S5000 series and where to obtain the PSU?
(b) is a new PSU even required - as the larger PSU in the S5000 might have enough power???
(c) stock case might be large/cool enough for a Quad processor and a 9800GT low profile card without additional cooling
(d) if there are several PSU choices for the S5000 series, which are the best/quietest?

If someone could help me out with feedback on these questions I'd appreciate it. I'd like to get the extra components ordered now so I can start tinkering the moment the unit arrives!

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Ok, reviewed the thread and it appears that no PSU was ever recommended for that would PRECISELY fit the s5000 series. Does anyone know if the smaller units like the Sparkle 270 will fit in the s5000 series case securely?
 
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LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, IS ANYONE LOOKING IN TO LEGAL ACTION AGAINST HP IN REGARDS TO FAULTY MOTHERBOARDS IN THE SLIMLINES? RE: the known faulty motherboards and power supplies. My current box has had the issue twice, it was a replacement for another that had it 4-5 times. HP acknowledges the issue of the bad motherboard, and since they have ignored my service calls until I am now 20 days out of warranty, they are going to sell me a new m/b (exact same problematic one) for $300 - a 25% discount but only warranty it for 3 months which is probably not enough time for the issue to happen again, but it will.

Isn't the definition of stupidity trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

Most of you know that for $300 you can get a pretty darned good motherboard from a reputable vendor and not have the same issues.

Please PM me since I don't get on this board all that often.
 
Ignis said:
Reporting back in on my situation with the busted power supply and subsequent attempts to replace it. The replacement Sparkle 270 PSU I got from CensusPC showed signs of being refurbished and turned out to be almost dead on arrival. Two days after installation, it is shutting off spontaneously and repeatedly and from past experience I know this means that it's as good as dead. I really can't imagine what is going on with the computer, unless it is a string of faulty products and bad luck, but I've taken a few pictures of my interior setup to see if anyone here can spot anything that might be the problem. Anything that might cause four power supplies to die in the span of a few months.
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Ignis, your problem might not be in the power supplies themselves. Might be that the Main's (AC) electricity you are receiving from your electric company is very dirty (has huge distortions in the normally smooth 60 Hz sine wave), which could be forcing your power supply to work extremely hard to produce DC electricity 'clean' enough to be used by your computer. This extra 'wear and tear' on your power supply can be enough to cause premature death.

That's my take on the issue. However, if this is, in fact, the case, then getting an uninterruptible power supply might be the solution to your problem. The UPS would help your PSU clean up the unregulated spikes in your AC power.

I'm not discounting the possibility that you've simply gotten several bad PSU's. However, I don't think your problems are caused by the components in your PC, either. Just to be sure, though, what are the specs on your slimline again?
 
jeffreyerhu said:
everyone who has tried upgrading a slimline with ati HD 5450 on a pci 1.0 slot and working well?
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I tried to install a Sapphire hd 5450 on my s3200t and it wouldn't even get to post. After digging deeper, I read a number of posts in different spots that claim that these PCIe 2.0 and 2.1 cards are not backwards compatible. Another post mentioned updating mobo BIOS and it should work. Problem is HP says I have the newest BIOS and it was released in 2007. I got tired of messing with it and sent it back. I still want a card, but am nervous about selecting the wrong one and dealing with returns and loss of money.

This leads me to my question. I do not game on my slimline. I do limited video/photo editing and I want to free up memory from the onboard 7500 LE card that uses virtual memory. Which would be the best card for those purposes that will work on my system? I have the stock 180w PSU and intel cpu. I see the hd 4550, the 8600 GT, and the 8400 GS recommended on this site. Which would give me the best performance on my s3200t and plug right in with no problems? Thanks in advance for the help.
 
mrjoolius said:
I tried to install a Sapphire hd 5450 on my s3200t and it wouldn't even get to post. After digging deeper, I read a number of posts in different spots that claim that these PCIe 2.0 and 2.1 cards are not backwards compatible. Another post mentioned updating mobo BIOS and it should work. Problem is HP says I have the newest BIOS and it was released in 2007. I got tired of messing with it and sent it back. I still want a card, but am nervous about selecting the wrong one and dealing with returns and loss of money.

This leads me to my question. I do not game on my slimline. I do limited video/photo editing and I want to free up memory from the onboard 7500 LE card that uses virtual memory. Which would be the best card for those purposes that will work on my system? I have the stock 180w PSU and intel cpu. I see the hd 4550, the 8600 GT, and the 8400 GS recommended on this site. Which would give me the best performance on my s3200t and plug right in with no problems? Thanks in advance for the help.
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If you are not adding additional cooling - I think the ATI 4350 might be a great card for you. It's not gaming focused, but can handle anythign else you throw at it and runs cool, silent, and does not require hardly any power.

8400GS uses close to 40 watts, (I had trouble with mine on a stock power supply when maxing out the CPU workload) -- and the 8600GT uses a bit more. I know that some of the guys have used the ATI HD-4550 in a slimline without issue. Could you have gotten a bad card?

If you don't plan to game I would go for the lowest power draw, but yet still capable card and look towards the HD4350.
 
gamedeveloper said:
LOVE this thread!

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I've just purchased a manufacturer refurb s5280t off eBay and wanted to know if I'm right on the following facts gleaned from this thread.

(1) S5000 series has larger case and more powerful PSU
(2) Upgrading graphics card to low profile 9800GT will 'probably' require upgrading stock PSU
(3) Will need to purchase several adapters (listed on first page of thread) in order to get new PSU to work with motherboard connectors


What I haven't been able to verify are the following:

(a) what PSU make/brand works with the S5000 series and where to obtain the PSU?
(b) is a new PSU even required - as the larger PSU in the S5000 might have enough power???
(c) stock case might be large/cool enough for a Quad processor and a 9800GT low profile card without additional cooling
(d) if there are several PSU choices for the S5000 series, which are the best/quietest?

If someone could help me out with feedback on these questions I'd appreciate it. I'd like to get the extra components ordered now so I can start tinkering the moment the unit arrives!

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Ok, reviewed the thread and it appears that no PSU was ever recommended for that would PRECISELY fit the s5000 series. Does anyone know if the smaller units like the Sparkle 270 will fit in the s5000 series case securely?
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unfortunately I can't assist you in these questions. I've never opened up a s5xxx series slimline so I don't know the requirements. I do believe that the powersupplies are a different form factor, so the sparkle 270 watt may not fit the bill, I don't even know if they still use that proprietary micro atx power supply connector on the s5000 series. This thread has basically lived and died in the s3xxx slimline universe.
 
Ignis said:
Reporting back in on my situation with the busted power supply and subsequent attempts to replace it. The replacement Sparkle 270 PSU I got from CensusPC showed signs of being refurbished and turned out to be almost dead on arrival. Two days after installation, it is shutting off spontaneously and repeatedly and from past experience I know this means that it's as good as dead. I really can't imagine what is going on with the computer, unless it is a string of faulty products and bad luck, but I've taken a few pictures of my interior setup to see if anyone here can spot anything that might be the problem. Anything that might cause four power supplies to die in the span of a few months.

http://i40.tinypic.com/ju7mg1.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2diir89.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/1zm2z54.jpg

Unless someone can explain what is going on here I'm going to have to assume that this computer is finished and I'd best not throw any more good money after the bad. I got a fair three years out of this machine, so I'm not really displeased. I was hoping for more longevity than this, however.
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I tend to agree with Halsey - that I don't think your internal componets could be screwing up power supplies.

I would think either heat, or poor ac power at the wall is frying your PSUs. Why do you figure the sparkle 270 watt from censuspc was a refurb? If it was you might have a claim there. I'm sorry for the rash of bad luck - but in reality that is my suspicion - you are having a nasty rash of bad luck.
 
Archaea said:
unfortunately I can't assist you in these questions. I've never opened up a s5xxx series slimline so I don't know the requirements. I do believe that the powersupplies are a different form factor, so the sparkle 270 watt may not fit the bill, I don't even know if they still use that proprietary micro atx power supply connector on the s5000 series. This thread has basically lived and died in the s3xxx slimline universe.
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"Proprietary Micro ATX Power Supply Connector?"

Whoa... Are you saying there is NO adapter I can purchase for the S5000 series to make a new PSU work with the motherboard? 8-0
 
Archaea said:
If you are not adding additional cooling - I think the ATI 4350 might be a great card for you. It's not gaming focused, but can handle anythign else you throw at it and runs cool, silent, and does not require hardly any power.

8400GS uses close to 40 watts, (I had trouble with mine on a stock power supply when maxing out the CPU workload) -- and the 8600GT uses a bit more. I know that some of the guys have used the ATI HD-4550 in a slimline without issue. Could you have gotten a bad card?
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The bad card is a possibility ( I didn't check it on another computer). I had found a post on tomshardware and some reviews on newegg that stated compatibility issues and similar blank screen results on older mobos. I saw the endorsements for the 4550 in the slimlines on this site, I am just worried that they are newer slimlines and don't have the mobo concerns.

Does anyone run the HD4550 on the s3200t without problems? If I can't get an answer on that, I think I will just go with the 4350. Thanks for the input.
 
gamedeveloper said:
"Proprietary Micro ATX Power Supply Connector?"

Whoa... Are you saying there is NO adapter I can purchase for the S5000 series to make a new PSU work with the motherboard? 8-0
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No I'm saying the s3xxx series slimlines have the proprietary micro atx connector on the motherboards. I don't know if the s5xxx series slimlines use that smaller connector or if they use a standard ATX power supply connector. If they use the standard size then obviously any PSU will work. If they use the smaller HP proprietary micro-fit connector then you need an adapter from ebay or atxpowersupplies.com - info detailed in the first post.
 
Archaea said:
No I'm saying the s3xxx series slimlines have the proprietary micro atx connector on the motherboards. I don't know if the s5xxx series slimlines use that smaller connector or if they use a standard ATX power supply connector. If they use the standard size then obviously any PSU will work. If they use the smaller HP proprietary micro-fit connector then you need an adapter from ebay or atxpowersupplies.com - info detailed in the first post.
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Ah. When the unit comes I'll be sure and take pictures and record what the heck is inside it. I've also got a low-end dual core (S5212Y) coming from New Egg - so I'll be able to compare it to the Quad Core (PSU, MOBO, etc) and post the results.
 
What is the most current BIOS for the s3200t? I believe I have 5.08 released in 2007. HP claims that is the latest. Though in reading, I've learned to not always trust what HP says. I see that the s3200n (AMD model) has a later 2008 BIOS release (5.18) even though they were both released around the same time. I've been told that a BIOS update could solve all my PCI-Ex16 compatibility issues.

This kind of piggybacks on my earlier post. Everybody is recommending the HD 4350 or 4550 cards for me. I'd love to get either but it seems that everybody that says they work great runs an AMD cpu on a different mobo than I have. I have the intel cpu on the ipilr-ar mobo. Anybody out there with the same mobo have luck running the HD4350 or HD4550? Both use PCI-Ex16 2.0, which worries me with the problems I had on the HD5450. I'm starting to wonder if I am limited to strictly PCI-Ex16 1.0 cards. Finding a low power, low profile card that is PCI-E 1.0 that is a noticable improvement to my 7500 LE is pretty difficult to do these days. If I can get at least one positive endorsement on a similar system I will order the 4350/4550 today. It is all very frustrating. Thanks.
 
gamedeveloper said:
My understanding of PCI-E was that 2.0 cards were backwards compatible with 1.x motherboards and 2.0 motherboards were compatible with 1.x cards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
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That was my understanding as well. But I couldnt get the HD5450 to even get to post. So I got to looking and found on newegg reports of the same symptoms.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814102876

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...=False&VendorMark=&Keywords=(keywords)&Page=5


Since I can't find an updated BIOS as suggested, im not sure what direction to go.
 
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mrjoolius said:
What is the most current BIOS for the s3200t? I believe I have 5.08 released in 2007. HP claims that is the latest. Though in reading, I've learned to not always trust what HP says. I see that the s3200n (AMD model) has a later 2008 BIOS release (5.18) even though they were both released around the same time. I've been told that a BIOS update could solve all my PCI-Ex16 compatibility issues.

This kind of piggybacks on my earlier post. Everybody is recommending the HD 4350 or 4550 cards for me. I'd love to get either but it seems that everybody that says they work great runs an AMD cpu on a different mobo than I have. I have the intel cpu on the ipilr-ar mobo. Anybody out there with the same mobo have luck running the HD4350 or HD4550? Both use PCI-Ex16 2.0, which worries me with the problems I had on the HD5450. I'm starting to wonder if I am limited to strictly PCI-Ex16 1.0 cards. Finding a low power, low profile card that is PCI-E 1.0 that is a noticable improvement to my 7500 LE is pretty difficult to do these days. If I can get at least one positive endorsement on a similar system I will order the 4350/4550 today. It is all very frustrating. Thanks.
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most of the intel slimlines from the s3xxxt family used your same motherboard. my s3600t for instance, and the 9800GT which is most definitely PCI-Ex16 2.0 works just fine. I have a suspicion most of the 9xxx series Nvidia cards use 2.0 and they work in my s3600t. I've tried the 9500gs, the 9800GT, the 8600GT --- all are 2.0 and work fine in my s3600t.
 
Archaea said:
most of the intel slimlines from the s3xxxt family used your same motherboard. my s3600t for instance, and the 9800GT which is most definitely PCI-Ex16 2.0 works just fine. I have a suspicion most of the 9xxx series Nvidia cards use 2.0 and they work in my s3600t. I've tried the 9500gs, the 9800GT, the 8600GT --- all are 2.0 and work fine in my s3600t.
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I see that they use the same board model number, but my IPILP-AR looks like an older generation of yours. I wonder if that matters. I do know your BIOS is much more up to date (v. 5.23). I am new to this, but would installing that BIOS on my system since they share similar mobos be harmfull?
 
Mrjoolius -

I'm wrong ---- now that you've shared your motherboard model I know that for sure. - My s3600t has the Irvine-GL6E. Since I have a different motherboard I won't speak to what yours can or can't run. I've got no exp. with your board. I apologize for the confusion. Perhaps someone else can assist. I would not mix and match BIOS revisions between boards. It's asking for stability issues and the like - even if it works.


I confirmed your motherboard model on on HP just now
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...ry&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3629378&lang=en

I should have done that first. Again I apologize.
 
Hi guys, i've recently purchased a HP Pavilion Slimline case and psu of Ebay, but i can't find any European retailers selling 24-mini-atx to 20/24 atx adapters! The atxpowersupplies.com have them but they charge crazy money for that cable, 39 $$ for the shipping alone !!! Do any of you have any spare ones, or know any cheaper place to find that adapter? Thanks!
 
Ok, did some more detailed reading through this thread and came up with this as an option for a power supply replacement for s5000 series:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151090

One of the reviewers indicates that it gave him the power to upgrade a s5000 series slimline to a GT220 video card. Not sure yet if that means it would have enough power for a 9800GT low profile card, but will do a bit more research to find out.

Also, the specs for the PSU indicate it is very quiet. (Although some latter posts in this forum seem to indicate the 400 watt variant of this PSU is pretty noisy...)

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Also note that from the rear of the case, the original PSU looks very much like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817154027

However, the side fan appears to be somewhat out of position...


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A bit more research shows that all low profile 9800GT and 9600GT class cards require 26 amps on the 12v rail, which cannot be delivered by anything less than a 400watt PSU (http://www.techaddicts.net/reviews/9800gt/9800gt.html). Hmmmn... The Sparkle SPI270LE delivers 26 amps through combined output of both 12v rails, even though it is only a 270 watt PSU (http://www.sparklepower.com/pdf/SPI270LE.pdf). The docs for the SeaSonic 300 watt PSU indicate 21 amps on the 12v rail, so unless this is a typo the SeaSonic is a no-go for a higher end GPU (http://www.seasonic.com/pdf/datasheet/NEW/Bulk/PC/TFX/SS-250 300TFX_APFC.pdf).

Looking into the Apex PSU now. Appears to come in two flavors: http://www.apextechusa.com/products.asp?pID=45 http://www.apextechusa.com/products.asp?pID=211 and the 300watt variant is located here: http://affiliates.thenerds.net/APC.Rosewill_Value_SL_300TFX_SFX12V_Power_Supply.SL300TFX.html

Slim pickings on info for this however. Right now I have no idea how much juice the 12v rail is packing. Will open up my two s5000 series cases this weekend and review the measurements, screw positions and cabling of my PSUs to determine if one of these is a good replacement size wise. Will also look into what the Apex PSU has on the 12v rail.

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Another note : Although I haven't followed up fully, this card (9600GT low profile "ready" http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814162030) appears to get all the power it needs from the PCI-e x16 slot... 75 watts? Going to follow up on this as well.
 
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gamedeveloper said:
Ok, did some more detailed reading through this thread and came up with this as an option for a power supply replacement for s5000 series:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151090

One of the reviewers indicates that it gave him the power to upgrade a s5000 series slimline to a GT220 video card. Not sure yet if that means it would have enough power for a 9800GT low profile card, but will do a bit more research to find out.

Also, the specs for the PSU indicate it is very quiet. (Although some latter posts in this forum seem to indicate the 400 watt variant of this PSU is pretty noisy...)

---

Also note that from the rear of the case, the original PSU looks very much like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817154027

However, the side fan appears to be somewhat out of position...


---

A bit more research shows that all low profile 9800GT and 9600GT class cards require 26 amps on the 12v rail, which cannot be delivered by anything less than a 400watt PSU (http://www.techaddicts.net/reviews/9800gt/9800gt.html). Hmmmn... The Sparkle SPI270LE delivers 26 amps through combined output of both 12v rails, even though it is only a 270 watt PSU (http://www.sparklepower.com/pdf/SPI270LE.pdf). The docs for the SeaSonic 300 watt PSU indicate 21 amps on the 12v rail, so unless this is a typo the SeaSonic is a no-go for a higher end GPU (http://www.seasonic.com/pdf/datasheet/NEW/Bulk/PC/TFX/SS-250 300TFX_APFC.pdf).

Looking into the Apex PSU now. Appears to come in two flavors: http://www.apextechusa.com/products.asp?pID=45 http://www.apextechusa.com/products.asp?pID=211 and the 300watt variant is located here: http://affiliates.thenerds.net/APC.Rosewill_Value_SL_300TFX_SFX12V_Power_Supply.SL300TFX.html

Slim pickings on info for this however. Right now I have no idea how much juice the 12v rail is packing. Will open up my two s5000 series cases this weekend and review the measurements, screw positions and cabling of my PSUs to determine if one of these is a good replacement size wise. Will also look into what the Apex PSU has on the 12v rail.

---

Another note : Although I haven't followed up fully, this card (9600GT low profile "ready" http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814162030) appears to get all the power it needs from the PCI-e x16 slot... 75 watts? Going to follow up on this as well.
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The 220gt runs off a stock psu without problem so im not sure why they would upgrade for that.

Are you thinking of running this with the dual core you bought? Cause if you can find a low profile low power 9600gt I think you might be ok without a psu upgrade. Im just basing this on my experiances with the 5570hd which is running off a stock psu with a amd quad core without problems. (even runs with overclocking) If your going for the 9800gt you definitly need the upgrade (from my reading) but you might get away with the 9600gt low power without it.

Just my two cents/
 
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