HP ZR24w

Yeah, mine hasn't come yet either. It has been "Out for Delivery" since 6am Eastern time, so it should have gotten here in the morning since UPS usually delivers twice a day around here. Probably not until 3 or 4pm now.

Just as well, since once that monitor arrives, my work day is history. :p
 
OK, guys, I'm interested in comparison between ZR24w and LP2475w.

ZR24w vs LP2475w:
newer is better?
cheaper is better?
heavier is better?

I'm only interested in picture quality - for reading text, writing and programming. Color fidelity is not important for me.
 
text/writing/programming?


get TN panel and be done with it. there are plenty TN panels that have great IQ for what you need.
 
miskoslav said:
OK, guys, I'm interested in comparison between ZR24w and LP2475w.

ZR24w vs LP2475w:
newer is better?
cheaper is better?
heavier is better?

I'm only interested in picture quality - for reading text, writing and programming. Color fidelity is not important for me.
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chris_n said:
text/writing/programming?


get TN panel and be done with it. there are plenty TN panels that have great IQ for what you need.
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^^^ This you should be looking to save some cash and a get a decent TN panel.


Oh and whoever gets it first, remember, unboxing pics!
 
first impressions:

ips sparkle is there, not bad, but apparent.

what is dynamic contrast ratio? i just turned it on. didn't really make any difference, seemed to get brighter.


preliminary eyeball (totally ghetto) tests on lagom show that this monitor

black level is OK (can't really distinguish lowest level)

white level is OK (can't really distinguish 254)

flicker on 2b and 4b full screen ineversion test

response time test is decent enough for me, i saw maybe 1 bar trailing the image.



not terribly impressed w/ out of box color, seems to have a greenish hue. we'll see how it does after a calibration
 
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chris_n said:
first impressions:

ips sparkle is there, not bad, but apparent.

what is dynamic contrast ratio? i just turned it on. didn't really make any difference, seemed to get brighter.


preliminary eyeball (totally ghetto) tests on lagom show that this monitor

black level is OK (can't really distinguish lowest level)

white level is OK (can't really distinguish 254)

flicker on 2b and 4b full screen ineversion test

response time test is decent enough for me, i saw maybe 1 bar trailing the image.
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Dynamic contract adjusts the brightness according to the white level on the screen. Best to turn it off in my opinion.

Can you take some pics of the lcd?
 
What is IPS sparkle? Is it caused by the anti-glare coating, or by a noisy picture?
Also, can you post pics/vids of the monitor in action? :D
 
not a lot of time to make sexy shots, here are quick snaps.

uniformity seems ok to me, the stand is great! full adjustment. the base does not rotate, rather the stump that the monitor sits on does, which is nice.

OSD is fine, nothing great. TBH, i liked the OSD on my friends u2410 much more. (fancy lookin)

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edit: not sure why these pics aren't embedding, maybe they are too large. but click away.
 
I'm a bit interested in the portrait mode, how far down can you get the monitor to your desk (talking about the bottom edge of the screen when it's in portrait mode) for example and will you see a difference on the top/bottom when it's in that mode because of viewing angles or something like that?
 
portrait mode can go as low as the frame of the monitor. so basically the screen bezel will be touching the desk. it can be raised as far as the arm can go as well, which is more than enough adjustment for anyone, i'd think.

i will calibrate with a spyder2 pro sometime next week and post my findings.

also, monitor is quite bright, i've brought it down to about a unit of 20 which is currently comfortable to my eyes. (via the osd), i'm sure things will be quite different after calibration.
 
chris_n said:
not a lot of time to make sexy shots, here are quick snaps.

uniformity seems ok to me, the stand is great! full adjustment. the base does not rotate, rather the stump that the monitor sits on does, which is nice.

OSD is fine, nothing great. TBH, i liked the OSD on my friends u2410 much more. (fancy lookin)

http://www.tuftsmania.com/nerd/_MG_1264.jpg
http://www.tuftsmania.com/nerd/_MG_1266.jpg
http://www.tuftsmania.com/nerd/_MG_1269.jpg
http://www.tuftsmania.com/nerd/_MG_1272.jpg

edit: not sure why these pics aren't embedding, maybe they are too large. but click away.
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Thanks for the pics! Panel uniformity looks decent indeed.
It would be interesting to see an input lag test.
 
oh, and i wasn't looking, but it doesn't seem to have any noticeable pixel artifacts.

i don't really go hunting with a magnifying glass so YMMV
 
chris_n said:
portrait mode can go as low as the frame of the monitor. so basically the screen bezel will be touching the desk. it can be raised as far as the arm can go as well, which is more than enough adjustment for anyone, i'd think.

i will calibrate with a spyder2 pro sometime next week and post my findings.

also, monitor is quite bright, i've brought it down to about a unit of 20 which is currently comfortable to my eyes. (via the osd), i'm sure things will be quite different after calibration.
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Tnx for the answer! This sounds perfect for me then, you don't happen to have the stuff needed to do a input lag test on it? would be nice but most people don't tend to have the stuff needed for it..
 
chris_n said:
not a lot of time to make sexy shots, here are quick snaps.

uniformity seems ok to me, the stand is great! full adjustment. the base does not rotate, rather the stump that the monitor sits on does, which is nice.

OSD is fine, nothing great. TBH, i liked the OSD on my friends u2410 much more. (fancy lookin)

edit: not sure why these pics aren't embedding, maybe they are too large. but click away.
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Keep us posted while you put it through its paces. I'm curious how much ghosting there is on that monitor. Fire up some Half Life, Crysis, etc. ;)
 
CutterX said:
Thanks for the pics! Panel uniformity looks decent indeed.
It would be interesting to see an input lag test.
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Noted as well. A solid gray screen and pic would be good, as well as a blank screensaver showing backlight bleed.

Looks good so far.

No dead/stuck pixels I assume?
 
Can someone briefly explain what is "pixel walk" and why manufacturers use the inversion method to display solid colours?
 
How about color rendition. Do the colors look natural out of the box? I assume you're on the default 6400K setting? Looks like you have Aperture open in the background. Have you done some editing? Have you compared pictures on the screen to your prints? Any tinting issues like the U2410 had (doesn't appear so from the pic)?
Oh, and any time you calibrate a monitor, you need the dynamic contrast turned off. I've learned this through television calibrations (ISF). This is an artificial way to increase the contrast ratio on televisions, and now monitors. Keep it off.
 
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I hope this ends up kicking the U2410's ass. Dell's attitude toward the issues with the U2410 is pathetic.
 
good im dying for some indepth reviews
this is what I was waiting for before buying my next monitor since my 7 year old 20" dell
 
chris_n said:
not a lot of time to make sexy shots, here are quick snaps.

uniformity seems ok to me, the stand is great! full adjustment. the base does not rotate, rather the stump that the monitor sits on does, which is nice.

OSD is fine, nothing great. TBH, i liked the OSD on my friends u2410 much more. (fancy lookin)

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_MG_1266.jpg

_MG_1269.jpg

_MG_1272.jpg


edit: not sure why these pics aren't embedding, maybe they are too large. but click away.
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Does it come with a display port to mini display port cable or do you have an adapter?
 
Bruno: as i noted somewhere up there, i don't go looking for dead pixels with a loupe and microscope, so if none are blaring at me in the face, it's fine with me.

Raid: I do not have the means and equipment to do a lag test, I will say that my hand-eye coordination is very good. the monitor does seem to have a bit of lag. my ballpark would be 30ms

boost: as I have already noted in previous posts, i'm holding out on posting color reproductions until i calibrate the monitor with a colorimeter. Compared to some prints it seems to be fairly accurate OOTB.

I use lightroom to process raw images, and the colorspace is set to prophoto rgb. i'm not quite sure how this "sRGB" monitor is going to affect my workflow.

time will tell.
 
makaveli: i have a mini->displayport adapter by circuit assembly in irvine. seems to do its job.

One thing i kind of wish this monitor had is HDMI. (i have a DVI to hdmi so it's not that huge of an issue)

just because i like ports.
 
chris_n said:
portrait mode can go as low as the frame of the monitor. so basically the screen bezel will be touching the desk. it can be raised as far as the arm can go as well, which is more than enough adjustment for anyone, i'd think.

i will calibrate with a spyder2 pro sometime next week and post my findings.

also, monitor is quite bright, i've brought it down to about a unit of 20 which is currently comfortable to my eyes. (via the osd), i'm sure things will be quite different after calibration.
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You may already be planning on doing it, but if not, could you please post your monitor settings after calibration?
 
i certainly will.

one thing you must keep in mind is panel QC, temeprature, humidity, ambient lighting conditions etc all play a role in calibration.

unless we all have the same studio conditions calibrations may vary, so use them while keeping that in mind.

ps:

please ignore the light falloff as that is an artifact of my camera.


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ALSO, a quick blacklight check shows no signs of bleed.
 
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chris_n said:
i certainly will.

one thing you must keep in mind is panel QC, temeprature, humidity, ambient lighting conditions etc all play a role in calibration.
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Yeah, I know that your settings won't necessarily work the same on my monitor, but since I don't have calibration equipment, it will give me a decent starting point to get me in the right ballpark.
 
chris_n said:
Raid: I do not have the means and equipment to do a lag test, I will say that my hand-eye coordination is very good. the monitor does seem to have a bit of lag. my ballpark would be 30ms
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That is disappointing. May it be that this lag comes from your wireless mouse?
 
Well I just ordered 1, figured if I don't like it I can send it back. If I do like it I will probably pick up 2 more soon for Eyefinity.
 
Other than resolution and size, what are the differences b/w the ZR22w and ZR24w? I cannot decide if I want to spend $400 because I can get the 22 for $266 on cost central
 
that's it. the manual in the box is actually labelled for both monitors.


ALSO, viewing angles are great. especially when compared to MBP unibody screen. completely kills the mbp in horizontal and vertical.
 
Makaveli6103 said:
Other than resolution and size, what are the differences b/w the ZR22w and ZR24w? I cannot decide if I want to spend $400 because I can get the 22 for $266 on cost central
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The 1920x1200 that the 24" has is an absolute for me because I am hoping that my two 20" monitors (1600x1200) will do a 3 monitor Eyefinity without too much visual interference - given their different physical size from the ZR24W. So it depends on what you want to do now (or later).

Here's the manual for both:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...c02049456/c02049456.pdf?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

Also, though I don't see this immediately in the manual, I read that the g2g response time of the 24" is rated at 5ms vs. 8ms for the 22".
 
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chris_n said:
Raid: I do not have the means and equipment to do a lag test, I will say that my hand-eye coordination is very good. the monitor does seem to have a bit of lag. my ballpark would be 30ms
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Yikes. I'll be able to do input lag tests.....if they ever ship my triplets. :(
 
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