School Uses Students' PCs To Spy on Them at Home

PimpUigi said:
No one thinks it's fucked up what happened to me?
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of course it is, i just didnt think it was that unreal. similar things happened to friends i knew, its not just your school its the tyrannical attitude of public school administrations across much of the country. it really turned a corner after the stupid school shootings a decade ago too, its gotten way worse.
 
As a citizen of the United States - how worried would you be right now, actively knowing the FBI its self, is looking into the legality of your activities. Lol.
 
In an effort to preserve evidence, the school district caught spying on kids has been asked by lawyers not to wipe the hard drives on any of the laptops used by students. Uh oh, this looks like it is getting interesting. :eek:

A student who accuses his suburban Philadelphia school district in a lawsuit of spying on students via their school-issued webcams will ask district officials not to remove any potential evidence from student computers.
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Steve said:
In an effort to preserve evidence, the school district caught spying on kids has been asked by lawyers not to wipe the hard drives on any of the laptops used by students. Uh oh, this looks like it is getting interesting. :eek:
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Someone needs to tell the lawyer to consider going after the school's computer that remotely controlled the students computer as well.
 
I am not surprised Philadelphia is a swamp of a gene pool. Stupidity and retardation reigns supreme out here.
 
42 of your laptops (2%) are 'missing' and you don't know where they are (GG inventory control BTW)
So instead of notifying the person supposedly in possesion (i'm sure somebody signed them out to specific students)
You activate the cams and take pictures of the *perps*
Wow, the brakes on this fail coaster are broke!
 
I want to know more before I pass judgment here.
I have a 10 year old son, and I would not want this to happen, but if he took some ones laptop, and they did this and while he was using said laptop they took pics of him doing some thing against the rules I would not be upset with the school system.
I read some of the posts from what seamed to be teens and they got suspended for reason they posted, most of them I thought were just, and would have done the same.
As a kid I got into my fair share of trouble, and suspended a few times, and you know what, looking back at the age of 34 I deserved 99% of what I got, I was a punk kid and I needed punishment for what I did.,
 
HalifaxPete said:
If the lan genius does delete evidence from relating to this case, what can he be charged with if this involves the FBI?

Wouldn't previous backups contain the data in question?

These geniuses should "educate" themselves on the wearing chastity belts in prison. :D
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Evidence tampering (including destruction) can get you 10 years in Texas.
 
vengence said:
http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high.html

All doubt is removed, heads should roll.
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WTF?? I wanted to give some benifit of the doubt, but now i'm seriously pissed!!! Every admin needs to be fired, jail time, and possibly barred from being around children. Then anyone that had any idea this was going on, and didnt in some way protest..... also fired. All the school board.... dismissed and replaced by a state appointed group.

SOB that pisses me off!!!!
 
That guy (it admin) even looks like a pedo. If he goes to court he's screwed on looks alone.
 
Heads will roll and corn holes will end up getting reamed in the big house the way this is shaping up.
 
If the school administrator was stupid enough to use the webcams like this, then I'm sure he is not smart enought to have wiped all the hard drives in time either. LOL :D
 
Why hasn't the appropriate hardware been seized, or backups made, in order to protect the data that relates to this case, doesn't the DA want the evidence intact? - assuming the FBI is involved
 
Ruh roh, looks like some people at the Lower Merion School District are severely f**ked, if this latest development comes up with anything (and it wasn't looking too good for them to begin with).

I'm sure everyone noticed them trying to deflect attention from what they'd done and bring up the student in question's "illegal behavior" either directly or indirectly in the media, as much as possible...this shit just makes me mad.
 
lol, this is why i

A) dont buy stuff with built in webcams that cant be manually disabled
B) Use a USB webcam when i need one...



otherwise.....interesting.....definatly breaks some privacy law somewhere i would think...
 
Well, yeah, how can any school deem what you do in your OWN HOME as appropriate or inappropriate? Unless you are breaking the law, and even then, they have absolutely no right to spy on you in your own home.

I hope to see some long, long jail time. They should all suffer for this outrage. :cool:
 
W.Feather said:
lol, this is why i

A) dont buy stuff with built in webcams that cant be manually disabled
B) Use a USB webcam when i need one...



otherwise.....interesting.....definatly breaks some privacy law somewhere i would think...
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copy that, I cover the work laptop's web cam for that reason...wish I could remove the microphone too actually
 
MADOGRE said:
I want to know more before I pass judgment here.
I have a 10 year old son, and I would not want this to happen, but if he took some ones laptop, and they did this and while he was using said laptop they took pics of him doing some thing against the rules I would not be upset with the school system.
I read some of the posts from what seamed to be teens and they got suspended for reason they posted, most of them I thought were just, and would have done the same.
As a kid I got into my fair share of trouble, and suspended a few times, and you know what, looking back at the age of 34 I deserved 99% of what I got, I was a punk kid and I needed punishment for what I did.,
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Go read all the articles.
The whole reason this started was because a kid got called to the office and was talked to about "inappropriate behavior."
His laptop was not reported stolen, and his inappropriate behavior was eating Mike and Ikes candy, which looked like pills to the school staff who were spying on him for no reason.

The latest article has a ton more information, and other stories from kids and parents who noticed the webcam light being on at random times. When they said something to the school staff they were told it was just some glitch.

It is very clear some pedos in the IT department were spying on kids at random times.
This happened when laptops were not reported stolen.
People will go to jail for this, it is very serious.
 
The principal repremanding the student (using evidence they actively spied on a child) was in and of itself very self-incriminating.

Should be impossible to claim accidental use and even throws negligence right out the window. Should be an easy win for the student's lawyer I would imagine.
 
evilsofa said:
Apple has $24 billion cash on hand and a stock price over $200. Welcome to the 21st century.
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Yeah, so how does that stop them from getting exclusive state/federal contracts and lining their pockets with tax money even more? Hey, I'm not complaining. I own a lot of Apple stock, so keep the ball rolling.
 
vengence said:
http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high.html

All doubt is removed, heads should roll.
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This is absolutely a case closed scenario you just posted. I read it 4 times and cannot find any holes to poke into it. If people do not go to jail over this, then there is really no justice at this point. The primary highlights for me where three-fold. The first one was that students, by force, were required to use only state-school appointed equipment, namely these laptops. and that any other laptops as a function of personal property would be confiscated. The second is the remote admin curtain mode camera function built into the LANrev software being used without the users permission and without any highlighting, at least contractually that this a possible use with respect to EULA/TOS. The third is Mr. Pervix, er, I mean, Perbix' commentary on the usage of the LANrev software. Who sanctioned him to use it and under what circumstances.

This is beyond anything I've ever with respect to personal privacy intrusions. The insidious nature of this situation is even more disturbing because of the fact that it's from a state run school. This is the state on the hook, so now who's head will roll and who will be protected.
 
MADOGRE said:
I want to know more before I pass judgment here.
I have a 10 year old son, and I would not want this to happen, but if he took some ones laptop, and they did this and while he was using said laptop they took pics of him doing some thing against the rules I would not be upset with the school system.
I read some of the posts from what seamed to be teens and they got suspended for reason they posted, most of them I thought were just, and would have done the same.
As a kid I got into my fair share of trouble, and suspended a few times, and you know what, looking back at the age of 34 I deserved 99% of what I got, I was a punk kid and I needed punishment for what I did.,
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What part of taking pictures within the home and using it against you later while you are on state-property did you understand?
 
vengence said:
http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/spy-at-harrington-high.html

All doubt is removed, heads should roll.
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Just in case no one figured it out, I live there and this does not surprise me in the least. Not the spying shit, but the lack of any sort of management to keep it a secret. The evidence on them is so damnin and so public, one would say, "wtf did you think would happen?". They might as well have fingered little girls in the middle of Market Street and made a youtube video about it.
 
Were I a student there, my first action would be taking a semi-nude cam shot of myself and using it as my desktop.
 
Methadras said:
That would have been considered tampering or jailbreaking state-issued equipment.
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LOL, Yea probably.

Two things come to mind here. First: I'd have the Vice principal arrested under peeping tom laws as he would have had to been violating those laws to see my child eating Mike and Ike's in his bedroom.

Second: I'm am the admin of my home network, and NO devices get on my network without my say so, so if my kids come home and say "Dad I have to use the school provided laptop, and can't use my own, and you can't jailbreak it", well, let's just say I'd be down at the school in about 3 seconds returning that laptop to the school and explaining to them in no uncertain terms that if my kids personal laptop was going to be confiscated, they would have much larger problems. Public schools can't be dictating you have to use their laptops, and not one supplied by the parent. If they don't want MY device on THEIR network, FINE, I can work around that issue.

Depending on their response, I'd probably hack the damn thing, and then REALLY drop the hammer on them.
 
Bohica69 said:
LOL, Yea probably.

Two things come to mind here. First: I'd have the Vice principal arrested under peeping tom laws as he would have had to been violating those laws to see my child eating Mike and Ike's in his bedroom.

Second: I'm am the admin of my home network, and NO devices get on my network without my say so, so if my kids come home and say "Dad I have to use the school provided laptop, and can't use my own, and you can't jailbreak it", well, let's just say I'd be down at the school in about 3 seconds returning that laptop to the school and explaining to them in no uncertain terms that if my kids personal laptop was going to be confiscated, they would have much larger problems. Public schools can't be dictating you have to use their laptops, and not one supplied by the parent. If they don't want MY device on THEIR network, FINE, I can work around that issue.

Depending on their response, I'd probably hack the damn thing, and then REALLY drop the hammer on them.
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I agree with you. Unfortunately, when your child enters the confines of a state run school, he/she are in effect property or wards of the state for a certain a time. Therefore over time what has happened is that the state believes that their influence on your child extends 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and if they issue school laptops to them, even more so. It's almost like they believe that they are in essence officers of the law and that whenever they activate their property regardless of where it is, then whatever they see would fall under the purview of 'In plain sight' laws. It's bizarre. I've never seen anything like this before in my life. This is bad. Very bad and I suspect that this is a concerted effort that these people have been planning for a long, long time.
 
necrosis said:
As much as that blog post gives info on how the kids were spied on. His other post (http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2010/02/technology-behind-school-spying.html) makes me want to punch him in the face.

ARD's point is NOT TO SPY but remotely administer large amounts of Apple computers easily. The apple techs where I work used it to control, install, and upgrade over 600 computers.

"Think Spyware"? Fuck off.
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It is spyware. That's how it's used. That's how it was used. No?
 
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