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The CPU's are pretty much equivalent. The issue really is the platform, X58 vs P55.
Yeah that's what I want to know I can afford both but not sure which will be better! Only about 100 Euros between both. I like the Idea that the x58 has dual x16 for GPU, But the P55 is newer technology.
Oh, I hadn't heard about a price cut. How much less?The Gulftown processors will actually sell for less than $1000 . . .
For what quantifiable reason, though?. . . and the X58 platform is considered the upper tier enthusiast platform, while the P55 is the mainstream.
Oh, I hadn't heard about a price cut. How much less?
For what quantifiable reason, though?
Oh, I hadn't heard about a price cut. How much less?
For what quantifiable reason, though?
Not a price cut. As with the release of every major CPU line or architecture, Intel will usually release a $1000 Extreme Edition CPU. Usually 3 to 6 months later, thats when Intel will release the mainstream versions of that CPU line. Just take a look at Intel's CPU releases for the past 3 years or so.
Two main reasons why the X58 is the upper tier enthusiast platform:
- X58 chipset has enough PCI-E lanes for x16/x16 CF/SLI. The P55 chipset, at best, supports a max of x8/x8 CF/SLI.
- The X58 chipset has support for 6 RAM slots which means more RAM for those who need it, like an enthusiast
- Compatibility with Gulftown CPUs
Totally forgot about these reasons!
Looks like a X58 for me then
I am looking at the GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 with a h50 but i see that the Asus already support the new 32nm chips maybe a ASUS RAMPAGE 2 EXTREME
eventually p55 will also get 32nm cpus like gulftown
Hmm, I thought the i7-965, i7-940 and i7-920 were released in unison? That's the reason I was thinking Gulftown would remain Extreme for a year or so. If that were so, it didn't seem reasonable to buy a current motherboard/CPU setup for a supposed "drop-in" upgrade two years from now. Of course, I might be totally wrong, here.Not a price cut. As with the release of every major CPU line or architecture, Intel will usually release a $1000 Extreme Edition CPU. Usually 3 to 6 months later, thats when Intel will release the mainstream versions of that CPU line. Just take a look at Intel's CPU releases for the past 3 years or so.
TechSpot said:The Core i7 965 Extreme Edition runs at 3.20GHz and features a QPI (QuickPath Interface) throughput of 6.4GT/s, which is the key difference here. The mainstream versions of the processor include the Core i7 920 and 940, clocked at 2.66GHz and 2.93GHz, respectively.
Yes, these are the reasons I have seen. Edited for counting errors.Danny Bui said:Three main reasons why the X58 is the upper tier enthusiast platform:
- X58 chipset has enough PCI-E lanes for x16/x16 CF/SLI. The P55 chipset, at best, supports a max of x8/x8 CF/SLI.
- The X58 chipset has support for 6 RAM slots which means more RAM for those who need it, like an enthusiast
- Compatibility with Gulftown CPUs
No, I was wrong here. Could have sworn that the i7 series were released in Intel's normal fashion. I was thinking of Intel's Core 2 lines. My mistake.Hmm, I thought the i7-965, i7-940 and i7-920 were released in unison? That's the reason I was thinking Gulftown would remain Extreme for a year or so. If that were so, it didn't seem reasonable to buy a current motherboard/CPU setup for a supposed "drop-in" upgrade two years from now. Of course, I might be totally wrong, here.
While yes, there is little real world difference between those two setups, if that enthusiast is gonna spend the cash for two video cards, more than likely he'll want the best option that'll make sure he's getting the most amount of performance from those cards. And that option will be the X58. It is a bit similar to the X48 VS P45 debate but the debates are still different enough.- Is X8/X8 CF really less "enthusiastic" than X16/X16? LOL. Reviews seem to indicate that it matters very little. It seems a little remniscent of the older X48 vs. P45 discussions. Again, I could be wrong.
Well the main reason why many i7 920/LGA 1366 don't have more than 6GB of RAM is that current RAM prices are somewhat high. More than likely they'll wait until DDR3 prices lower before upgrading to 12GB or even 24GB of RAM. If just gaming with a single GPU, yes more than likely a LGA 1156 setup would be enough. However, at least in the General Hardware subforum, you do see a ton of guys who spend waay too much on a I7 860/P55 setup that costs about the same as a Core i7 920/X58 setup or a small price difference of $50 or so. At that point, there's very very little reason to go with a i7 860/P55 setup when a Core i7/X58 is roughly the same price or not that much more but offers more RAM, more PCI-E bandwidth, and the possibility of six-core CPU support.- Now, the 6 RAM slots is actually a really good point. But you don't see most 1366/920 users running more than 8GB of RAM, and if not for the stigma of being "mainstream", I think many of these users would have been fine with 1156. It just comes down to what's important to you, I guess.
I would expect a cheaper 6-core roughly 4-6 months after the initial Gulftown release judging from the past C2D/C2Q releases.- I guess I will deflect this until I know for sure what happened with the i7-965 release. I honestly might be mistaken, there. If the three processors were released together, I don't think we should expect to see another cheaper 6-core for some time. And by then, as they say, we will all be in the same boat.
I am looking at the GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 with a h50 but i see that the Asus already support the new 32nm chips maybe a ASUS RAMPAGE 2 EXTREME
I would expect a cheaper 6-core roughly 4-6 months after the initial Gulftown release judging from the past C2D/C2Q releases.
Well dammit I caved. Just picked up the 920 @ MC.
Now the buyer remorse is setting in. I'm thinking I should have grabbed the 860, as I don't see myself going with more than one GPU for a while ..... but it is nice to have the option.
My main goal is to be able to run one of these at 4GHz, with a Corsair H50 in push-pull config. I had thought the 920 was the better rout to 4GHz, but it looks like people aren't having too much issue getting the 860's to run at that level ...... and run a bit cooler to boot.
Should I flip the 920 and go grab an 860?
That upgrade bug is a vicious beast, is it not?
No way. My point was just that the two processors (and chip sets) are different iterations of very similar parts; not that one is inherently better. It's definitely not worth the trouble of swapping, and I'd say there's no reason for remorse, either.Should I flip the 920 and go grab an 860?
Should I flip the 920 and go grab an 860?
As others have said, no way. The 920 at Microcenter is about the best deal you can get. And the X58 boards are cheaper now as well, so enjoy.
Thanks guys, I'm feeling a bit more comfortable with my decision.
That upgrade bug is a vicious beast, is it not?