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After a brief delay the Ares I-X launched successfully earlier today. Almost $450M for a two minute flight and, most people involved would agree, the information we get from this is well worth it.
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we have a link about some stupid dance, here on the front page forum, but no Ares 1-X link?
Almost $450M for a two minute flight
I'm glad I don't pay tax in the US![]()
I would rather my tax dollars give a boost to NASA's budget and not companies like AIG, GM and such.
Only thing that bugs me is that this will almost certainly be a waste. Not one single scientific body in all of NASA or the world at large see's the Ares program ever being completed. This demonstration was just a glorious display of wishful thinking, but the budgetary money is simply not there to recreate the apollo program all over again. The only way we're getting back to the moon, or more importantly mars, is another super-charged infusion of cash a'la space race. While there may not be anybody interested in racing us anywhere, we need that kind of drive to get our space program back into high gear. The only way we're ever getting to Mars is on a nuclear rocket, and that would require a completely new propulsion design, which means lots of money funding totally new technology. The Iraq war could have paid for this, along with the bailouts... Thats two missed opportunities, how sad..
Only thing that bugs me is that this will almost certainly be a waste. Not one single scientific body in all of NASA or the world at large see's the Ares program ever being completed. This demonstration was just a glorious display of wishful thinking, but the budgetary money is simply not there to recreate the apollo program all over again. The only way we're getting back to the moon, or more importantly mars, is another super-charged infusion of cash a'la space race. While there may not be anybody interested in racing us anywhere, we need that kind of drive to get our space program back into high gear. The only way we're ever getting to Mars is on a nuclear rocket, and that would require a completely new propulsion design, which means lots of money funding totally new technology. The Iraq war could have paid for this, along with the bailouts... Thats two missed opportunities, how sad..
Almost $450M for a two minute flight
The cost for the space shuttle launch is the same. Even if they didn't get there wish to do everything they want like going to Mars. They need to replace the space shuttle with something. I would have thought that a one time launch of a non reusable rocket would have been cheaper though?
Almost $450M for a two minute flight
The cost for the space shuttle launch is the same. Even if they didn't get there wish to do everything they want like going to Mars. They need to replace the space shuttle with something. I would have thought that a one time launch of a non reusable rocket would have been cheaper though?
do you REALLY trust the russians and their old as hell Soyuz to do all the heavy lifting? i mean...REALLY?![]()
I view this more as a move by NASA to say "YES WE CAN" to the boys in DC, sadly, Obama is reviewing our manned spaceflight plans and will probably axe the program, which will be stupid and childish. NASA has created some great technologies in their time and has been a part of the US for a long time.
I hope that Obama doesn't axe the Ares rocket, doing so would make me loose what little faith i have in him as a leader, and i already don't approve of him running the country.
China has already announced it wants to send a man to the moon, and will do it , question is, will the US care?
Looks like its going slow but I think that is a sonic boom you see forming at the nose. Cool stuff.
Lame, posting about the Ares rocket instead of dancing MIT students.
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China has already announced it wants to send a man to the moon, and will do it , question is, will the US care?
The Soyuz is a good rocket, but lacks the lifting strenght to even build the ISS, that heavy lifting was done by the shuttle, which was decent at low earth orbit.
Has the Soyuz been used to deliver anything more than people or supplies?
I want to see footage of the sepa... error or failure is just a great achievment.
Has the Soyuz been used to deliver anything more than people or supplies?
Vodka. mmm
Bruce will be most pleased...
what can I say, the space program is one of my greatest inspirations, and the lack of coverage/care from most of the population, let alone a tech site, disgusts me...
I suppose not being a rocket expert makes me not qualified to pass an opinion, but I will anyway or else what the fuck is a forum for.
Why ARES when DIRECT (wikipedia is your friend if you don't know what this is) makes more sense ?? Maybe I'm just uninformed, but comparing the two it seems readily apparent and obvious except one gives NASA a TON of money and obviously a lot of others jobs on the tax payer dime. Seems like incentive to me to down play a cheaper better way to go. I'm usually pretty independent, usually lean more left, but shit this type of apparent blatant waste makes me bat-shit crazy. I guess if you know enough about NASA there just appears to be a ton of pet projects and other bullshit in the way of real progress. We need TWO separate rockets? ARES V looks like a huge expense compared to finding ways to expand on currently existing, shown "safe", and proven otherwise technology.
Call me crazy I guess.
Why ARES when DIRECT (wikipedia is your friend if you don't know what this is) makes more sense
I wish i could find the space.com article that cited a bunch of studies but i can't
In short the Orion spacecraft was designed to launch on the Ares 1-X and V rocket motors, to use commercial scale rockets (which a few have blown up recently after liftoff) would cost around $25 billion dollars to retro fit the orion capsule to the commercial rockets. However changin to the commercial rocket would say like $30 billion - the retrofit.
So to save $5 - 10 billion at this point simply isn't worth scrapping the ares project, at least not in my opinion.
what can I say, the space program is one of my greatest inspirations, and the lack of coverage/care from most of the population, let alone a tech site, disgusts me...