thanakornl
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Buying fom provantage wat rev. N manufacture date you got?
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Pretty much every LCD I've ever used has done that when brightness is lowered.I was afraid for this sound production. 3 times i heard it with a samsung 2443bw...and i returned it!
I cant accept it because its super silent in my room and i hear high freq sound very good...
Can others confirm the noise?
To bad HP...joining the samsung club with sound production out of a DISPLAY!
I'm getting used to the saturation a lot faster than I thought I would. Either that, or the monitor is warmed up completely now.
I've got it mounted on my Space Arm now, and watched Bangkok Dangerous standard DVD in Media Center, the scaled video looks as good if not better than the 20WMGX2 (probably due to the matte finish).
I'm not noticing many problems with saturation. Had a few cases where I worked with photographs in Photoshop and Windows displays the colors a bit differently. Other than that, no issues. Quite happy with the monitor.
I'm getting used to the saturation a lot faster than I thought I would. Either that, or the monitor is warmed up completely now.
I've got it mounted on my Space Arm now, and watched Bangkok Dangerous standard DVD in Media Center, the scaled video looks as good if not better than the 20WMGX2 (probably due to the matte finish).
vick, you gotta get some side by side comparison pics for me. I also own a 20WMGX2 and I'm considering the HP but the wide gamut thing is keeping me from pulling the trigger. I love the NEC but 20" is a bit small now.
Thats exactly the reason i want colormanagement correct in photoshop AND windows
That's where Windows 7 comes into play...
Sorry, the NEC is back in it's box. The wide gamut thing is ot bugging me like I thought it would, once you use the settings on TFT Central it tones down the worst of it. The worst problem I have coming from the NEC is the matte finish, I'm just not used to it sometimes I think the screen is dusty.
It truly is a worthy upgrade to the NEC though, no doubt about it.
Tell me more. I can run W7 if i want, but IF its all good managed for the colors, i have to turn to a argb monitor. If W7 is still crap with colormanagement i decide for a srgb screen...
So bring it up
"At WinHEC 2008 Microsoft announced that color depths of 30-bit and 48-bit would be supported in Windows 7 along with the wide color gamut scRGB (which for HDMI 1.3 can be converted and output as xvYCC). The video modes supported in Windows 7 are 16-bit sRGB, 24-bit sRGB, 30-bit sRGB, 30-bit with extended color gamut sRGB, and 48-bit scRGB."
I too used to own a 20wmgx2 and with the glossy panel it made things look oversaturated on the NEC and it only has a standard gamut....
I couldn't imagine buying a wide gamut ips, colors would look like you're watching cartoons on acid...which is why I ordered the 22inch dell IPS. I should have waited for the 23inch LG IPS from this link though:
http://www.displayblog.com/2009/01/28/lg-display-lpl-23-e-ips-1080p-lcd-monitor-panel/
Has anyone bought one of these direct from HP? I'm wondering if they have newer stock. Also, they have refurbs available for $499 with a 1 year warranty - which seems almost decent.
Those screenshots look good but I don't think wallpaper is a good way to judge a monitor. I could take a SRGB panel and put a bunch of wallpaper on it, turn digital vibrance up to like 25% and take pictures, people would think it looks good but if you actually used the monitor for regular things it would be awful heh.
The OP mentioned that these screenshots were taken after the settings were adjusted (but before hardware calibration). The wallpaper is certainly not the only way to judge a monitor's image quality, but it does show how monitor viewing angles, colors, white levels, and vibrance vary amongst the two monitors. You can't really display what a monitor looks like for "regular things" and everday use with a photo taken by a camera. You have to see that with your own (two) eyes.
Yea, you can see contrast ratio, viewing angles, and white point, but wide gamut doesn't look detrimental when all you're viewing is ocean sunsets that are already neon colored in the first place. You gotta view a picture of skin tones and stuff that isn't supposed to be neon colored to know if the wide gamut will drive you crazy or not.
I don't think the OP was trying to show the monitor's wide gamut effects. As for me, the wide gamut doesn't bother me at all. Especially because I have my monitor calibrated properly and toned the reds down for XP. I've only noticed oversaturation in reds once or twice since I've started using the monitor.
The best way to tell if the wide gamut bothers you or not is to take a look at the monitor in person. Images won't tell you the entire story. I'm using Windows 7 (in addition to XP) which solves the wide gamut issue that I've only come across once or twice anyway.
What about the text vick, what about the text? The input lag is a tad higher than the 20WMGX2 right?
Customer: I'm not sure if I've forgotten my password, can you tell me if I have?
Support: OK, I can help. What is the password you are trying to enter?
Customer: I don't know.
Support: Then yes, I would say you have forgotten it.
Proper calibration will allow the monitor to represent sRGB colours perfectly accurately and "fix" the wide gamut "problem" contrary to what many people are arguing. Yes, this only works in colour managed apps, if you don't like the saturation in non-managed apps, turn it down. Every modern graphics card (including laptops) lets you do this. For those who complain about this method being "inaccurate", you're using a non-colour managed app, it was never going to be accurate in the first place.
I know many people argue a standard sRGB monitor will be "more accurate" and easier to use if you want everything as sRGB - I do acknowledge this point. You'll need to muck around less with the settings and it'll be closer without calibration. If, and only if, all you ever do will be sRGB, and colour accuracy is not an issue for you. *Points at gamers*.