ZOTAC GeForce 9300-ITX WiFi

Syphon Filter said:
Whilst this board may be fine I highly doubt that an Atom based system can decode HD videos
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CrimandEvil said:
The 9400 IGP supports hardware acceleration of H264 content; the 945G that the Atom is gimped with is just barely enough to do acceptable acceleration of DVDs. That's why most Atom systems struggle with HD content.
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What he said :p While just about ANY Atom (or single core CPU or sub-2GHz CPU in general) is unable to properly decode HD content (though it seems the 1.6GHz Atom can handle some 720p streams with the right software), new generation chipsets (Pulsbo, G(M)45, 9x00) have logic in them that allows (using PowerDVD, or similar software), that decode to be offloaded to the IGP, leaving the CPU free to handle general system duties (like Blu-Ray key decoding, if present).

Syphon Filter said:
Another issue though is I cant find a UK (r)etailer that sells Zotac boards, plenty of people selling Zotac graphics cards but not the boards...will have to google a little harder!
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Try talking to a Zotac PR. I managed to get hold of one over at SPCR via PM, and he's been VERY forthcoming with help - one of which being the lack of portuguese distributors for the Zotac brand in general.

Cheers.

Miguel
 
I hear mini-itx.com is considering them, so if you want them to stock them now is the time to tell them!
 
Meaker said:
I hear mini-itx.com is considering them, so if you want them to stock them now is the time to tell them!
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E-mail sent to mini-ITX.com.

Thank you for the heads-up, I sure hope they will have it on stock. It's difficult enough to get Zotac products in Portugal (they're apparently trying to get that fixed, though), so hopefully there will be at least one store that ships internationally capable of delivering it to this country... Sad I have to pay 50% more that what I would have paid here, though...

Cheers.

Miguel
 
I e-mailed mini-ITX.com as well

mini-ITX.com said:
Thanks for your email. We do intend to stock this board. We are waiting for a sample unit before production starts.

We try to reasonably price everything but are at the mercy of the GBP/USD exchange rate.

Hopefully once the boards are ready the GBP will be a little stronger!
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Will the "Hybrid SLI" feature of this Zotac mobo. work with my EVGA GTX260-216?

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Never mind. The GTX260-216 won't even fit on that board.
 
IsLNdbOi said:
Will the "Hybrid SLI" feature of this Zotac mobo. work with my EVGA GTX260-216?
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No, HybridSLI is for low-end cards only (8400/8500). You might be thinking about GeForce Boost, which powers down the dedicated GPU, but NVIDIA dropped the feature on the 9000 series mGPU chipsets.

IsLNdbOi said:
Never mind. The GTX260-216 won't even fit on that board.
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Sure it will. The 9300-ITX has a full-speed, full-lenght PCIe 2.0 16x slot, so I can't think of any reason why that wouldn't fit.

Granted, just about ANY decent GPU will hang from the board on two dimentions (more likely, the board will attach to the GPU, not the other way around... lol), but that doesn't mean you can't use it... It does, however, seem odd to use such a big GPU on such a small motherboard, which is, by definition, made to fit very tight spaces, but it IS doable, and my guess is that a custom-made case would make many people laugh, and then gawk, at a LAN (like "Look, that guy with that tiny little case thinks he has enough GPU power to play!", and then they look at the specs... hehehehe)

Cheers.

Miguel


P.S.: Seriously, this would be some KICK-A$$ combo. I'm actually imagining how it would look like... *Drools*
 
The GTX260-216 is two slots wide. The wifi card on the board is right next to the PCIe 16x slot.

I'd be willing to give the GTX260-216 up though and trade it in for a single slot 1GB 9800GT and this board.
 
IsLNdbOi said:
The GTX260-216 is two slots wide. The wifi card on the board is right next to the PCIe 16x slot.
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So what the WiFi card is right next to the PEG slot? The WiFi card still sits on the backplate area, and no GPU I know of invades the backplate area...

The GPU (the second slot, that is) will instead hang below the PEG slot, ather the board ends. And to the front too :p The only thing that might be a problem is the header right next to the edge of the slot, but I'm guessing that's not really a big problem.

Cheers.

Miguel
 
It looks like the wifi card is a small card that sits right next to the PCIe slot, right in the space where the dual slot card would be sitting..

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Oh yeah, cards hang down the other way. Nevermind. :p
 
IsLNdbOi said:
Oh yeah, cards hang down the other way. Nevermind. :p
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I figured you might be confusing the orientation. Though I don't blame you, with stuff that small, it becomes hard to know what goes where, and how... :confused:

So, it seems you don't need to trade your GTX after all... ;)

Cheers.

Miguel
 
man..that's a sick motherboard. I think i'll be getting one of those

Next i just need to find a case that'll fit a buff card.
anyone got any ideas? I was thinking of modding an Apex MI-100, just a thought though right now.
 
Isn't there still the problem of getting a PSU that can power a beefy card along with all the other components?

If I'm not mistaken, you can't use a standard ATX PSU with the SG05.
 
I am going to use a seasonic 350 watt sfx psu on my build. Q9400, 4850, 1tb hdd, 2x2gb ddr2 800, a few case fans, and maybe a disk drive. It is about the quality of the psu.
 
IsLNdbOi said:
Isn't there still the problem of getting a PSU that can power a beefy card along with all the other components?

If I'm not mistaken, you can't use a standard ATX PSU with the SG05.
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I'm not sure of any of it. It's a case that I'm looking at for a build I'm going to sneak in on my wife to replace her old Soltek QBic. If I could find a board/PSU for that old case, I'd redo it. It is gorgeous.
 
That setup is dripping with win. Is the SG05 available anywhere yet? ETA?
 
ryero said:
Next i just need to find a case that'll fit a buff card.
anyone got any ideas? I was thinking of modding an Apex MI-100, just a thought though right now.
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I'm doing the same thing. Right now I've got a dual core Atom in my MI-100, but when this comes out, I'm going to throw it in there with a 9600 GT Green Edition, which will hopefully be out as well. If not, I'll have to see what kind of power consumption this thing does. Maybe a 55nm 9800 GT would work out :D

I've also got an AOpen S150 that would go perfectly with this and a low profile 9500 GT
 
Wow. Care to give us a link or the name of the store?

I see SilenX has a 400W SFX PSU, but it's not 80 Plus certified.
 
I hope they release a silver version of the SG05 too. Anyone know if there are any Shuttles that have a Hybrid-SLI capable motherboard?
 
Well, that Sugo case is just about as small as you can possibly go with enough space for a full-lenght GPU and still managing to squeeze an ODD and at least one 3.5'' HDD...

There might be possible to shift the SFX PSU and loose the ODD, but it might get cramped and with odd airflow...

Btw, as far as I can see, the SG05 is not mini-ITX, it's mini-DTX (which is fine, really, that means a double-slot GPU can be used on mini-ITX boards :p).

You can always build your own case, you know? Sure, it will be more expensive, but that way you can make it just the size you want it, and no more.

Cheers.

Miguel
 
I hope these case manufacturers start bringing out many more mITX cases. The only mITX cases I'd even consider right now are the PSile and the Antec Skeleton Mini and those two cases have their own limitations such as the special PSU you have to use with the PSile and the half-height expansion card limit of the Skeleton Mini.
 
That sg05 is just what I was looking for. It's got me thinking about modding it out and putting a 4870x2 with a supplementary psu for it.
 
So are there any SFX PSUs that can power this board with the max amount of RAM it can take, a quad core CPU, high end video card (like the GTX295) and the board's onboard GPU, Raptor SATA hard drive and optical drive?
 
IsLNdbOi said:
So are there any SFX PSUs that can power this board with the max amount of RAM it can take, a quad core CPU, high end video card (like the GTX295) and the board's onboard GPU, Raptor SATA hard drive and optical drive?
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You're kidding, right? lol

A motherboard, quad, HDD and ODD combo will almost top out most regular SFF PSUs (generally speaking, not only SFX), which are usuall sub-300W, especially if you want to OC it a little. You might be able to squeeze a low-power (a.k.a. sub-75W, no PCIE connector) GPU, or even a 125W one, IF the PSU is really good on the 12V line (if not, it would probably not last much).

The only way I can think of that one working is with at least a 450W PSU (difficult to find on SFX, if not even impossible, due to thermal constraints) with a REALLY good 12V line (or lines), a 65W Quad (AMD "e" series or Intel "S" series, or a really good undervolter, if you don't want to cough up the extra $110 for voltage-binning), and NO OC. And that might even be pushing it a little too far... Do try to use 5V-only drives, to ease the load on the 12V rail (3.5'' ODDs are horrible for this line, power draw is HUGE, especially when powering up).

Btw, if you can find something like that, DO tell... hehehe

Cheers.

Miguel
 
I've got to be kidding?

I had a Shuttle SP35P2 and stuffed it with:

G0 Q6600
8800GT
Theater 650 TV Tuner
8GB RAM
300GB Raptor
160GB Raptor
DVD Burner

and it ran flawlessly with its 80 Plus, 400W, irregularly-shaped PSU.
 
__Miguel_ said:
A motherboard, quad, HDD and ODD combo will almost top out most regular SFF PSUs (generally speaking, not only SFX), which are usuall sub-300W, especially if you want to OC it a little. You might be able to squeeze a low-power (a.k.a. sub-75W, no PCIE connector) GPU, or even a 125W one, IF the PSU is really good on the 12V line (if not, it would probably not last much).
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Excuse me? Sparkle SPI270LE, 270W FLEX-ATX (smaller than SFX) PSU can handle a Q9300 and 4850. I wouldn't trust it long-term, but it got me through a UT3 session with some friends. (It's also ridiculously loud, since it's only a 40mm fan.) That PSU is rated for 18A/216W combined between 2x 12V rails. If they made a 350W version with 280W on the 12V subset, I'm 95% sure I could (very carefully) build a system with a stock 920.

People DRASTICALLY overestimate their power needs. An entire system, built around an i7 and 4850 at stock speeds, needs only 300W of clean, 12V power and a little bit on the minor rails- an Antec EarthWatts 380W can handle that.
 
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