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Test upon Intel Core i7

Nice!!

Thanks for the post. Definatly looking forward to this processor, will certainly be building the new system around one!:D
 
except for gaming.

Yes, an earlier preview concluded the same, but said that the motherboard/chipset weren't running at maximum efficiency yet.
I wonder if that is still the case... or if some things are actually slower with an IMC (I know that AGP texturing was slower on Athlon64s than on Pentiums because they had to do it through the CPU rather than directly through the chipset, but I'm not sure if what we're seeing is something similar).

Ofcourse the code for videocard drivers and games hasn't been recompiled/optimized for the Nehalem architecture yet either, so that too might still hold some improvements.

Somehow I find it hard to imagine that a CPU that is basically as good as a Core2 or better at everything else, would have performance problems in games (but not all games, because Half-Life 2 seems to run well, as do games that benefit greatly from multithreading).
 
except for gaming.
Yeah Intel is gonna take a break this cycle from being the industry leading gaming CPU. Afterall we need all this extra performance for Word documents. :rolleyes:

Seriously though. Once drivers are optimised to take advantage of these new CPUs there will be some incredible numbers coming from the i7's. AMD will just be watching from the sidelines with their mouths gaped open.:eek:
 
I think this chip is not designed for gaming, the current performance is due to it has way more raw power than C2Q.
 
I think this chip is not designed for gaming, the current performance is due to it has way more raw power than C2Q.
The C2D wasn't designed for gaming neccessarily either was it? It just turned out that it had enough raw power to really push games. Once more games come out that take advantage of multiple cores is when you will start to see huge gains. Truth is that games could be much more complex than they are now. Game devs just need to push current technologies harder. I believe that once Nehalem is finally close to release and drivers come out that fully support the Nehalem's advanced architecture you will be blown away with the performance. From a bandwidth perspective the i7 will be just incredible.
 
oooh!!!, ooooh!!!, please!, please !, quick someone tell me where I can buy a "gaming" cpu for my PC. I have a gaming mouse and a gaming LCD and a gaming keyboard but need the gaming cpu to match.
 
oooh!!!, ooooh!!!, please!, please !, quick someone tell me where I can buy a "gaming" cpu for my PC. I have a gaming mouse and a gaming LCD and a gaming keyboard but need the gaming cpu to match.
I know you're being sarcastic, but the funneh thing is that Intel will be releasing a batch of gaming CPU's based on the Nehalem architecture that will actually include additional cores based on the Larrabee tech. I dunno how excited I am about this cause all I see it doing is helping give SFF PC's beefier graphics without having to cram some huge hulking graphics card in there. I don't see this being huge in the normal PC market though.
 
Seriously though. Once drivers are optimised to take advantage of these new CPUs there will be some incredible numbers coming from the i7's. AMD will just be watching from the sidelines with their mouths gaped open.

You think. We won't know until Intel and AMD both release their new stuff. I for one am very interested in AMDs next stuff since it's supposed to have been designed from the ground up.
 
oooh!!!, ooooh!!!, please!, please !, quick someone tell me where I can buy a "gaming" cpu for my PC. I have a gaming mouse and a gaming LCD and a gaming keyboard but need the gaming cpu to match.

I know you're trying to be funny but youre not.
People buy application specific CPU's all the time. Some CPU's are better at multimedia, some are better at database and virtualization, etc.

I can just imagine people going ZOMG Nehelam pwns everything! And then they get the same FPS in crapsys or whatever flavor of the month game is around compared to their old setup.
 
You think. We won't know until Intel and AMD both release their new stuff. I for one am very interested in AMDs next stuff since it's supposed to have been designed from the ground up.

Which one ? Bulldozer ? That's 2010 at best.
 
You think. We won't know until Intel and AMD both release their new stuff. I for one am very interested in AMDs next stuff since it's supposed to have been designed from the ground up.
We'll see. The reason I doubt that AMD has anything ground breaking is because I have not heard of anything coming. If AMD had something that could even match the Nehalem we would already be hearing about it. AMD would try to hurt the launch of Intel's next badboy by releasing or leaking info about new tech coming down the pipes. So far all I have seen is this whole "Fusion" software thing. Other than that I see nothing to make me think AMD has some monster CPU coming.
 
I know you're trying to be funny but youre not.
People buy application specific CPU's all the time. Some CPU's are better at multimedia, some are better at database and virtualization, etc.

I can just imagine people going ZOMG Nehelam pwns everything! And then they get the same FPS in crapsys or whatever flavor of the month game is around compared to their old setup.
Well compared to the setup in my sig my i7 based system will pretty much rape it. I am sure it will be like night and day.
 
The C2D wasn't designed for gaming neccessarily either was it? It just turned out that it had enough raw power to really push games. Once more games come out that take advantage of multiple cores is when you will start to see huge gains. Truth is that games could be much more complex than they are now. Game devs just need to push current technologies harder. I believe that once Nehalem is finally close to release and drivers come out that fully support the Nehalem's advanced architecture you will be blown away with the performance. From a bandwidth perspective the i7 will be just incredible.

Well, that's not the case at all, when C2D first came out we saw MAJOR improvement. That's not the case for i7. Now I don't know when Intel designed C2D with game performance in mind or not, but the end result were there, you just can't say the same with i7 other than lots of "would" and "could". Of course it's not out, but I don't think we will see something like 20% improvement from this bench to the retail ones .
 
Which one ? Bulldozer ? That's 2010 at best.

i7 stuff isn't really going to start coming out until next year. So yes, that's a year before AMD and yes, Intel can make changes before then, but considering I don't plan on a major system upgrade until 2010-2011, I am not all that interested in Core i7. I am much more interested in what Intel is going to be putting out in 2010-2011 to try and best AMD.
 
The "poor" gaming performance is probably due to incomplete drivers and/or BIOS. I'm sure once ATi/nVidia release drivers that support the i7 performance will be what we would expect.
 
i7 stuff isn't really going to start coming out until next year. So yes, that's a year before AMD and yes, Intel can make changes before then, but considering I don't plan on a major system upgrade until 2010-2011, I am not all that interested in Core i7. I am much more interested in what Intel is going to be putting out in 2010-2011 to try and best AMD.

Westmere , 6 core shrink of Nehalem with 512KB L2 per core IIRC is due in late 09/early 2010.

Late 2010 is Sandy Bridge , a new uarch designed by Intel Israel ( same people who created Pentium M , C2D ).
 
No. Trying to show off your e-peen? Have a hidden i7 rig?
I was saying that my sig rig is pretty bad compared to what the i7 is going to be. The difference should be huge. Now your machine is much better than mine. There would be much less of a difference in performance going from your machine to an i7. That is what I am saying. My e-peen is very small at the moment. I will be building a brand new machine when the i7's become available. That is all I am saying.
 
So these chips should hit market in Nov?
Hopefully. They were supposed to be released at the end of September, but that ain't happening. They pushed it back to November last I heard.
 
I was saying that my sig rig is pretty bad compared to what the i7 is going to be. The difference should be huge. Now your machine is much better than mine. There would be much less of a difference in performance going from your machine to an i7. That is what I am saying. My e-peen is very small at the moment. I will be building a brand new machine when the i7's become available. That is all I am saying.

I was talking about the article, not our rigs.
 
I was talking about the article, not our rigs.
Yeah I have read the article and others that have said that Nehalem's are not going to be some huge jump in performance for games. I knew that much already. Bigger jumps need to be made on the GPU end before huge jumps need to be made on the CPU end. That said however the i7's will not be slower than current super high end QX machines in games. They will absolutely be better. Not by much maybe in current games, but newer and future games they will be for sure. All the articles make mention of this. I just need a nice new machine cause I still haven't made the jump to a quad core machine and I deal with alot of HD video editing/encoding. It would be nice to have a giant jump in performance from that perspective. I figured why screw up my upgrade path by choosing another s775 machine when I could move to an LGA1366 machine and open up my upgrade options. The cost doesn't seem too great to get into an i7 machine. Especially not when the slowest i7 will outperform the fastest QX you can currently buy.
 
No doubt. The further back in time/tech you go, the more of an improvement its going to be. I just find it slightly humorous that so many people who use their primary rigs for games (and have good current gen rigs) are going to expect a quantum leap in performance with this new CPU, they are not.

Ive seen people spout of random crap like 50% better performance...umm, no. Im sure the gaming performance will come up with time as drivers and compiled code take advantage, but not right away. Database and multimedia apps though, look promising immediately.
 
No doubt. The further back in time/tech you go, the more of an improvement its going to be. I just find it slightly humorous that so many people who use their primary rigs for games (and have good current gen rigs) are going to expect a quantum leap in performance with this new CPU, they are not.

Ive seen people spout of random crap like 50% better performance...umm, no. Im sure the gaming performance will come up with time as drivers and compiled code take advantage, but not right away. Database and multimedia apps though, look promising immediately.
Well the numbers for certain apps (not games) could be anywhere from 50-80%. For video crunching for instance the gains could be in that 50-80% range for sure. That is what I am excited about. Multi-threaded apps are going to be the ones that have the best gains. But for games that are still coded primarily toward single threads there will not be huge leaps.
 
Just as I thought i7 doesnt improve gaming that much, look at 3dmarks benchs

What do 3D Mark benches have to do with gaming? The numbers are abstract and are influenced by factors which do not influence gaming performance by all that much.
 
Music production is my primary use (lots of tracks and vst's), so I'm looking forward to this. I like games but anything's going to be a big imovement over my athlon 3000/7800GT.
 
Music production is my primary use (lots of tracks and vst's), so I'm looking forward to this. I like games but anything's going to be a big imovement over my athlon 3000/7800GT.

Same here cept im running a 3700+ and 7800GTX and even Adobe reader sucks up 100% of my CPU when I scroll through pages, its sad.
 
We need linux benchies :)

I want to see Database benchies, kernel compile benchies, etc etc.

Games have been GPU bound for a while now.
 
Yea I agree with the comments in the article "core i7" is the "future".

It's going to take sometime for games and other software to catch up to being able to use 8 - 16 threads and for GPU's to be able to utilize all those threads.

Once that happens even a core 2 quad will become outdated and struggle with the multi-threaded software of the "future". But I still don't see that happening for another year or 2. Until then "core 2" die hard's should be fine.
 
I think I'll see a pretty sharp improvement over my current PC. It is an improvement over C2D as well so it makes sense to me for the next 4-5 years. I've already purchased a case and PSU for my Christmas time Core i7 build. Now i just have to decide whether or not to Watercool it.
 
I believe Intel Core i7 is a very brilliant CPU. The reason why we don't usually see it that way is we have been so familiar with Intel CPU's great power and overclockability. Compare Core i7 with any other CPU at present, it is often the better, but not in games, at lease now.

Core i7 is in its somewhat beta or RC course of the development, so I think further improvements will be done before they get launched.

And mentioning overclocking ability, that site had posted some info.

http://uneit.com/2008/09/24/a-little-test-of-intel-core-i7s-overclockability/


Also, a question bewildering me. Why on earth that everytime we are nearing a big release, infos are always leaked from those Oriental countries. Isn't it the fact Americans designed those?
 
I just find it slightly humorous that so many people who use their primary rigs for games (and have good current gen rigs) are going to expect a quantum leap in performance with this new CPU

Could you provide a source? or link us to some of these people? Because you appear to be flaming phantoms.

(invisible friends :eek:)
 
looking good.. I really wanted to hold out and wait a year or so until the prices came down a bit for DD3, X58, and Core i7 and buy my new PC. My P4 crapped out on me though so I had to rush out and buy a new PC :(
 
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