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Project: Galaxy 4.75
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You guys are really tempting me to buy two and ditch my Lian-Li. I've already been considering a rack for a while. I have some cases ready for a rack, I just need to find one locally as shipping one would be prohibitively expensive. How much should I expect to pay for a 4 post rack (with sides/doors) that's around 21U (I don't need anything larger at the moment)? Also, how hard would it be to find a power distribution unit that has 220v 30A input (I think it actually is a 60A outlet...don't ask why we have something like this in a residential environment 
)? I really need to start a thread of my own...
)? I really need to start a thread of my own...Yes, that would be SAS.Cellphone photo of the HDD connector.
Those extra 7 pins, I assume thats the SAS part?
http://www.ghazkul.com/temp/DSC00030.JPG
EDIT: Sorry about the huge photo
Mine is v1, it has fans on a dedicated PCB too? Thought it was always that way. I don't remember if it was 1 or 2 molexes, but it wasn't 3-pin (the fans were 3 pin, the pcb was a molex to 3pin splitter basically.)
Dedicated PCB for fans, with 1 molex. Fan connectors on backplane have been removed on mine. I just looked over the old photos, and they do indeed have the same dedicated PCB for fans.
So the difference is, no fans on backplane, no separate sas/sata connectors... Going to try to figure out if the actual cable connectors on the backplanes have any extra pins for SAS, i.e,, how this is supposed to work..
You guys are really tempting me to buy two and ditch my Lian-Li. I've already been considering a rack for a while. I have some cases ready for a rack, I just need to find one locally as shipping one would be prohibitively expensive. How much should I expect to pay for a 4 post rack (with sides/doors) that's around 21U (I don't need anything larger at the moment)? Also, how hard would it be to find a power distribution unit that has 220v 30A input (I think it actually is a 60A outlet...don't ask why we have something like this in a residential environment
You should be able to pick a nice one up for about $50-150, keep your eyes peeled for a local deal on craigslist.
Also, so you are seeking L6-30 PDU's? Please let me know, I have 12 of them, I wouldn't mind getting rid of some.
Yep
Most likley just sharing the same meduim. It would have been awesome if they had put a minisas connector on each backplane
It's 250v 50A apparently. That means it can handle nearly 13kW.
After looking it up online, it's a NEMA 6-50R. I don't exactly think this is going to work. Cord is ridiculous in size though. Thicker than my thumb by quite a bit.
Edit: Multimeter says 220v, so it might work after all. My UPS won't though.
It's 250v 50A apparently. That means it can handle nearly 13kW.
After looking it up online, it's a NEMA 6-50R. I don't exactly think this is going to work. Cord is ridiculous in size though. Thicker than my thumb by quite a bit.
Edit: Multimeter says 220v, so it might work after all. My UPS won't though.
Yes, thats a 50 amp plug. You have options, build yourself a mini sub breaker box with 110 outlets. Make a pigtail for it. Swap the recepticle. or Get a 50amp apc pdu (you will need an adapter, but it will work).
Well, 220v isn't a problem. Pretty much all my computer hardware will run on both 110/220. Why even bother with transformers then? I guess I could get an adapter as swapping the outlet is not an option (we actually need a 220v 50A outlet).
Edit: After going to Home Depot, finding such an adapter might be tricky.
To build a "mini sub breaker box" it would need to be a four wire outlet. You need a neutral for a sub panel, or even hanging regular 110 "pigtails" off of it. A three wire hookup like in the picture is two hot leads and a ground, probably was a dryer or stove hookup at one time.
And if you wanted to hook up a sub panel to it for distribution that wouldn't be up to code anyways.
You could check to see if the cable to the outlet is four separate wires, then you could install a sub panel hard wired to it.
We actually put it in for our kiln. The dryer has its own 220v outlet in the laundry. A dryer doesn't need quite as much power either.
I believe the cable is only 3 wires. It was never intended for anything but the kiln. I'm not going to screw around with the wiring as I'll probably kill myself in the process. I'll stick with 220v and just get PDU for it if it comes down to it.
We actually put it in for our kiln. The dryer has its own 220v outlet in the laundry. A dryer doesn't need quite as much power either.
I believe the cable is only 3 wires. It was never intended for anything but the kiln. I'm not going to screw around with the wiring as I'll probably kill myself in the process. I'll stick with 220v and just get PDU for it if it comes down to it.
Well thats good to hear.
But a PDU won't work off it without both a neutral and ground present. So using it probably isn't an option unless it was reconfigured for 110V.
Nor is that outlet to begin with
Actually it's fine until you make a change to it depending on what you're plugging into it.
Electric hot water heaters still don't use a neutral.
Since there are 7 of them?
That case produces _MORE_ noise than a Globalwin FOP-38 (46dba, used to OC 1.2 ghz tbirds
I think I'll try replacing all of them with Noctua fans, almos same CFM, but 21 dba instead of 31.
My RPC4020 is more quite than my main workstation. And neither of them bother me.
Since there are 7 of them?
That case produces _MORE_ noise than a Globalwin FOP-38 (46dba, used to OC 1.2 ghz tbirds
I think I'll try replacing all of them with Noctua fans, almos same CFM, but 21 dba instead of 31.
huh?
Yeah, I don't know where they are getting that it's loud, unless if norco has diffrent fans in each batch. Mine is near silent.
Agreed
Update:
I'm going to try to keep things in this thread. But I have progressed to dismantling galaxy 5.0 and am installing it in a norco case with WHS. It will be an identical setup as galaxy 4.75 but obviously large drives.
The reason I went to WHS is that I can now start adding 1.5tb drives to the array and I'm very satisfied with the performance and functionality. The reason for the norco case, it's part of a larger project that involves 6 galaxy systems with over 110 spinning disks. Also, with the norco case, I can enjoy silence and I can enjoy the flexibility in that I can swap drive from one machine to another.
I will be posting galaxy 5.0 case up for sale shortly and I will start the project of building the next galaxy systems.
I'm going to try to keep things in this thread. But I have progressed to dismantling galaxy 5.0 and am installing it in a norco case with WHS. It will be an identical setup as galaxy 4.75 but obviously large drives.
The reason I went to WHS is that I can now start adding 1.5tb drives to the array and I'm very satisfied with the performance and functionality. The reason for the norco case, it's part of a larger project that involves 6 galaxy systems with over 110 spinning disks.
Also, with the norco case, I can enjoy silence and I can enjoy the flexibility in that I can swap drive from one machine to another.I will be posting galaxy 5.0 case up for sale shortly and I will start the project of building the next galaxy systems.
Yea, it's a very low hum, that's about it. Mine is sitting on the floor about 4 feet from me right now, with my main workstation on the other side of it. And I hear it more than I hear the Norco.
Update:
I'm going to try to keep things in this thread. But I have progressed to dismantling galaxy 5.0 and am installing it in a norco case with WHS. It will be an identical setup as galaxy 4.75 but obviously large drives.
The reason I went to WHS is that I can now start adding 1.5tb drives to the array and I'm very satisfied with the performance and functionality. The reason for the norco case, it's part of a larger project that involves 6 galaxy systems with over 110 spinning disks.
I will be posting galaxy 5.0 case up for sale shortly and I will start the project of building the next galaxy systems.
You're making me think more and more about trying out WHS. I'd really like to know about StarWind running on it though. Maybe I'll have to go download the trial version and give it a test. And I'll hate to see your electric bill with 110 disks online. Do you spin the disks down after inactivity?
Just curious, how much do you expect to sell it for?I will be posting galaxy 5.0 case up for sale shortly and I will start the project of building the next galaxy systems.
Case $600, board $250, ipmi $50, 1280ML $600, both procs $400.
What are the specs/models for those?
Where were you two months ago?
That's quite an endorsement for WHS there. I use it right now with a Media Smart server, but I've maxed out my storage and these worklogs have me gearing up for my next storage project. I am looking at the 8 bay Norco case, that should be sufficient for a while, I'd hope. Not sure if I would use WHS on it though. Do you plan on using the software redundancy? Or would you try to rig in a RAID setup? I think if I am going to go with that much storage, I'd prefer the peace of mind a hardware redundancy would afford me. Then again, I'm a real newbie when it comes to this mass storage server stuff.
Well I have backups, so redundancy wouldn't be an issue for me. If you are buying a bunch of disks of the same size the first time and at once, then you should go with a hardware raid setup. If you think you may add drives based on what comes on sales, then you should look at WHS.
Hmm a backup... that would justify me building two right?
I do like to add drives as I go like I am doing now. How difficult is it to backup a WHS box?
Hmm a backup... that would justify me building two right?
I do like to add drives as I go like I am doing now. How difficult is it to backup a WHS box?
As easy as drag and drop
If you really wanted to be clever, build two WHS boxes, make them each backup automatically upon eachother WHS has a ton of backing up options.[LYL]Homer
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Ockie - since you're talking multiple WHS boxes I have a question. Some will be for backup I imagine, but for other 'primary' WHS servers are you, or is it possible, to span a share across 2 servers? I'm not sure if there would be any advantage to this? Or do you make one server primarily for \\Video\ and another server for \\Photos\, etc.?
Or, on your client pc, do you just have links for 'Shares on SERVER1' and 'Shares on SERVER2'?
Since you're on the cutting edge of all this, it's just making me think toward what the next step is. I'm still down in the ~5tb area on my WHS box, but I can still dream...
Or, on your client pc, do you just have links for 'Shares on SERVER1' and 'Shares on SERVER2'?
Since you're on the cutting edge of all this, it's just making me think toward what the next step is. I'm still down in the ~5tb area on my WHS box, but I can still dream...
[LYL]Homer;1032993424 said:
You could span the sharing, but you will still have multiple boxes. The idea I have is to keep one main box (galaxy 5.0) with top of the line dirives, as I upgrade, I trickle it down to the other boxes... so in concept, I will need two or three norcos to keep up to the capacity of the main rig (which is soon to enjoy a 1.5tb drive selection
I want to see how others are playing with iscsi and how well it works with WHS, that would be the next step IMO.
Update: Bought another norco case and components. Now I just need some UPS's, already found some, just waiting I guess. Pics to come.
Hurry up and test out StarWind on WHS for us, LOL. Doesn't look like anybody else is doing it and I really don't want to build a box just to install the WHS demo to try it.
Can't wait to see the pics. It's going to look like a beast with all that in your rack.
Why do you want to use iSCSI? If you're going to the bother of using StarWind, might as well install WHS on it and build a second server. iSCSI's just going to use up more network bandwidth unless you're going 10GB. If I wanted to expand a system, I'd use eSATA.
iscsi for a centralized mount. mainly just to play with and whs.
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if a drive failed, how would you determine which of the 20 drives is bad?