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SOMEONE JUST TELL ME:
What happened to taxi driver mission, ice cream truck mission, police mission, car training missions, flight school missions and the other missions that you had in gta sa?
Also, how in the hell can i get a gun?
4/10...wow!
I was thinking closer to 8.5, and I'm a pretty big fan, too. I still think it's great, but it just doesn't feel right, and there are lots of technical issues that no reviewers even acknowledged.
This is one of the better sequels I've played and I think most of the hype come from this. People wanting a better GTA got one. If you didn't like previous games in the series there isn't really anything in IV that's going to change your mind.
See the interesting twist for me is that I am a HUGE fan of 3, VC, and SA. I absolutly LOVED those games.
IV is just not doing it for me though, the biggest issue is the clunky controls IMO. That is not a "console" issue as the other GTA games controls were great (I had them for PS2 and Xbox) as are Crackdowns. But IV just is slow and retarded feeling. He never goes where I want him to and I think a baby could crawl faster than he walks.
That, and the boring/no existant side missions are what are annoying me the most. I felt much more into the game in VC and 3, even if the graphics were worse and the gameplay more simplistic.
As far as overhyped, if you cannot see the hype you are blind! Commercials, every store, every street ad, its GTA EVERYWHERE. Halo was probably more hyped, I agree, but I thought the same thing with Halo 3...2 was much better, simplistic, you could get into it (not saying it was the best game of all time, but decent)...3 just lost me and I gave up on it after awhile.
SOMEONE JUST TELL ME:
What happened to taxi driver mission, ice cream truck mission, police mission, car training missions, flight school missions and the other missions that you had in gta sa?
Also, how in the hell can i get a gun?
This is not a flame bait, but just a bit of a tangent from the normal trend of loving GTA.
Frankly...I am sorta disappointed. I am having a real tough time getting into this one and feeling apart of it. Yes there are some really cool things, I love many of the little details put in (like hailing cabs, actually breaking into parked cars, cell phone, etc.)....but, I am still not feeling it as much as the last GTA games and even games like Crackdown and Saints Row.
The controls still feel heavy and bulky, the character just feels like a chore to move around and get where you want him to be. This ruins a lot of the gun fights and such.
Because the characters have actual WEIGHT now.
The car camera is really low, makes it hard to see what is going on without holding slightly up on the right stick which gets annoying. Changing car views than makes the car about 10 miles away which sucks as well.
Agreed with that... sorta... It's not so difficult to deal with once you play for a while
The missions are very simplistic and lacking the depth that the earlier games had.
The game slowly builds up to much more complex and cinematic missions as the game goes on. Keep playing!
There are barely any side games I have found so far...great bowling, darts, etc Where are my car collection tasks, ice cream truck driver, taxi driver, police, fire, motorcylce school, car school, etc.? Those were a lot more fun...
Some are there, others are replaced. Brucie will email you car collection tasks (as well as racing), Roman will give you Taxi missions, hack a Police car computer to do vigilante missions, Little Jacob will give you drug delivery jobs... There's a lot more, just gotta play!
The map is way to confusing. I have played for a few hours and still know pretty much no where, only a few select areas. On GTA3 and VC I knew the whole game like the back of my hand. Saints Row and Crackdown I also learned most of the map. On San Andreas it was a bit harder, but still you learned it after awhile. They packed so many roads and such into this one...that it is almost impossible to learn totally. I kinda liked knowing where I was at all times.
It just came out not three days ago, I really doubt you knew the entire map of San Andreas OR GTA3 in three days. KEEP PLAYING
The dialog sound is way mute compared to the game sounds. Using a surround sound system, the atmosphere sounds are extremely loud while the dialog is hard to here...annoying. This happens on lots of games though, so whatever, I can live with it.
Not the games fault. Calibrate your sound system. Sounds like your front speakers aren't leveled correctly. I, too, am using a sound system (Polk's powered with an Onkyo 605) and the game has the best sound I've ever heard on a game. Very loud and in your face. And the directionality is fantastic!
Cars are very generic. So many look like each other and act like each other and there are not very many "cool" cars. There are a few, but they are rare.
Keep playing! Find the car dealerships!
New cops circle thing is neat, but gets impossible to beat. 6 Star wanted level, I was hiding in the subways. Walked about 10 miles, no cops around that could see me. But when I walked outside of the circle by going through the subways, it would almost instantly make a new circle centered where I was ?!?!? No cop saw me! The stars even stayed grayed out. It is just impossible to get rid of 6 stars now! (this is coming from someone who was the master at getting rid of stars in the last games). I really like the circle as you have a good idea of how to get rid of cops, but you no longer can hide close by and still get rid of stars!?!?!
Well, I dont care, flame away, these are my opinions so you do not have to quote my text and tell me why you think it is wrong. I know lots love the game, but IMO it has been a let down so far. I want GTA3, VC, and SA back!
Love the blurr, best game to date....EVER.
In my opinion of course
I put this under the Halo category; I am having a lot of fun with it, just not god's gift to video games for me.
How long have you been playing? Doesn't seem like very long, and you don't really seem like a veteran GTA gamer if you don't see what's right in front of you.
I get what you are saying, but I was starting to feel apart of it by 10hrs in while playing GTA3 and VC...
I knew parts of the map, not saying the whole thing, but large chunks within a few hours of playing 3 and VC.
Yes, somethings are building and getting better, but others are just not.
As far as player models and weight...no, thats not the issue. Crackdown had awesome ragdoll effects and proper weight especially as you built strength...you didnt feel like a retard trying to fit though and your guy would not get stuck on random corners and doors as you try to manuever him through.
I second this again. Within 2-3 missions I knew where my main guy was for GTA3, and each section took a few hours to learn your way around.
5 hours in, and Liberty City is totally, well, unknown. I can't even find roman's place without the GPS.
I just threw in DMC3 again for a bit and had far more fun with it doing 2 levels and dying on a boss than I've had with teh entireity of GTA4 so far. I think I'll put GTA4 away for a while, play some good games in the meantime.
Given that unless a game grabs me immediately, and I mean almost straight out of the box, it gets shelved, so yes, I wanted anther GTA3. Something fun, light hearted, and fast to just screw around in. GTA4 is ponderous. It takes a lot to get into. I'm bored with it, and it'll be going on the shelf soon. I'd rather play hellgate london, and given that was the biggest disappointment of the year for last year, it's saying something.Isn't that the point of GTA 4 though? To be a massive game with huge maps. IMO, GTA 4 is the type of game I've been dreaming about since I finished GTA 3. A game where you can do anything and get completely lost in the enormous size of it. All of the other GTA games felt so small to me and that is where GTA 4 excels; even after five hours you STILL have not experienced everything there is to experience. Who would want a game where after just a few hours you have memorized every single road and location? After playing for ten hours I want to be able to drive on a road and be like "wow this game is massive. I haven't even driven on this road before and I've been playing this game for a few days."
And isn't that the point of the GTA series? They need to expand on themselves. Would you seriously want GTA 4 to be just another GTA 3 where you can memorize the entire city within a few hours? Or do you want to be playing GTA 4 for days and still be able to discover new locations and new things to do?
Maybe you are too used to linear games like Devil May Cry where you don't have to think about where you are going. Most gamers crave games that let them go wherever they want, do whatever they want and constantly be exploring new places. Using the size of GTA 4's maps is just a terrible argument. If anything you should be praising the fact that the developers were able to put such a massive city in a video game.
Given that unless a game grabs me immediately, and I mean almost straight out of the box, it gets shelved, so yes, I wanted anther GTA3. Something fun, light hearted, and fast to just screw around in. GTA4 is ponderous. It takes a lot to get into. I'm bored with it, and it'll be going on the shelf soon. I'd rather play hellgate london, and given that was the biggest disappointment of the year for last year, it's saying something.
I'm bored of GTA4 already. I play games for 10-15 minutes at a time these days, and after you lose 5 minutes for the PS3 to load, that's not long enough to do much. It's especially not long enough to get into a game, and it'd take me months to finish GTA4. I don't have months to spend with one game.
If I want to go somewhere, I go somewhere. I fire up the bike and go. Pick a direction - I'd rather be riding. Sadly, it's night, snowing, and freaking cold, so that's out.
And I'd question the "most gamers" comment - many of us hate sandbox games. I despised Oblivion and was bored with Morrowind. Crackdown was fun for an afternoon, and only because I kept driving towards each goal. Black and white sucked major balls. All because none of them had a good enough, definable goal. At least, not a strong enough one to get you through. Those games are boring.
I loved all the GTA3 series. I ignored the side missions, ignored the crap, and just played the main storyline. GTA4 it's much harder to get into that, and much harder to get into the vehicles and controls. I love the story. The audio is awesome. The TV, radio, and minor touches and flourishes are amazing. The protagonist is the most believable we've ever seen. BUT... The gameplay is mediocre, and that ruins all the rest, imo, and for me.
Dislikes - I think the driving mechanic is trying too hard to be real. Driving in a video game should never be more difficult then real life driving. Driving in real life is simple and easy and you don't sway around like you're on a god damn boat in every car you drive. They should of stuck to the arcade style driving which was fast and fun. For a game that is mostly driving, it's kind of disappointing that that mechanic specifically has declined. It REALLY took the fun out of the bikes too. I'm just amazed they would make their main mechanic so difficult, it seems like a shotty move to me.
I have a hard time understanding complaints when the game has a completion expectancy of 30-40 hours. Playing it for a couple hours you're still in the tutorial missions. Hell, after 6 hours you're still doing tutorial missions. I'd like to hear on average, how long people play a game before they decide not to play it again.
There were plenty of gameplay videos on the internet before the release so really, you knew exactly what you were getting beforehand, yet people are bitching.
True but maybe your opinion is skewed because you don't have enough time for GTA 4. Since you only play games for about 15 minutes each day you don't really have enough time to completely enjoy GTA 4. You should just set aside a weekend and get really in-depth with it, you'll surely enjoy it. This week I had finals and I found myself procrastinating like crazy because I kept playing GTA 4 for hours; not even doing the missions but just driving around causing complete chaos. It's the most fun I've had in a video game in a while.
About the sandbox games thing, I myself have never liked those types of games (Morrowind, Oblivion, Black & White)... the RPG type games. I feel like GTA 4 breaks the mold and is somewhat like an RPG because of it's size and characters, but it plays completely like an action/adventure game.
I think the GTA series are just awesome because no games are like it. Few games let you just go completely crazy in a huge city with almost no boundaries in what you can do. It's such a nice change of pace from games like Guitar Hero or Halo or Call of Duty. The GTA games aren't completely based on survival or repetition, they are based on how creative you can be and the many different ways you are able to complete various aspects of it.
You played a GTA game for 1 hour and put it away? I'm not flaming you because I have my own complaints with the game now that I am a little more comfortable with it but only giving a game an hour isn't enough to make a judgement call.
It's not a 10/10, but it's also NO LOWER than a 9/10 either.
If I'm not hooked by 5-6 hours, it's done. I'm not wasting 40 hours on something that isn't good - my time is worth more than that. I saw the gameplay videos - it looked like an improved GTA3, and I feel that it couldn't be farther from that.
Maybe so, but my play style worked fine for every other GTA game, so there's no reason I should have expected that it wouldn't work for this one. I don't have a weekend free till sometime in 2009, maybe 2010 - I've got too many things in real life to blow whole days on a game anymore. And given how bored I am with it now, I'm not so sure I'd even want to do that. I did what you used to do when I was a kid with Skies of Arcadia, FF8 and the like. Not so much anymore (although those had a hook - they pulled me in enough that I couldn't stop playing them. GTA4 has no hook yet).