Pirate's Bay Lives On

ASSUMING they have no idea where the servers are (Polygraph time) then the prosecutor has no leg to stand on.

WHY? doe they love to over reach and claim that the owners of sites are MAKING millions, when if the did a forensic evaluation of their accounts they see they just have the money from working one job.

It's like trying to say that they are responsible for the plague, and have stocks of nukes they want to give to Bin Laden.

Charge with something that SHOULD NOT get you laughed out of court, if the judge knew anything about tech.

The only good thing is that hopefully they get the same judge as last time who knows his stuff and throws out 99% of this junk.
 
They don't control over root dns servers... delete the dns record, 90% of their users wouldn't have a clue how to access their site... but I guess that is why they are putting out their own 'toolbar' now.
 
I'm still waiting for someone to put up a sattelite full of harddrives
 
Martyr said:
I'm still waiting for someone to put up a sattelite full of harddrives
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...and make the satellite in the shape of a pirate ship? Then surely the US has no right to touch them in space, unless they govern that too.. We will surely need some laser guns.
 
n1ce_hat said:
...and make the satellite in the shape of a pirate ship? Then surely the US has no right to touch them in space, unless they govern that too.. We will surely need some laser guns.
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Gotta make it look like the Yamato!
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Here is my problem. I have been popped twice by ISP with cease and desist orders or they would turn me off. I obliged with great haste. BOTH times I got popped, it was from torrents that I had originally started from the Bay. Seems to me that all the DMCA trolls out there hang out at the Bay and pick up IP addys of seeders. This was WITH the use of Peer Guardian.

Find private tracker for your torrents. Or get popped. My advise to all.
 
Or move onto an ISP that doesn't care and doesn't give out your info... or better yet, use a seedbox.
 
Usenet blows for the most part. It is even worse because you're putting money toward illegal stuff, and everyone does those stupid 150+ part rar files that get corrupt and screw your download credits.
 
To everyone that is cheering this on....

What happens when intellectual creations such as software and games hold no monetary value anymore because the creations are easily pirated?

Do we start seeing closed systems that the software writers and publishers control themselves become the standard... systems such as the PS3, the XBOX360?
 
Met-AL said:
To everyone that is cheering this on....

What happens when intellectual creations such as software and games hold no monetary value anymore because the creations are easily pirated?

Do we start seeing closed systems that the software writers and publishers control themselves become the standard... systems such as the PS3, the XBOX360?
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The reason piracy is such a problem is because of the massive margins on IP. They're still raking is immense amounts of money from the people that pay. I'm not worried. If they actually operated at reasonable margins maybe I would care about ripping off a company, but they don't, so I don't.
 
Nemesis999 said:
The reason piracy is such a problem is because of the massive margins on IP. They're still raking is immense amounts of money from the people that pay. I'm not worried. If they actually operated at reasonable margins maybe I would care about ripping off a company, but they don't, so I don't.
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Yes and no. The games that sell a lot make the publishers, developers, and ad companies a lot of money. The games that don't sell a lot (Okami on the PS2, for example) cost them a lot of money as well. Something to consider is that most games on the market don't hit those high sales. Most of them will lose money or break even. Its even worse when a big budget game sales bad (see: Lair). The losses from those are even worse. On the PC ther aren't as many costs, of course PC games are cheaper than PS3 and 360 games so where is the less cost evened out? Just to add more to think about: Consider that the publishers do not get the MSRP of the game. They get a wholesale price that the retailer pays. So probably somewhere around $25-35 per copy (not sure of the actual mark-up on games, if someone knows it would be great to share).

So, could publishers sell games for less? Of course. Would the lower price equate to higher sales making the drop worth it? Hard to say, but personally I doubt it. While for the mega-publishers this is mostly a non-issue what about the smaller ones? They suffer more from lost sales as they don't rake in the money like EA, 2K, and so-on do.
 
Met-AL said:
To everyone that is cheering this on....

What happens when intellectual creations such as software and games hold no monetary value anymore because the creations are easily pirated?

Do we start seeing closed systems that the software writers and publishers control themselves become the standard... systems such as the PS3, the XBOX360?
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you cant expect the market to be protected from the consumers. agile companies are promoting software as a service, which is not easily pirated.
 
w1retap said:
Usenet blows for the most part. It is even worse because you're putting money toward illegal stuff, and everyone does those stupid 150+ part rar files that get corrupt and screw your download credits.
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Hence the invention of the PAR file
 
w1retap said:
Usenet blows for the most part. It is even worse because you're putting money toward illegal stuff, and everyone does those stupid 150+ part rar files that get corrupt and screw your download credits.
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Sounds like someone has a shitty provider.
 
Rampage1329 said:
Sounds like someone has a shitty provider.
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What the heck is all this about about putting money towards illegal operations and download credits anyway? Last I checked Usenet was free, mine certainly costs nothing in terms of money or credits!
 
Depends on where you go for the quality of service you want. I've been using usenet since the early 90's and it has progressively gotten worse over the years. Specialized private trackers and LAN's are where it's at. The garbage is minimal and it is much quicker and easier.
 
Because of laws (host illegal material = eligible for punishment) here in Scandinavia or the EU in general (I think) we no longer have newsgroups, so there are no binaries since like 2002, so the people who want warez have to go elsewhere, so do the people who want childporn and beastiality, and guess what? TPB has all that.

I'll get my linux ISOs from a private invite-only tracker, thankyouverymuch.
 
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