Apple Air vs. ASUS Eee PC

Blazestorm said:
What would take up 80 gigs of space that you would actually need/want to do on a laptop?
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Programs.

You are VERY limited at what programs you could use on this thing.


Blazestorm said:
At home I can stream music/movies off my server without any effort at all.
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Here is where you lose sight...
99% of the people at home don't have servers at home.

Traveling CEOs have applications. Period. Just not a lot you can do with such small disk space.


Blazestorm said:
If I need storage I'll buy an external hard-drive
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Once more... are we talking about something portable or not?
Regardless if we are talking about the Air, Eee, or any other notebook out there- carrying around an external hard drive is just ridiculous.
 
TechieSooner said:
Programs.

You are VERY limited at what programs you could use on this thing.



Here is where you lose sight...
99% of the people at home don't have servers at home.

Traveling CEOs have applications. Period. Just not a lot you can do with such small disk space.



Once more... are we talking about something portable or not?
Regardless if we are talking about the Air, Eee, or any other notebook out there- carrying around an external hard drive is just ridiculous.
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Then get a goddamn laptop. You're going too far picking something apart. My boss, the president of Integrated Project Resources, uses an HP Compaq 2510p which has a Centrino Duo 1.06gb with 1gb RAM and 60gb harddrive, and that thing's tiny for a laptop at 12 inches.

An UMPC equates to a larger and more familiar and computer-friendly palm pilot or smart phones. They don't have alot of space in them either.
 
TechieSooner said:
Once more... are we talking about something portable or not? Regardless if we are talking about the Air, Eee, or any other notebook out there- carrying around an external hard drive is just ridiculous.
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SDHC Cards and a WD Passport drive... connects through USB, no additional power :rolleyes:

I don't know what programs you'd want to install on an ipod drive and actually use on that machine.

On my Q6600 machine I do image and video editing with every program I need I'm only at 3.4 gigs in my Program Files folder... My games folder has 12 gigs... which is basically just Steam.
 
Blazestorm said:
I'm only at 3.4 gigs in my Program Files folder...
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Exactly. Add into that the OS itself and any actual Data files- you're already needing more space.

My own mother couldn't do with 4GB of space- it's just a ridiculously low amount.
Emails, documents, emailed photos... it all adds up. And quickly.
 
And a 16gb SDHC card is $65... and if those aren't "portable" I don't know what is...

I nlited my XP install to under 600 megs... and all the programs I "need" on the Eee.... I'm still at 2.8 gigs available..

I'm typing from it right now, while going to the bathroom... :p

It's preference, but the Air is gimmick and hype... especially for $1800...
 
In case you don't know what is a SDHC, it is the 16GB storage that can be used easily with Eee PC's card reader:
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alg7_munif said:
In case you don't know what is a SDHC, it is the 16GB storage that can be used easily with Eee PC's card reader:
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/2667/sdhcpx1.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

which is 1.25" long, .875" wide, and .0625" thick.

aka... small
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TechieSooner said:
Programs.

You are VERY limited at what programs you could use on this thing.



Here is where you lose sight...
99% of the people at home don't have servers at home.

Traveling CEOs have applications. Period. Just not a lot you can do with such small disk space.



Once more... are we talking about something portable or not?
Regardless if we are talking about the Air, Eee, or any other notebook out there- carrying around an external hard drive is just ridiculous.
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rofl, this isn't meant for "traveling CEOs". It's for people that want simple web browsing and other general computer tasks in a very portable form factor. I know if I had a full sized laptop, I wouldn't do much more than browse the web, talk on AIM/Yahoo, and take notes in class, which the EEE can do. Anything power hungry that I really needed to get done I would do on my desktop. You're not understanding the kind of market the EEE is for.

You say 99% of people don't have servers. Everyone who has a computer has a server.:rolleyes: It only takes like 10 minutes to setup file and folder sharing and then stream whatever you want. It's not like you have to have a machine dedicated to streaming media and sharing files, you can use an existing desktop/laptop. Even easier with iTunes, Windows Media Extenders, etc.

You say 4gb isn't enough, but there are people with full sized laptops that don't even use that much space...
 
TWO515TY said:
You say 99% of people don't have servers. Everyone who has a computer has a server.:rolleyes: It only takes like 10 minutes to setup file and folder sharing and then stream whatever you want. It's not like you have to have a machine dedicated to streaming media and sharing files, you can use an existing desktop/laptop. Even easier with iTunes, Windows Media Extenders, etc.
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That's basically what my "server" is...

I just have a lot of hard-drives n it :p
 
TWO515TY said:
rofl, this isn't meant for "traveling CEOs". It's for people that want simple web browsing and other general computer tasks in a very portable form factor. I know if I had a full sized laptop, I wouldn't do much more than browse the web, talk on AIM/Yahoo, and take notes in class, which the EEE can do. Anything power hungry that I really needed to get done I would do on my desktop. You're not understanding the kind of market the EEE is for.
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Point taken.

TWO515TY said:
It only takes like 10 minutes to setup file and folder sharing and then stream whatever you want.
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Yea... for you and me.
90% of those 99% of people don't even understand the relationship between a client and a server, much less how to set up and use one...

TWO515TY said:
You say 4gb isn't enough, but there are people with full sized laptops that don't even use that much space...
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I still disagree.
XP Alone (From what I can find- no widely used device like a Dell or HP comes with Linux) takes up a few GBs. The installing AIM/Yahoo/Email/Office Suite and all that jazz sucks up even more.
 
TechieSooner said:
Yea... for you and me.
90% of those 99% of people don't even understand the relationship between a client and a server, much less how to set up and use one...


I still disagree.
XP Alone (From what I can find- no widely used device like a Dell or HP comes with Linux) takes up a few GBs. The installing AIM/Yahoo/Email/Office Suite and all that jazz sucks up even more.
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You right click a folder, click sharing and security, "share this folder on the network" and as long as the "client" has the same workgroup you'll see the folders and be able to access the files. If you want to stream across the internet it's a little bit more work but isn't too complex. And with a slow internet upload you might run into bandwidth issues (speed) but yea...

And you can install programs to the SDHC card... XP Alone on my Eee takes up 530 megs.
 
after first hand expereince, and fully understand the specification price of both devices the EEE wins.

there are pros and cons with both systems but there is NO WAY I will spend 1,700 for a 1.6ghz or 3,000 for 1.8ghz computer know that I have a dual core 3.2ghz computer sitting at home.

if the idea of having a EEE or an Air was simply for internet browsing, word processing, emailing and tpyical computer usage the Air is by far the worst investment to make in a computer. i have to admit, the apple air is damn sexy to look at but then the thought of the price vs performance come into my head again and i simply realize that the air is SOOOOO NOT PRACTICAL!

who gives a shit if its 2lbs lighter than most laptops.... for the price range thats ridiculous! only a damn fool would be a sucker to spend 3gz on a laptop thats as fast as a regular laptop for under 1000.

on the other hand the EEE suffers from performance and desktop resolution but hey, at 399.99 who can complain when the EEE actual works well for people who are on the go? sure you can't play a damn 1st person shooter on it very well but who cares! It definately beats trying to email on a PDA I can tell you that and browse websites through a damn iphone. the EEE also lack 1 other thing that I wish it had and that is more damn hard drive space. yeah sure a 16gb flash drive will work but in order to use the EEE for what it is, it needs more space.


overall, i would perfer the EEE over the Air. It wins price and functionality (for me at least).
 
After reading tese replies you'd think there were more "Super Mac Haters" than the super mac fanboys. I own both a PC and a Macbook Pro.

I really don't think it's a right comparison. I mean if they are comparing stricly on the "size" OK. If you are comparing price take the $300 Eee and compare it to low end regular sized laptops around $400-500 and it would lose. Yes the Eee is an awesome deal if your just surfing and typing, but give Linux to any old computer Joe (IE your mother or granmother looking to view their emails and send pictures) and they wont be able to figure out anything except how to open what apps comes on the thing.

Good concept article, poorly written. It's not a fair comparison because either machine trumps the other in the selecting "compeitions". Yeah Mac deffinately wins screen yes Eee wins valu...duh. I could figure out most of these things without even reading this so called article.
 
alg7_munif said:
In case you don't know what is a SDHC, it is the 16GB storage that can be used easily with Eee PC's card reader:
sdhcpx1.jpg
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Does the EEE PC support SDHC out of the box? I have been in love with things ever since I laid eyes on it.

Also, can you boot off the SDHC?
 
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