Proposed Law Would Tax Video Games

ir0nw0lf said:
No offense to all 3 of you in Wisconsin (lol!), but what are they feeding you people up there, moldy cheese? This is incredibly stupid. I wonder if Jackass Thompson has his fingers in this one? :rolleyes:
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Nice attempt at a troll, but your jokes are about 15 years late. We have had a different governor for at least 2 terms. There are more than 3 people in Wisconsin, let alone, probably in this thread. No one feeds us cheese, let alone moldy cheese.

And most of all, it wasn't the general public campaigning to put this idea for legislation out there -- so I don't know why you're trying to blame us, the citizens? The guy obviously is looking for ways to generate state revenue, instead of re-organizing the state's government, and trimming the fat. Also, this is a state tax, introduced by a state senator. There's no way our US senators would be as so flamboyantly stupid to introduce this in the Senate.
 
Uh, there's already tax on games. I never bought a game that didn't have the usual State Tax applied to it, like everything else. There's tax on virtually everything in this country except what are necessities, such as food. But even then, there's tax on things that are a necessity, such as clothes.

So while his reasoning might be completely, how shall we say, "retarded", games are already taxed (at least everywhere I've ever lived) so I don't see any problem, with the exception of his idiocy linking the game tax to paying for incarceration of those who supposedly commit crimes due to games.

That horse has been beaten to death a million times over, and is far past the point of old.

How could there not have been a tax on games in WI already? Different State Tax laws where retail is concerned? Never heard of that before.
 
Should this pass you can rest assured that juvenile hooligans will have a cushioned landing. They might as well just hand the bonehead kids money for being irresponsible (and probably lying) twits.

Everybody open up your loving arms!
 
Yeah, lets make games more expensive so teenagers can't buy as many so the spend less time at home playing video games and more time on the streets committing crimes.... Pure GENIUS.
 
It's shit like this that make me wonder if these people in office were ever children. Or if this is their way of getting back at the world for making fun of them for their academic prowess (or lack thereof in the case of Dubya) in school because they spent their whole lives with a nose in a book and didn't get to play with their friends after school.

Either way, I know what state I'm not ever going to live in now.
 
Also from Wisconsin, here. I did a little more checking, too. He wants to apply a 1% sales tax to all video game software and hardware, so not just general electronics. His apparent motivation is: "by kids - for kids", because he assumes that video gaming is done by kids. Though why he assumes that the kids who are trying to fit into society by having jobs to pay for these games are somehow responsible for juveniles is beyond me.

If this were done on all electronics, I wouldn't be happy about it, but I could live with it, after all, the money taken from alcohol and cigarette sales don't go towards things directly related to them, either, but the fact of the matter is, there's a certain stigma attached to products to which special taxes are applied. While most of the public can agree that electronics as a whole are not responsible for the downfall of society, video games don't share that same consensus. To single out JUST video games is to apply that same stigma and imply government support for the idea that there's something unhealthy about video games.
 
darkbelief said:
i say we tax golf attire and equipment, cigars, and religion to pay for the time these retards waste, the money they get paid, and the amount of money they screw us out of(yeah, we know about it) to fix the national debt as well as pay for all of the horrible young kids blowing people away with the BFG they fashioned out of their lame close minded back porch upbringing.
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THE stupidist and most offensive thing I have ever heard come out off someone's mouth. You deserve the Darwin award for sure.
 
Cinge said:
THE stupidist and most offensive thing I have ever heard come out off someone's mouth. You deserve the Darwin award for sure.
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I think he was being ironic. Religion is the number one cause of violence in the entire world, yet it's allowed and encouraged by all, government and citizens alike.

Instead of worrying about true cause of violence (rebellious, oppression, religion, even famine and so on), they blame video games. It's just so sad how politicians don't see what they're doing to the world by blaming things that don't matter.
 
ir0nw0lf said:
No offense to all 3 of you in Wisconsin (lol!), but what are they feeding you people up there, moldy cheese? This is incredibly stupid. I wonder if Jackass Thompson has his fingers in this one? :rolleyes:
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hey come on now, Thompson was one of the better things that has happened to the state here. I was sad to see him leave for greener pastures to be honest.

Now This does not shock me being from Wisconsin. This state is a tax hell. Wisconsin is to a tax hell as Cali is a place for crazy place for off the wall Laws :)

I mean why is it known in the State of cali to cause cancer? The others states residents dont get cancer from this same item ? ( I say that because I have seen alot of labels that say that and I always find it funny that it only lists cali as the only state )
 
No, saying religion is the cause of violence in the world is just as stupid as saying video games cause violence. You have people that take things to an extreme and use video games, guns, religion and so on as a crutch or excuse to do it.

Look at the billions of people that are religious and don't cause violence.

Let's put the blame where it belongs and not say stupid things. The blame belongs on the radicals themselves.

Calling religious people retards crosses the line in a huge way.
 
Cinge said:
No, saying religion is the cause of violence in the world is just as stupid as saying video games cause violence. You have people that take things to an extreme and use video games, guns, religion and so on as a crutch or excuse to do it.

Look at the billions of people that are religious and don't cause violence.

Let's put the blame where it belongs and not say stupid things. The blame belongs on the radicals themselves.

Calling religious people retards crosses the line in a huge way.
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Well I think him saying retard was above the line, but I do have to agree that alot of battles were indeed fought because of religious beliefs.
 
Maybe we should stop jailing people for stupid ass reasons, and there wouldn't be a problem in the first place.
 
watertown28 said:
Well I think him saying retard was above the line, but I do have to agree that a lot of battles were indeed fought because of religious beliefs.
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How much more good has been done because of religious beliefs? Because you have radicals in religion doesn't make religion the cause of something. Every single battle that has ever took place has been because of a difference of opinions period. People using religion as an excuse to go to war or kill people, doesn't make religion or religious people the problem.

It's like saying gun owners are a problem. It's not gun owners in general, it's the criminals that use them that give guns a bad name. Just like people that use the excuse of video games as a cause of violence or movies and then people saying video games or movies are bad. It's the same stupid generalization.
 
Oh4Sh0 said:
Lemme guess. You're a Republican !!!
BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH GAH!
;)
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Your Bush derangement syndrome will be over soon. He's leaving office. Good luck with dems getting into office, Hillary and Obama are the front runners. They shot themselves in the foot. They might as well put Biden and Ted Kennedy out there. :p
 
Cinge said:
How much more good has been done because of religious beliefs? Because you have radicals in religion doesn't make religion the cause of something. Every single battle that has ever took place has been because of a difference of opinions period. People using religion as an excuse to go to war or kill people, doesn't make religion or religious people the problem.

It's like saying gun owners are a problem. It's not gun owners in general, it's the criminals that use them that give guns a bad name. Just like people that use the excuse of video games as a cause of violence or movies and then people saying video games or movies are bad. It's the same stupid generalization.
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maybe nowadays this may be true but back way back back back back, wars were fought because of religious beliefs. I am not making an excuse for people being dumb and fighting about that,but its true. Alot of people do stuff for religious beliefs
 
w1retap said:
Your Bush derangement syndrome will be over soon. He's leaving office. Good luck with dems getting into office, Hillary and Obama are the front runners. They shot themselves in the foot. They might as well put Biden and Ted Kennedy out there. :p
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eh none of em from either party deserves office. put someone in who has an average job and knows what life's like for the average middle class citizen.
 
He has constantly votes not to fund the troops while the are in the middle of battle, and he wants nothing to do with foreign policy to let countries do whatever they feel.
 
Dr. Paul is against undeclared war.
To quote him from 2003, just before the war:
"Only tyrants can take a nation to war without the consent of the people. Invading Iraq without a declaration of war is illegal and unwise because of the many unforeseen consequences that are likely to result...
Victory under these circumstances is always elusive, and unintended conseqences are inevitable."

We've never won an undeclared war, and we can't force democracy on another country with the Army. After Cuba, Korea, and Vietnam you would think we would have learned by now.

To avoid totally derailing this thread, I'll just say that if you're a conservative minded person who supports the war I wish you would read what Ron Paul's saying before you write him off as a "nutjob." Or at least read his wikipedia entry. :)
He supports personal freedom, smaller federal government, lower taxes, a strong dollar/economy, and a friendly non-interventionist (but not isolationist) foreign policy. A very similar platform to what Bush ran on in 2000, except Ron Paul has supported these views for over 30 years.
 
DeathFromBelow said:
Dr. Paul is against undeclared war.
To quote him from 2003, just before the war:
"Only tyrants can take a nation to war without the consent of the people. Invading Iraq without a declaration of war is illegal and unwise because of the many unforeseen consequences that are likely to result...
Victory under these circumstances is always elusive, and unintended conseqences are inevitable."

We've never won an undeclared war, and we can't force democracy on another country with the Army. After Cuba, Korea, and Vietnam you would think we would have learned by now.

To avoid totally derailing this thread, I'll just say that if you're a conservative minded person who supports the war I wish you would read what Ron Paul's saying before you write him off as a "nutjob." Or at least read his wikipedia entry. :)
He supports personal freedom, smaller federal government, lower taxes, a strong dollar/economy, and a friendly non-interventionist (but not isolationist) foreign policy. A very similar platform to what Bush ran on in 2000, except Ron Paul has supported these views for over 30 years.
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You already derailed this thread man. Oh btw, congress did declare war on iraq, but we have already ended it once the invasion was over, like what 3 or 4 weeks later.
 
Cinge said:
No, saying religion is the cause of violence in the world is just as stupid as saying video games cause violence. You have people that take things to an extreme and use video games, guns, religion and so on as a crutch or excuse to do it.

Look at the billions of people that are religious and don't cause violence.

Let's put the blame where it belongs and not say stupid things. The blame belongs on the radicals themselves.

Calling religious people retards crosses the line in a huge way.
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Perhaps, but plenty of wars are fought over religion. How long was Northern Ireland's Protestant and Catholic populations at war? Iraq's two Muslim factions are at war. Didn't catholics and Protestants once fight a 100 year war?

I'm not against religion (as long as it's not foisted upon me), but you'd have to be an ostrich to deny that many of the worst atrocities were/are carried out in the name of God and those people are generally carrying them out in the name of a specific religion (whatever religion it may be).

I agree with you, however about calling religious people retards. I have many (most?) friends who are religious and almost all of them are very smart and reasonable people.
 
DeathFromBelow said:
Dr. Paul is against undeclared war.
To quote him from 2003, just before the war:
"Only tyrants can take a nation to war without the consent of the people. Invading Iraq without a declaration of war is illegal and unwise because of the many unforeseen consequences that are likely to result...
Victory under these circumstances is always elusive, and unintended conseqences are inevitable."

We've never won an undeclared war, and we can't force democracy on another country with the Army. After Cuba, Korea, and Vietnam you would think we would have learned by now.

To avoid totally derailing this thread, I'll just say that if you're a conservative minded person who supports the war I wish you would read what Ron Paul's saying before you write him off as a "nutjob." Or at least read his wikipedia entry. :)
He supports personal freedom, smaller federal government, lower taxes, a strong dollar/economy, and a friendly non-interventionist (but not isolationist) foreign policy. A very similar platform to what Bush ran on in 2000, except Ron Paul has supported these views for over 30 years.
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He sounds like a "nut job" to me
 
Well, we need to just kick out the entire government and replace them with working folks.

People on disability
jobless because of illegal immigration
jobless because the company decided to outsource your job to India or China or Mexico or even Canada.

Just plain every day folk with no ties to lobbiest and special interest groups (shoot em all). No more earmarks, no more grants to scientist so they can see what damage to the environment cows belching does and so on. No more money for bridges to nowhere, etc.

No more money to other countries. We help our people first.

I think we could turn it all around.
 
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