Dont ever come to parties that I go to then... lol
No kidding.
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Dont ever come to parties that I go to then... lol
I am married and now a student and stay-at-home Dad. My wife supports my rampant modding habit both financially and emotionally...
Ahhh, She got a sister that likes long haired guys?
Again they never did this with the workstation chipsets in the past. There is no reason why they would need to do it today.
I have a few 8800 gtxs , , ,will see how they work on the Skulltrail . . .once i get my procs deliveredLast I heard, SkullTrail does Crossfire, not SLI ...the irony cited at the time being that AMD/ATi is a competitor of intel, yet SkullTrail uses an nvidia PCIe to PCIe bridge, hence running afoul of both GPU manufacturers. Maybe intel will support both on this board, which would be hella cool for the consumer, if they can sort the licensing. It would be nice to know, after dropping $1k each on a pair of CPUs, and another $1k on FBDIMMs, that you could choose whatever graphics card is best at the time and in the future. FWIW, AMD doesn't restrict CrossFire, so anybody with adequate silicon is free to implement support on their MB.
I guess the notion of a PCIe bridge to allow massive peer-to-peer bandwidth is interesting, but AFAIK the path between the southbridge and said PCIe bridge isn't huge. Of course, benchmarks have shown it doesn't need to be; benchmarks show that SLI games reach about the same frame rate on PCIe 16x8 and even 8x8 systems, since the entire point of a GPU is to offload the main CPU and RAM. Other than loading textures, which pretty much load up and stay on the graphics card, there really isn't a huge need for bandwidth between the CPU and GPU.
Maybe with 4 video cards you need more bandwidth to copy the textures 4 times? PCIe 2.0 is rumored to provide a multicast capability when addendum are ratified this summer, so it will be interesting to see if all the pre-standards motherboards can do that
I am married and now a student and stay-at-home Dad. My wife supports my rampant modding habit both financially and emotionally - so a search for DarthBeavis so see the projects
more to come bro much morenever in my wildest dream I've ever thought such wife exist. to say that you're very lucky is an understatement
Anyway thanks for sharing those pix
BoneTrail 2, already? Didn't BT1 just drop?
Any reason to think about 'upgrading' from the BadAxe2? PCI-e 2.0 the only relevant new addition besides FSB bumps?
greggie did not notice that was you!!!!Yeah, you're going to have to check my bags when I leave your house in a couple weeks... If you notice a HUGE buldge in my pants, it's not your Skull Trail. I'm just REALLY REALLY happy.
-Stiffler
I read somewhere that Skulltrail's future is now in doubt. Intel intended Skulltrail to be a direct competitor to AMD's 'Quadfather' 4x4 platform that has been recently pushed aside as far as future support is concerned. Since the 4x4 enthusiast platform is no longer a viable threat in the high-end arena, apparently Intel does not perceive a need to further development of these platforms. It's just a rumor, but a lot of rumors seem to be holding water this year.If it really does support both Crossfire and SLI, that is going to be an amazing platform.
I read somewhere that Skulltrail's future is now in doubt. Intel intended Skulltrail to be a direct competitor to AMD's 'Quadfather' 4x4 platform that has been recently pushed aside as far as future support is concerned. Since the 4x4 enthusiast platform is no longer a viable threat in the high-end arena, apparently Intel does not perceive a need to further development of these platforms. It's just a rumor, but a lot of rumors seem to be holding water this year.
In any event, they're fantastic motherboards to say the least. I have a couple of Clovertown machines myself, and can just imagine the full potential of a Skulltrail based system...
afaik nVidia Quadros will run SLI on other chipsets but iirc the consumer market cards drivers look for an nVidia chipset before enabling SLI.Again they never did this with the workstation chipsets in the past. There is no reason why they would need to do it today.
like the pic shows . . .got both here . . .Hope this board goes retail!
Or I'm going x48
So far, it's only a rumor. I heard it a couple of weeks ago and haven't caught wind of anything since.I sure hope those rumors are not true. At least the ones that Intel will stop developing its Skulltrail platform.
Perhaps not, but there are other manufacturers producing enthusiast boards for Intel processors, and Intel does sell the 'Extreme' series of chips. I know, I know, they don't compare in price.As I see it, Skulltrail is Intel's only enthusiast platform, while AMD has the 790x chipset, black edition procs and the Overdrive Utility as its. At the moment, Intel doesnt have anything close to Overdrive.
On my Clovertown systems I can OC within Windows. OC from the BIOS or motherboard itself is impossible (AFAIK) with Intel workstation/server class motherboards, but like you stated, software OC is much preferable for ease of use.Personally, My next system will probably be an AMD one simply because of Overdrive. I much prefer overclocking from inside Windows, and the performance differences in Games is not quite enough to grab an Intel setup.
I could reply with several paragraphs worth of useful information here, but I don't have the time. To be brief, I read somewhere that Skulltrail motherboards will be really expensive, if they're ever released. For the rumored price or a little more, I would much rather purchase a quad socket-F SLI-capable motherboard. We're talking potential 32-core system here (with extra daughter board). Granted, it won't sport all the enthusiast features, but I'd take maximum core count over other features any day.If skulltrail is out before i build, my mind may change. I would love to have a MP system with enthusiast class processors, instead of server crap. Hopefully the High Performance FB-DIMMs are equivelent to their DIMM counterparts
not sure yet. . .the are just sitting in bags while I am away for XMas . .Unless I read something wrong, the X48 will support SLi yes?
Unless I read something wrong, the X48 will support SLi yes?
On my Clovertown systems I can OC within Windows. OC from the BIOS or motherboard itself is impossible (AFAIK) with Intel workstation/server class motherboards, but like you stated, software OC is much preferable for ease of use.
The only reason I don't think they will is cause nVidia would be kicking themselves in the balls on this one. Why would anyone buy a 780i or 790i for that matter when they can get SLi working fine on the x48. The only reason I could see is if the x48 couldn't do 3-way SLI.Again, not likely.
Very true indeed. One may even argue that a quad core is more than sufficient for the gaming enthusiast. Even though I definitely fall into the computer enthusiast category among hobbyists, I do not consider myself a 'gaming' enthusiast per se. My priorities lie elsewhere. For example, an SLI rig would be overkill for my current video needs. Maybe things may change in the future.Also, a 32 core system is useful only for some people. An 8 core system will be more than what the vast majority will use, and for gaming/enthusiast use, an 8 core system (at least at the moment), is plenty.
If one looks hard enough and is possessed of a will so inclined, one can find deals on the net. A quad socket-F Opteron board can be found for a little over $700 with four PCI-E connectors (yes, SLI as well). That will permit a 16-core system to start off with when decent processors will be made available. I wonder how much the Skulltrail board will retail for??Granted.. I would LOVE to have a 32 core system at my disposal. Would definitely help with my multitasking habits. (I keep slowing my q6600 down to a crawl.)
it does accept harpertownI havent google the Skulltrail board yet, but does it support Harpertown? I wonder when this board will actually be release and what the price is. Since BT is the replacement BadAxe 2, I'm assuming that it will be ~$200. If that is the case that mean the Skulltrail will $400-$500?
I heard at least $600 and that would make sense when one looks at server boards of similar specs but less features.I wonder when this board will actually be release and what the price is. Since BT is the replacement BadAxe 2, I'm assuming that it will be ~$200. If that is the case that mean the Skulltrail will $400-$500?
thanks for the thoughtful replies Dan!
He wouldn't say it.... too loudly.
But Dan has been praying for something to replace his 680i motherboard - something that will let him continue to use the 8800 GTX's that he's invested in - and I get the feeling that he's not very impressed with 780i/790i ** cough** fucked over rehashed 680i POS **cough** chipsets. It's just a feeling now, but I'm pretty confident about it.
(all opinions are my own - thank you very much )
He wouldn't say it.... too loudly.
But Dan has been praying for something to replace his 680i motherboard - something that will let him continue to use the 8800 GTX's that he's invested in - and I get the feeling that he's not very impressed with 780i/790i ** cough** fucked over rehashed 680i POS **cough** chipsets. It's just a feeling now, but I'm pretty confident about it.
(all opinions are my own - thank you very much )
Well you aren't far off the mark. The 680i SLI reference boards piss me off. I've given them decent reviews in the past, but sadly with as many of them as I've had to replace, my feelings on them have changed quite a bit.
I hammered the Striker Extreme twice in two seperate articles. Mine is rock solid but it overclocks like shit. So I want to replace it for that reason.
I'm skeptical of the new reference boards. Almost everyone has switched to solid state capacitors, but the 780i SLI appears to use the standard eletrolyte caps. This is no bueno. ASUS has solid state caps on their Striker, and like I said, it is a great board outside of being picky about RAM and overclocking like shit.
I actually have high hopes for the Striker II Formula. That will be the one I'll be paying the most attention to. I'll certainly give the 780i SLI reference boards a look when ever I'm given one to review, and I hope that NVIDIA corrects the issues of the boards' predecessors.
To be completely honest - I really thought about upgrading to a 680i - until I read about all of your negative experiences with them. I've been completely happy with my DFI Lanparty nF4 UT DR, but socket 939 is getting very old and even the fastest processor that I could buy, the FX-60, cost a lot more than a quad core Intel, DDR2 memory AND motherboard would. So, I'm in a holding pattern for the NEXT big thing.