PF Prophet Banned

You know I just realized something. If Kyle's hands are truly in the pockets of those who advertise on his site, then how do you explain this
 
rhagz said:
Looks like the person who started the other thread has been all over the place, saying the same things about the 8800GTs and not just BFG.

The Inquirer linked to a few threads, and here is one where he claims MSI and other brands did the same thing: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=43797

You can tell it's him because his signature is that Ashentech site that he uses on other forums like pcper. Also his terrible grammar skills are a dead giveaway. ;)

If you read the forums linked in that Inq article all you see is him every other post "confirming" and "reconfirming" it, claiming his 'friend' who was banned from said forums is having the problems.

Then you have him in this post (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=522694&postcount=46) recommending waiting for ATI to release cards!

Yeah, certainly no FUD campagin going on here. :rolleyes:
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He has certainly been accused of bieng an ATi fanboi in the past on PCper, I can atest to that.

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=434705

I also seem to remeber a thread where he mention some other "friend" at Intel that gave him some inside info or something....ahh here it is...

http://forums.pcper.com/showpost.php?p=3969208&postcount=8

...LOL that was a funnt thread BTW. I stopped hanging around PCper though, ever since they deleted my posts/ thread about SecuROM 7.x bieng potential malware (Bioshock demo), so I don't know what he's been spewing over there.
 
ryan_975 said:
My memory is quite different about this. I remember a few weeks before the launch that NV had to pull many (all?) GTX's from the channels because of the wrong resistor being used. I remember the problem being fixed well before launch. I never once heard of that issue before NV brought it out to light. I remember that the issue wasn't an actual problem more than it was a concern of what could be a problem had they let it be. I've seen a couple of people who somehow obtained the few faulty GTX's that didn't make it back, and they've had zero problems with them.
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What you say is correct, but the news of faulty GTX cards got out before that and NV made an official statement 2 weeks before launch. There was more than a couple bad resistor cards floating around after launch, but the majority were fixed and it was a good launch.

Koko56 said:
OMG - everyone is actually believing him!!! Someone who's registered on there should go and put things right...
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I dont think they are believing him parse. Its more like they are not jumping the gun and waiting for all the facts. This is Kyle's house and if he wants to ban someone its his decision. Its not the first time and not the last. Just some of us would of dealt with this in a different way.
 
nösferatu;1031635841 said:
kyle, i hope you've taken your time before doing this (almost looks like "Banned" is on a hot sale here),

i'm seeing this thread has become attention for some tech site, specifically on pcper, things are not looking good for us, [H]ard community, so i really hope your decision is right.

i don't wanna hear people talk about how low is [H], for i'm a proud [H]'s community member.
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The other sites are getting huffy out of greed and professional jealousy. They want to exaggerate [H]'s supposed negativity in order to puff themselves up. It's a pretty cutthroat battle for credibility, mindshare, and the revenue that comes with them out there among tech sites on the net. [H] and Kyle win the old-fashioned way, by telling the truth, digging for the info that matters, and refusing to compromise. All the hand-wringing "restraint" and "open-mindedness" adds up to is self-promotion and editorial cowardice. Oh, and of course lingering pro-AMD/ATi editorial bias.
 
Commander Suzdal said:
The other sites are getting huffy out of greed and professional jealousy. They want to exaggerate [H]'s supposed negativity in order to puff themselves up. It's a pretty cutthroat battle for credibility, mindshare, and the revenue that comes with them out there among tech sites on the net. [H] and Kyle win the old-fashioned way, by telling the truth, digging for the info that matters, and refusing to compromise. All the hand-wringing "restraint" and "open-mindedness" adds up to is self-promotion and editorial cowardice. Oh, and of course lingering pro-AMD/ATi editorial bias.
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The bottom line is that I personally investigated his claims, and they were 100% false. The rest of these guys can do what they want for their communities. Here at home, we are going to quash the bullshit and make sure the truth is known. Trust me, if I had found out that any company had a rate of return that is way outside the norm, we are going to tell our readers to protect them. I have been in constant communication with BFG on this, and sales and returns on this item have been normal. Actually sales have been tremendously high and RMAs have been normal. For the numbers I was quoted RMAs seemed a bit low.

Bottom line is that there does not seem to be a "problem" with any company's 8800 GT cards. Are there some bad cards? Most likely so. I have never seen a launch of any video card that was without them.
 
nösferatu;1031635841 said:
kyle, i hope you've taken your time before doing this (almost looks like "Banned" is on a hot sale here),

i'm seeing this thread has become attention for some tech site, specifically on pcper, things are not looking good for us, [H]ard community, so i really hope your decision is right.

i don't wanna hear people talk about how low is [H], for i'm a proud [H]'s community member.
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My motto is, "Do the right thing, and don't worry about the idiots in other forums." ;)
 
Good move, Kyle. Definitely ban-worthy offenses (almost as bad as griping about the auto forum moving to genmay ;) ). I bought myself two GT's based on y'all's review and I don't think I could possibly be happier.
 
This guy had three choices:
1) you could just deal with an RMA/tech issue at BFG and leave it at that.
2) you could post a thread about your individual issues and see if others had any problems.
3) you could bad mouth somebody because you just happened to have a problem.

Choice #3, when unsubstantiated is a bad idea.:eek:

I recall about a year ago (or so) there were issues with an nvidia release.....7900GTX I think. The problem was quickly remedied because people on forums posted problems in good faith......after a short while, it became obvious that there was a real consistant problem and it was fixed.
 
Yeah, I think the reaction would have been a lot different if he hadn't singled out BFG and drug them through the mud. As someone who claimed to be knowledgable, he certainly isn't. Everyone knows these cards are all the same and the only differences are in the sticker on the cooler. If there is a problem, it's not a BFG problem.. it's not a local, just in his area problem. It would be the same problem that every hardware product faces.. sometimes some of them just end up DOA. The only recourse is to return/RMA it and get a new one.. not go to every forum making up lies and throwing a quality company under the bus.
 
magoo said:
I recall about a year ago (or so) there were issues with an nvidia release.....7900GTX I think. The problem was quickly remedied because people on forums posted problems in good faith......after a short while, it became obvious that there was a real consistant problem and it was fixed.
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A little off topic, but I remember that issue, and I wish I was a member of an informed forum (I.E. [H]) for the trouble I went through. It would have saved me weeks of complications with a couple of different manufacturers.

Its forums like this that help its members with issues like that, and I for one am glad to have joined it.
 
Honestly... I have had my share of defective cards on an initial launch but that happens. A bunch of friends and I ordered 3 7900gt's on launch.... all 3 eventually died (mine lasted til January of this year though! :p)

But stuff like that happens and all of my friends that have purchased 8800gt's have had nothing but AMAZING results from them. Great Overclocking... installing and working without any problems and none of my buddies have had a DOA card yet.

After reading all of Prophets post... and his POOR grammar...wow...

I honestly feel that BFG may have enough information to form the basis of a Libel suit against him. I am glad the douche got what he deserved.
 
Havent been here in a while, since I graduated out of being peter pan, but it's good to see all is well in never land. :)
 
Sr7 said:
Uh.. there are no Gorillas in marketing.

Try Guerrilla.
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Thank you for the spelling correction. :) As I have stated in the past here,english is not my 'mother tongue' Spelling mistakes aside,you know damn well,what I meant to get across in that post to my fellow members.


rbanzai said:
Although this thread is funny it's a bit scary too. Companies are just starting to figure out how many purchases are decided on forums. Poison pill posts (PPP!) are only going to increase and become more sophisticated, probably in the same way that phishing is slowly evolving.

I just hope we can stay ahead in the arms race.
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We cant really,what I find amusing and worrisome is that no really seems to think about this stuff all that much when shit like this rears its head.


Wolf-R1 said:
Only those that think small would consider join date or number of posts as a sign of intellect. Fact is there's tons of crap spewed forth daily, adding to post counts. Does this mean that they're actually intelligent people?

Furthermore some of us were around since nearly the beginning however life moved in a different direction and we lost touch with the [H]. After a while we came back for whatever reason.

See...post count and join dates don't really mean shit.
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I dont know,I think it can go both ways,as I have seen some stellar posts from some of the 'stank cheese' of late.


phide said:
Nice :)

After checking out his post at PCP, I can only say that I'm quite stunned. What an extremely immoral thing for a person to do to drive traffic to his so-called "tech site". I'm glad he was weeded out here in short order, and the same goes for bobrownik. I can only hope that BFG hasn't been affected by his childish actions.
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I hope the same for BFG,but all the same keep thinking of the 7900GTO (and the GTX's resistor issue)


RussianHAXOR said:
Have you guys seen this? :eek:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/07/8800gt-experience-teethering

its funny that they didnt deduce it was the same guy that started 3 of those threads.
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I dont expect good reporting from them,only sensationalism and stupidty.


A Shiny Demon said:
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Kyle Bennett '08!
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Here's another vote !! :D


D4hPr0 said:
No offense guys, but did you guys forget the GTX launch?? Bad resistor ring any bells?? And let me tell you....NV was not all that quick to admitting they have a problem either, but thats just the way things work. They didnt admit to it until the story got so big that they couldnt ignore it anymore. They said that they fixed all the cards before launch also which was bull. I had 2 EVGA cards with the wrong resistor which were replaced quickly tho.

Does this story about the 8800GT sound like FUD??? I will admit that it does, but I thought the bad resistor on the 8800GTX that plagued most of the launch cards was BS also. So never say never.

I remember a bunch of corporate fuck ups that no one wanted to admit to until they had no choice. So if you think that NV or BFG would come on here and admit they have another launch problem you are pretty fuckin naive. Now Im not saying that I dont believe Kyle and the 8800GT has a problem. Im just saying that some of you really need to stop swinging and just go off the facts. And so far I have not seen an official statement from neither NV or BFG.

And as far as credibility is concerned. Lets think about it for a sec. BFG sell NV products. BFG also advertises here so if they told Kyle there is no problem.......guess what???

Thats what he is going to tell you and unknowingly he could be tellin a lie.

Lets wait for an official statement I say or just wait to see how this plays out.
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Whats truly,truly amazing is what people on here have not picked up on yet..as far as this story goes.The long haul,as they have not been in the wild overly long yet,this 'story' could change in huge ways.Time is the key.


Commander Suzdal said:
The other sites are getting huffy out of greed and professional jealousy. They want to exaggerate [H]'s supposed negativity in order to puff themselves up. It's a pretty cutthroat battle for credibility, mindshare, and the revenue that comes with them out there among tech sites on the net. [H] and Kyle win the old-fashioned way, by telling the truth, digging for the info that matters, and refusing to compromise. All the hand-wringing "restraint" and "open-mindedness" adds up to is self-promotion and editorial cowardice. Oh, and of course lingering pro-AMD/ATi editorial bias.
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I see this to,and think its more prevalent then some would admit.I do think the ban was
a good move as it PFP took it way to far.
 
And Manny, you are right, time will tell. I am just reporting the truth. And the fact is that things are rosy for the GT today, besides stocking issues. Who knows what tomorrow might bring. I know I would not bet any amount of money on anything on a PCB having any sort of longevity. ;)
 
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