The Official HP w2207/w2007 Thread

perfekt green said:
Oh, i know it would definitely be better. The NEC i'm looking at is $399 OEM..but i'm still debating if i REALLY need that much of a better screen, or just get a brand new, cheaper, bigger screen that most people are happy with.

For now i'm leaning towards NEC. Since it would be something i'd be using for a while, it might as well be awesome. and for $399 + shipping and 15 days to play with it, I can't go wrong.
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Yeah, since it's going to be part of your system for a long time, i assume, it's worth "splashing out" on it. I wonder if it'd be better than the Samsung 226BW or HP X2207 for gaming, though.
 
I've looked at this monitor several times at CC, and i think I'll give this one a try. Hope to pick one up by the end of the week.
 
How does this monitor perform when gaming?

Between the two which is better the 20.1" or the 22"?

Is the glossy screen a distraction? My CRT gets terrible glare as my PC is next to a window.
 
needo said:
How does this monitor perform when gaming?

Between the two which is better the 20.1" or the 22"?

Is the glossy screen a distraction? My CRT gets terrible glare as my PC is next to a window.
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The glare all depends on the placement and angle, so that's to your discretion. My monitor is next to a window, where if I move to the left at an extreme angle I can see the window perfectly on the screen. But if I look straight at it, no glare. I think the screen overall is good at balancing the gloss and glare factor, unlike many other, cheaper, monitors. But, again, it's all to your discretion. If you have direct light coming in (not ambient light) onto your screen now, it won't be any different with this monitor, as it all depends on placement.

As far as 20.1" and 22" goes, look at my original post. The 20.1" has a cheaper stand and the 22" is fully featured in that regard. As far as picture quality goes, they run at the same native resolution, you're simply getting a larger picture on the 22" inch. Hope that clears it up.
 
Volume said:
The glare all depends on the placement and angle, so that's to your discretion. My monitor is next to a window, where if I move to the left at an extreme angle I can see the window perfectly on the screen. But if I look straight at it, no glare. I think the screen overall is good at balancing the gloss and glare factor, unlike many other, cheaper, monitors. But, again, it's all to your discretion. If you have direct light coming in (not ambient light) onto your screen now, it won't be any different with this monitor, as it all depends on placement.

As far as 20.1" and 22" goes, look at my original post. The 20.1" has a cheaper stand and the 22" is fully featured in that regard. As far as picture quality goes, they run at the same native resolution, you're simply getting a larger picture on the 22" inch. Hope that clears it up.
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True you will get a larger picture, but the 20.1" will have slightly better picture because of the closer pixel pitch
UPDATE: I just got my 2nd monitor today and no defects:D Just had to mess with the contrast for a while
 
I had a Samsung 226BW and it pales in comparison to the HP. The colors are more saturated, it has less bleed and it has a WONDERFUL stand. I have my old 20.1" next to it and I thought that had good color but it almost looks black and white compared to this.
 
Wow, nice. Good thing I didn't buy that Sammy yet and they're at the same price!

So definately the HP?
 
Was not sure I liked it at first, colors seemed a bit washed out, or to bright. I tried to adjust with the on screen controls and with the "HP My Display" software (this software is buggy!) but could not get it quite the way I like. Then I went out and purchased a Spyder2 Express and calibrated the monitor and WOW what a difference! Photos and games now look amazing! I would highly recommend the Spyder2 Express, it may not be the best but for $69.00 it does a great job. I also purchased an HP 20" w2007 for my wife and it looked great right out of the box with no adjustments.

Steve
 
And what if we don't run Windows/Mac? :(

Does this software tell you what to change your RGB settings too or does it make the changes inside Windows on the driver level?
 
stevew2207 said:
Was not sure I liked it at first, colors seemed a bit washed out, or to bright. I tried to adjust with the on screen controls and with the "HP My Display" software (this software is buggy!) but could not get it quite the way I like. Then I went out and purchased a Spyder2 Express and calibrated the monitor and WOW what a difference! Photos and games now look amazing! I would highly recommend the Spyder2 Express, it may not be the best but for $69.00 it does a great job. I also purchased an HP 20" w2007 for my wife and it looked great right out of the box with no adjustments.

Steve
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I thought the profiles aren't used in games. So shouldn't the games have looked amazing before calibration?
 
Guys,

As I play more with this monitor I'm getting a better and better picture, that is, from amazing to outrightly fenomenal. The software IS buggy. Now, if you think that the picture was great on RGB, wait till you connect via DVI. Many peolple want to see photos. Firstly, imho, photo rendering depends on the quality of YOUR display. Secondly, if people send images from games, they don't reflect real objects naturally, since most are like taken from cartoons or comics. It's difficult to determine whether you want, or don't want the monitor.

Inquiry: I need to know whether people experience some problems with the digital connection, that is, sometimes I have trouble with it when restarting the computer. It goes into RGB and stayes there even as I try to coax it from the menu.

Another thing, it seems that My Display interferes with other software such as Norton Antivirus, the latter couldn't install after My Display was installed. Restores didn't work so I had to reinstall Windows, then installed Norton 2007 and did a restore point there. Then I installed My Display and monitor drivers. Now all seem to be working correctly.

However, prior to reinstalling Windows the monitor was at its native resolution. Windows doesn't detect that during reinstallation. The monitor did NOT adapt to Window's lower resolution at installation (old VGA, 640x480 and then going on to 800x600) so the image flickered and finally disappeared altogether. This may be due to the monitor not being bidirectional or Windows doesn't have full detection capability and then change what has to be changed, or the monitor's firmware is buggy or it doesn't have full communication capability with the computer's OS. For those who attempt reinstallation after the monitor was already configured during the old installation, one solution is to go into F8 at boot time and change resolution after Windows is fully booted. It worked for me.

By the way, Windows' drivers do a very good job detecting and servicing the monitor. Image quality is pretty good, however quality significantly increases after the native drivers are installed. Brightness is at 80, contrast at 75. Good compromise with color quality.
 
Picked my w2207 up today. I was happy to see that all pixels are firing fine (no dead or stuck one's) that I can tell. Color's and fonts were good out of the box, but after some adjustments they really look good. I haven't had much time to really put it through its paces yet, but initially i am very pleased.

Gotta agree with an earlier post - the HP My Display software leaves ALOT to be desired. Loooonnnnggg lag between option changes and the OSD seems to glitch since installation. I think I'll be uninstalling it tomorrow and making all configs via the OSD.
 
I got this monitor April 9 for $380 with 10% off circuit city emailed me valid for april 7-9 out the door with $8.00 CA waste fee got it for $387

now its selling for $329.99 going back to circuit city for their price match guarantee within 30 days. my question is will they still honor the 10% discount with the price match guarantee within 30 days?

is the $329.99 a promo price for the weekly add? will this be the regular price?

thanks
 
alfred_floro said:
I got this monitor April 9 for $380 with 10% off circuit city emailed me valid for april 7-9 out the door with $8.00 CA waste fee got it for $387

now its selling for $329.99 going back to circuit city for their price match guarantee within 30 days. my question is will they still honor the 10% discount with the price match guarantee within 30 days?

is the $329.99 a promo price for the weekly add? will this be the regular price?

thanks
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It's a price for the weekly ad. They most likely will not honor the 10% coupon as it's a one-time use regardless of what the price was at the time. They will simply drop your subtotal to $329.99 then add on sales tax. I'm sure, though, if you're persistent enough and reason with the manager you may be able to make it happen (although very unlikely as the store would lose a lot of money by you).
 
I finally got to see this monitor in person at costco and I think it looked awesome the picture and color quality was alot better then the 226bw that I saw in CC. I just hope there is no ghosting problems while gaming.
 
Alfred_floro: what price match guarantee are you quoting? I wasn't told anything about it instore. Please advise. Thanks, sylva.
 
sylva said:
Guys,

As I play more with this monitor I'm getting a better and better picture, that is, from amazing to outrightly fenomenal. The software IS buggy. Now, if you think that the picture was great on RGB, wait till you connect via DVI. Many peolple want to see photos. Firstly, imho, photo rendering depends on the quality of YOUR display. Secondly, if people send images from games, they don't reflect real objects naturally, since most are like taken from cartoons or comics. It's difficult to determine whether you want, or don't want the monitor.

Inquiry: I need to know whether people experience some problems with the digital connection, that is, sometimes I have trouble with it when restarting the computer. It goes into RGB and stayes there even as I try to coax it from the menu.

Another thing, it seems that My Display interferes with other software such as Norton Antivirus, the latter couldn't install after My Display was installed. Restores didn't work so I had to reinstall Windows, then installed Norton 2007 and did a restore point there. Then I installed My Display and monitor drivers. Now all seem to be working correctly.

However, prior to reinstalling Windows the monitor was at its native resolution. Windows doesn't detect that during reinstallation. The monitor did NOT adapt to Window's lower resolution at installation (old VGA, 640x480 and then going on to 800x600) so the image flickered and finally disappeared altogether. This may be due to the monitor not being bidirectional or Windows doesn't have full detection capability and then change what has to be changed, or the monitor's firmware is buggy or it doesn't have full communication capability with the computer's OS. For those who attempt reinstallation after the monitor was already configured during the old installation, one solution is to go into F8 at boot time and change resolution after Windows is fully booted. It worked for me.

By the way, Windows' drivers do a very good job detecting and servicing the monitor. Image quality is pretty good, however quality significantly increases after the native drivers are installed. Brightness is at 80, contrast at 75. Good compromise with color quality.
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Hmmmmmm!It may be that buggy software thats causing you those headaches.When i installed my LG software to use with my new LG-L226wt it caused my monitor to do some strange things!Also others have complained about it also.In my case the software runs in the background while the computer is running causing problems with my monitor.I uninstalled the software and the monitor works great now.If they ever fix that LG buggy software i may reinstall again.Uninstall yours and see if it solves your monitor problems!Its worth a try.
 
Sounds like this monitor is a real winner with picture quality and color saturation, but how about gaming? No one has mentioned if it ghosts or not?

Thanks!
 
In response to iviustang50h et al: I just picked up the w2207 a couple of days ago and, no, I cannot detect any ghosting while playing games such as BF2142, CoD2, STALKER, etc etc. I've just come off using a CRT so that says something. It's quick. Really, I dont think ghosting is an issue anymore with these 6-bit FRC driven TN LCD panels.

I also had the Sammy 226 for a few days and the color depth, accuracy, and richness seems better on the w2207. Only thing I dont like about 6-bit TN monitors is the darn FRC used to increase perceived color-depth from 6 to 8 bit. I notice the 'artifacts' constantly, as I my eyes dart around the screen, and often while gaming. It looks like a fine mesh checkerboard. It comes and goes so it kinda plays with your head. I wonder if I'm one of the few people who notices it. It's really the only thing that bugs me about these monitors.
 
Well, i can't speak of gaming abilities on this monitor since I don't consider myself a true gamer (i've got a WoW account and play that when i get the time). I'll leave that one to the hard-core gamers!

The monitor claims to support HDCP via the graphics card. In other words, there is no dedicated HDCP connection on the monitor, only DVI-D and VGA.

The following is a link to the owners manual for this monitor:

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00834092.pdf
 
knuckles0000 said:
Well, i can't speak of gaming abilities on this monitor since I don't consider myself a true gamer (i've got a WoW account and play that when i get the time). I'll leave that one to the hard-core gamers!

The monitor claims to support HDCP via the graphics card. In other words, there is no dedicated HDCP connection on the monitor, only DVI-D and VGA.

The following is a link to the owners manual for this monitor:

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00834092.pdf
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The manual is quite unclear to me, they're talking about HDCP in general but don't really make a statement about whether or not this monitor is HDCP compliant.
 
Hi all,

Joined this forum after looking for reviews on the W2207 and Dell 2407(Rev A04). Here's a quick picture of my setup.

Using these monitors for the last 2 weeks, I've noticed the following:

1) W2207 is a lot crisper then the Dell 2407. The Dell uses the matte anti-glare coating and it causes light shades of colors to look grainy. Personally I don't care how well colors are reproduced on this panel if its accompanied by grain. I've tried changing brightness/contrast with no result
2) Dell shows no backlight bleeding. W2207 upper top and bottom backlight is slightly noticeable
3) Even though colors on TN panels (W2207) are on 6-bit. After comparing with the Dell 2407 with various images I did not notice any banding, Image looked identical on the Dell and HP. Sometimes the HP was showing gradients smoother then the Dell
4) Viewing angles: HP not that great, but better then other TN panels with a matte coating. Dell has pretty good viewing angles, but I don't often look at my screen 60+ degrees off center often ;)


Overall I'm choosing the Hp over the Dell. If Dell did not apply that stupid coating on their panels I would have kept the Dell. My issue with the Dell is the coating and nothing else. It makes colors looked washed out and whites grainy.
I work in an environment with no direct sun-light on the panels, therefore the anti-reflective coating of the HP does not bother me. One thing I did notice about the HP is that exhibits some sort of moire effect at certain times with grey backgrounds. It might be caused by the higher pixel size, but I'm not 100 % sure

http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg1721wc1.jpg
 
I think the moire effect you speak of is the FRC artifacts that I pointed out in my previous post. Is it a checkerboard pattern that's most notable on moving objects (or when you move your eyes across the screen)? Personally, I cant stand it and it makes me want to give up 6 bit LCDs altogether.
 
It definately has 1:1, Just played warcraft 3 in normal aspect ration, not stretched, as far as fps goes, I get alot of tearing in CSS which is unfortunate because I hate using vsync with CSS (seems buggy to me) Half Life 2 didn't tear nearly as much (maybe because it was always 100+fps?) No noticeable ghosting.
 
tpfaff said:
It definately has 1:1, Just played warcraft 3 in normal aspect ration, not stretched, as far as fps goes, I get alot of tearing in CSS which is unfortunate because I hate using vsync with CSS (seems buggy to me) Half Life 2 didn't tear nearly as much (maybe because it was always 100+fps?) No noticeable ghosting.
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But are you sure it's the monitor that does 1:1 (like you selected it in the OSD) or did you do it in your videocard driver?
 
I know this won't specifically answer the 1:1 pixel question but I offer the following for some additional information.

The OSD offers a 'Custom Scaling' option that allows the following two choices:

Fill to Screen — Image fills the entire screen and might look distorted or elongated because of non-proportional scaling of height and width.

Fill to Aspect Ratio — Image is sized to fit the screen and maintains proportional image.

I have read reviews elsewhere that claims this monitor does 1:1 (apparently in 'Fill to Aspect Ratio mode), but I haven't confirmed this yet. If I do get this confirmed I'll be sure to post it (unless someone else beats me to the punch).
 
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