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Interesting that the die-size is the exact same.
We all knew that the '12nm' was really just a slightly improved 14nm, but apparently the actual transistor size isn't what's improved.
TSMC "16nm":
48-nm Fin Pitch
90-nm Gate Pitch
64-nm 2D Interconnect Pitch
0.07µm² HD SRAM
GloFo/Samsung "14nm":
48-nm Fin Pitch
78-nm Gate Pitch
64-nm 2D Interconnect Pitch
0.064μm² HD SRAM
Interesting that the die-size is the exact same.
We all knew that the '12nm' was really just a slightly improved 14nm, but apparently the actual transistor size isn't what's improved.
Interesting that the die-size is the exact same.
We all knew that the '12nm' was really just a slightly improved 14nm, but apparently the actual transistor size isn't what's improved.
That empty space can later be filled with stuff. AMD hinted at a possible 2800x down the line.
I don't imagine the 2800X being a different tapeout versus the 2700/X. It would be a LOT of extra effort for AMD to make a different silicon design for just one chip.
I'm sure they know what they are doing.
https://hardforum.com/threads/amd-may-release-a-ryzen-7-2800x-cpu-someday.1959187/
Respin take 6 months or so? They might stumbled upon some things might be a different stepping for 2700X by that time with different name?I imagine they'll reserve 2800 and 2900 names for TR4 chips using Zen+ dies. So a 2800X may be the next generation's equivalent to the 1900X
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Up to 15% higher density than 16nm, aka TSMC 16nm. The node properties are
TSMC 16nm already was up to 15% less dense than 14LPP. So 12LP brings nearly zero density improvements over 14LPP, which is not strange because despite its marketing name 12LP is just an extension/tweaking of 14LPP.
I don't imagine the 2800X being a different tapeout versus the 2700/X. It would be a LOT of extra effort for AMD to make a different silicon design for just one chip.
I imagine they'll reserve 2800 and 2900 names for TR4 chips using Zen+ dies. So a 2800X may be the next generation's equivalent to the 1900X