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arock1_3

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This is for my kids pc upgrade. I'm all ears :D

AMD Athlon XP 2000+, 266 FSB, 256K Cache Processor - Retail


Model# AXDA2000BOX
Item # N82E16819103383
Specifications:
Model: AMD Athlon XP 2000+
Core: Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 1.67GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included)

price $63.00 dollars
 
Uh...what would be wrong with it? It's just your standard AXP. It's neither the high end nor the low end. It'll probably overclock a fair amount, but you could get a nice mobile AXP which usually hit 2.3+ no problem for only dollars more.
 
I used to have one of those a few years ago. Good cpu, but mine wouldnt overclock more than 50mhz. I would go with a mobile though if you plan on overclocking.
 
ShuttleLuv said:
Uh...what would be wrong with it? It's just your standard AXP. It's neither the high end nor the low end. It'll probably overclock a fair amount, but you could get a nice mobile AXP which usually hit 2.3+ no problem for only dollars more.
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That sounds good, I got 2 other choices and they are mobiles:

AMD 45 Watt Mobile Athlon XP 2400+, 266FSB, 512K Cache - OEM for $79.50

and


Mobile 35 Watt AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+, 266 MHz FSB, 512K L2 Cache Processor - OEM for $77.00
 
arock1_3 said:
That sounds good, I got 2 other choices and they are mobiles:

AMD 45 Watt Mobile Athlon XP 2400+, 266FSB, 512K Cache - OEM for $79.50

and


Mobile 35 Watt AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+, 266 MHz FSB, 512K L2 Cache Processor - OEM for $77.00
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I'd get that 2400+ mobile and overclock it to 3200+ speeds!
 
Dioretsa said:
I'd get that 2400+ mobile and overclock it to 3200+ speeds!
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Good advice if you don't mind OCing.
There has been a lot of success with OCing this CPU.
 
relic said:
Good advice if you don't mind OCing.
There has been a lot of success with OCing this CPU.
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Well, I guess the 2400 it is, thanks everybody :)
 
If you get the mobile you sure as hell should OC further than 3200+ speeds, you should be able to get 2.4-2.7Ghz :)
 
Which mobo do you have in mind? If you are considering a mobile make sure you can adjust the voltage and multiplier. If you can't adjust the multiplier you are going to be stuck with something like X5.

If you can't change the multiplier get a cpu that can do at least 2Ghz. Games sometimes like a little clock speed.
 
thelarry said:
Which mobo do you have in mind? If you are considering a mobile make sure you can adjust the voltage and multiplier. If you can't adjust the multiplier you are going to be stuck with something like X5.

If you can't change the multiplier get a cpu that can do at least 2Ghz. Games sometimes like a little clock speed.
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This is the mobo that I have in mind, what do you think:

CHAINTECH "SKT600" KT600 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL

Model# SKT600
Item # N82E16813152040

Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket A for AMD Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron processor
Chipset:VIA KT600 + VT8237
FSB: 400/333/266MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
IDE: 2x UDMA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS/2,8xUSB2.0(Rear 2),1xLAN,2xCOM,1xLPT,1xGame,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: C-media 5.1-Channel AC'97 Codec
Onboard LAN: 10/100Mb Ethernet by VIA VT6103 PHY
Onboard SATA: 2x SATA 150
Form Factor: ATX
 
arock1_3 said:
This is the mobo that I have in mind, what do you think:

CHAINTECH "SKT600" KT600 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL
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I recommend the DFI Infinity or the ABIT NF7-S..... both use the NF2 chipset.
 
While I certainly agree, Nforce 2, my Via KT266a running 133MHz fsb ran almost as fast as my Shuttle AN35N Ultra @ 166, same memory timings.

Never had a bit of trouble out of my old board until a power surge took it out. I've had issues with older Via chipsets (KT133 can blow me) but 266a and up I can vouch for.
 
I like it how over 90% of already shipped KT800 Pro chipsets cannot function asynchronously. That means the lock doesn't work.
 
My bro in law has a KT800 with no issues. He isn't into overclocking, but as configured I haven't heard of any problems with the KT800 chipset.

As I said, I recommend the Nforce 2 as well, but there's no reason to bash Via when looking at their current chipsets. As far as K8 chipsets, the Nforce 3 had more than a few teething problems as well, so I guess that means Nvidia sucks too?

No, it means Via had some crappy chipsets in the past, Nvidia had some initial problems with the K8 chipsets.

If you wish to continue this argument, might I suggest PM and leaving this guy's thread alone.

One issue with Nforce 2, if using the integrated graphics, which is more than adequate for a kid's machine, use Crucial. The Nforce 2 IGP is damn picky about RAM, Kingston and Kingmax won't setup Windows properly, after setup you can get the system 100% stable, but you will cuss while setting the system up. With Crucial, its simple, fast, etc. If not using integrated graphics, Kingston and Kingmax work fine.
 
Neither of the compaines gets it quite right the first time 'round, but VIA never gets it right. I have to see a working bus lock first. And not just for under 10% of the shipped chipsets... with no explanation as to why.
 
a nice nforce2 board would definantly help in bringing that mobile to 3200+ speeds.
 
Just make sure you order one that specifically says it is a "Thoroughbred" core and not a "Palamino" core... it is my understanding that the Palaminos arte the older cores and run much hotter than the Thoroughbreds. I have a Palamino 2000+ and it runsat about 53C* idle.. It also wouldn't suprise me if the Thoroughbred use a smaller micron process than the Palaminos... I belive the Palamino 2000+'s are .25 Micro (which seems pretty big, but I am pretty sure that is what CPU-Z told me when I got this 2000+)
 
Get an nForce2 Ultra 400 and a 35watt Mobile 2400+ Athlon. The 35 watt cpu's seem to be better overclockers. If your running a motherboard that won't allow you to adjust the multiplier then get the mobile 3000+ Athlon since it's already a 2.2ghz (3200+ speed) right out of the box. Then again, the regular Barton 3200's are only $112 now if you have a 200fsb capable motherboard. My son has my old KT400 based system with my old XP2400+ in it and it does him just fine - cheaply. I guess it all depends on how old your son is and what type of gaming he's into (and how much you want to spend). :)
 
Vegeta said:
Just make sure you order one that specifically says it is a "Thoroughbred" core and not a "Palamino" core... it is my understanding that the Palaminos arte the older cores and run much hotter than the Thoroughbreds. I have a Palamino 2000+ and it runsat about 53C* idle.. It also wouldn't suprise me if the Thoroughbred use a smaller micron process than the Palaminos... I belive the Palamino 2000+'s are .25 Micro (which seems pretty big, but I am pretty sure that is what CPU-Z told me when I got this 2000+)
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Pali's are not available anymore unless you find a really dusty box... Tbird was .18 micron, Pali was .18 micron, Tbred was .13 micron, Barton was .13 micron.

That is still a damn hot idle temp for a pali.
 
First I want to thank everybody that took the time to give me your opinions. Based in the info that I got this is what I came up with, hopefully this is it, but if you don't like something let me know. I'm open for suggestions and thanks again everybody that pitch in. :)
Keep in mind that this system is for my kids 3 and 7 yrs of age no games with extreme graphics are going to be played just kiddie games. :D

JustPC Gazelle Black/Silver ATX Mid Tower Case With 450W PSU, Model "JPC899BK" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Case Type: Mid Tower
Color: Black/Silver
Material: Steel/Plastic
Drive Bays: 5.25" x 3/0, 3.5" x 1/2 (external/internal)
Expansion Slots: 7
Front Ports: 2 x USB, 2 x Audio
Power Supply: 450W
Cooling System: 1 x 80mm Rear Fan
Motherboard Compatibility: ATX
Dimensions: 17.8" x 8.1" x 20.9"(HxWxD) more info-> N82E16811200017 $59.00 $59.00


EPoX "EP-8RDA3I" nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron Processors
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP
FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for Dual Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI 32-bit
Ports: 2xPS/2,1xCOM,1xLPT,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: C-Media 9739A 6-Channel Audio
Onboard LAN: Realtek 8201 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813123208 $58.00 $58.00


Info-Tek ATI RADEON 9600 PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR,128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "R96P-C3H" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9600 PRO/400MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/600MHz
BUS: AGP 4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + TV-Out (S-Video) + DVI
Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 1.5
RAMDACs: 400MHz
Cable/Accessories: S-Video Cable, CD Driver, Manual, Games
Retail Box (See pics for details) more info-> N82E16814240020R $102.49 $102.49


AMD 45 Watt Mobile Athlon XP 2400+, 266FSB, 512K Cache - OEM
Specifications:
Manufacturer: AMD
Model: AXMH2400FQQ4C
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 1.8GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.45V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM (Processor Only) more info-> N82E16819103400 $79.00 $79.00


PDP SYSTEMS 184-Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200, Model PSD512400 - Retail
Specifications:
Manufacturer: PDP SYSTEMS
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184-Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 3
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820220027 $71.00 $71.00


SAMSUNG 40GB 7200RPM Light and Slim IDE Hard Drive, Model SP0411N, OEM Drive only
Specifications:
Capacity: 40GB
Average Seek Time: 11 ms
Buffer: 2MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA133
Features: Fluid Dynamic Bearing Spindle Motor Technology
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Packaging: OEM Drive only more info-> N82E16822152008 $54.00 $54.00


OCZ Dominator2 Heatsink for AMD/ Intel Processor -RETAIL
Specifications:
Compatibility: Socket A up to XP2400+/ Socket 370
Dimensions: 62 x 70 x 44 mm
Bearing Type: Ballbearing
Nominal Speed(RPM): 4200
Max Air Flow(CFM): 21.6
Max Pressure: Not Specified
HeatSink Material: Aluminum
Rated Voltage: 12V
Connector: 3-pin
Noise(dBA): 32
Special Features: Single piece construction; Textured fin technology; Higher fin density than original Dominator more info-> N82E16835103422 $10.00 $10.00
 
arock1_3 said:
PDP SYSTEMS 184-Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200, Model PSD512400 - Retail
Specifications:
Manufacturer: PDP SYSTEMS
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184-Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 3
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820220027 $71.00 $71.00
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i would really suggest getting some name brand value-series ram instead of this, pretty much just incase you run into any problems. value mushkin, corsair, or crucial is only a few dollars extra.
 
That system should be more than adequate for several years for kids that age. They will have a better system than 90% of most adults do (not counting those here on the [H]ard Forum ;) )

That heatsink might not be the best bet since you'll be doing some overclocking. An Thermalright SLK series would be a much better choice if it's in your budget.
 
I second the memory, get cheap name brand if you have to, but don't get an oddball. You will regret it.
 
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