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Addicted to porn? No problem. Addicted to video games? That is worse than porn and socially unacceptable in today’s society. I know this is a fact because this guy said so and the Boston Globe printed it.

Some people come in for trouble with Internet porn. But the computer gamers tend to be harder to treat. People feel a lot of shame around computer games. Whereas, it's socially acceptable to have a porn problem.
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Interesting article. It's not that the psychologist seems to think gaming addiction is more or less damaging than a porn addiction -- it's society in general. Like he said -- how do you explain to someone who doesn't play online games that you spent 40 hours last week trying to get some magical elf pants for your undead warlock?
 
I guess i am a rare example. I'm not ashamed of being a 27 year old gamer. Hell once i get word of a gamer that i work with.. it's all down hill from there. The lan parties start, we will talk about Eve or AOC. maybe some Ut3 in the mix... Ohnoes!!! We should ashamed..

Oh well.. I enjoy gaming, it's my way of relaxing from a long day at work, dealing with a 150 user base and being there network admin...:D
 
If you actually read the article...

"...a typical sufferer seems to be a middle-aged guy who spends 40 hours a week on a quest to find magic elf pants."

ROFL!!!!!!
 
I don't think article is as baseless as [H] portrays it. In my experience, I have known people who couldn't keep a job because they played WoW nearly constantly. A number of them used meth to be able to play for long stretches. Just because we're gamers doesn't mean we should assume that games are somehow above reproach. In some cases, people can and do become destructively addicted to them. That's not the game's fault, but it is an issue we should not trivialize.

It's also worth pointing out that the article didn't say, as [H] implied, that game addiction was "worse" than porn. It said that people with a game addiction have a harder time "coming out" about it than people addicted to porn.
 
don't know why I can't edit my posts but...

Anyways this psychologist isn't talking about normal people who are playing games. His main example is about somebody who put their heart and soul into an account that got hacked and they couldn't deal with the disappointment. He's looking at it psychoanalytically, aka. Freudian, which basically says that your computer symbolically becomes like your mother or something when you become addicted.

I'm not a psychologist but that's pretty far-fetched if you ask me.
 
[RIP]Zeus;1032598399 said:
The lan parties start, we will talk about Eve or AOC. maybe some Ut3 in the mix... Ohnoes!!! We should ashamed..
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Of playing Unreal 3? You should absolutely be ashamed, that game should only be used as a doorstop.
 
littledoc said:
I don't think article is as baseless as [H] portrays it. In my experience, I have known people who couldn't keep a job because they played WoW nearly constantly. A number of them used meth to be able to play for long stretches. Just because we're gamers doesn't mean we should assume that games are somehow above reproach. In some cases, people can and do become destructively addicted to them. That's not the game's fault, but it is an issue we should not trivialize.

It's also worth pointing out that the article didn't say, as [H] implied, that game addiction was "worse" than porn. It said that people with a game addiction have a harder time "coming out" about it than people addicted to porn.
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I'm addicted to EvE-Online.. Only because it's the best mmo i have played to date IMO :D

But i also hold a job, have 2 kids (and they play UT3 and EvE with me) But we also goto the park, play ball, catch, hockey, roller blade. watch a movie on the projector with surround sound. you name it. Hell they even have come with me to some LAN Parties :D

Also i have been known to sit down for 15 hours a day over the weekend on EvE. But thats when i don't have my kids on that weekend. :D also my girlfriend play EvE with me to. so thats a bonus :D
 
[RIP]Zeus;1032598481 said:
I'm addicted to EvE-Online.. Only because it's the best mmo i have played to date IMO :D

But i also hold a job, have 2 kids (and they play UT3 and EvE with me) But we also goto the park, play ball, catch, hockey, roller blade. watch a movie on the projector with surround sound. you name it. Hell they even have come with me to some LAN Parties :D

Also i have been known to sit down for 15 hours a day over the weekend on EvE. But thats when i don't have my kids on that weekend. :D also my girlfriend play EvE with me to. so thats a bonus :D
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I think you are an exception.

The tie-ins to porn in the article are a little bit silly, but I think it's dead on with gaming addictions. They probably should've clarified it better by using 'hardcore gaming' or something to that effect, but nothing about it is frivolous.

Probably the majority of bleeding edge raiders in WoW fall into that category, and a huge amount of less advanced players do as well. The term 'casual' now gets thrown around for anyone that sucks, but there are casual players who are still putting 50+ hours a week.
 
Lets face it guys.. being a gamer doesn't always score so hot with the ladies (although it has worked in my experiences)... consequently the acrobatic stuff you learn in porn may be more usable in bed than getting the to the 100% club in GTA4... hence therefore some are ashamed of their true self.
 
[RIP]Zeus;1032598399 said:
I guess i am a rare example. I'm not ashamed of being a 27 year old gamer. Hell once i get word of a gamer that i work with.. it's all down hill from there. The lan parties start, we will talk about Eve or AOC. maybe some Ut3 in the mix... Ohnoes!!! We should ashamed..

Oh well.. I enjoy gaming, it's my way of relaxing from a long day at work, dealing with a 150 user base and being there network admin...:D
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when did they clone me?
 
well print media doesn't report real news anymore, thats too scary for us average joes...so they have to get their news from somewhere
 
thats why so many nerds dual screen.. you can watch porn on one, and level your barbarian on another.

as the dude says:
"no thanks, i still jerk off manually"
 
I really don't get the big deal. It's just an addiction. Yea, it's a strong one, but we've got meth heads roaming around all day and night looking for their next fix. They'd burn through it all till it killed them. The keyboard isn't all that much different to me in terms of needing that fix. I used to play for hours when I lived at home and had nothing to worry about. Now I can play maybe a few hours on the weekend.
 
Games are more time consuming than porn. I mean you can jerk off twice and it would only take like 20 mins tops. Now try getting anything done in games in 20 mins.
 
What bothers me is he is lumping a lot of people into a coupe of catagories. Primarily the OCD type who latched onto a MMORPG, the walking timebomb that happens to latch onto games (back in the 70' and 80's it was about horror or violent films that were the common trigger item), or the addict personality that has gaming as their drug of choice. Most gamers do not fit there.

Most gamers lead a normal life.

The last bit about the timebombs destroying their harddrives misses a point - often siad people destroy diaries, journals etc in the days before everyone had a computer.
 
I think he has a point about the addiction, it's hard to describe these things to a non-gamer. Trying to explain to your family or therapist about how you felt when you lost your ship, items and implants in EVE is not easy. However to think that someone destroys their hard drive as a form of virtual suicide is stupid. It's because they don't want people to know their secrets. I know that I would not want anyone getting a hold of my hard drives =P

I don't get addicted to MMO-games, I play EVE a few hours a week that's all, but I know of some people who lost their girlfriends because they spent all days playing WoW, that's just stupid IMO.
 
[RIP]Zeus;1032598485 said:
LOL

Oh but i love UT... i been playing Unreal since Unreal came out. UT3 is like UT to me. :D
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UT3 is a pale shadow of UT and UT2K4. I played the three of them back to back a few weeks ago and I still can't believe how royally Epic screwed up there.
 
Croaker said:
What bothers me is he is lumping a lot of people into a coupe of catagories. Primarily the OCD type who latched onto a MMORPG, the walking timebomb that happens to latch onto games (back in the 70' and 80's it was about horror or violent films that were the common trigger item), or the addict personality that has gaming as their drug of choice. Most gamers do not fit there.

Most gamers lead a normal life.

The last bit about the timebombs destroying their harddrives misses a point - often siad people destroy diaries, journals etc in the days before everyone had a computer.
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Spot on. That said, "news" is all about sensationalism and it is very easy to latch onto those very specific, extreme cases such as the WoW addict who shuts himself in his house for a week at a time (we all know these people, god forbid we actually ARE those people :) )
 
dagas said:
<snip> ...I know of some people who lost their girlfriends because they spent all days playing WoW, that's just stupid IMO.
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<begin shill> My friend Felicia made a web series about WoW addicts (she was one herself at one point) and it won a bunch of awards from places like Youtube and SXSW, you might like it! </end shill>

http://www.watchtheguild.com/
 
Anything in excess is horrible for you. Porn addictions can destroy relationships. Gaming addictions can destroy your career.
 
There was a guy at my work who quit his job, stating that working there was interrupting his gaming time. That is the literal statement he put on his voluntary quitting notice.

People like this are what I believe the article is getting at. Not the person who works five days a week and comes home to unwind on their favorite choice of interactive entertainment.

My cousin and her family all play on Xbox Live, and I play with them. They play as a family whereever they go in games, and her brother is on it as well, so we all play together on different games.

Personally, these days if I didn't have GTA 4 I don't know how I would get through the week. Its nice to just let out all my aggression on something that is just going to respawn somewhere else in the game. That and for some reason I am obsessed with finding stunt jumps and finding the most cumbersome vehicles to jump off of with. My latest was jumping the broken bridge with a semi carrying a fuel tanker. Sheer hilarity ensued when I jumped out at the last second, only to have the semi truck roll and crush me as we both landed. Poor Nico.
 
SamuraiInBlack said:
There was a guy at my work who quit his job, stating that working there was interrupting his gaming time. That is the literal statement he put on his voluntary quitting notice.

People like this are what I believe the article is getting at. Not the person who works five days a week and comes home to unwind on their favorite choice of interactive entertainment.

My cousin and her family all play on Xbox Live, and I play with them. They play as a family whereever they go in games, and her brother is on it as well, so we all play together on different games.

Personally, these days if I didn't have GTA 4 I don't know how I would get through the week. Its nice to just let out all my aggression on something that is just going to respawn somewhere else in the game. That and for some reason I am obsessed with finding stunt jumps and finding the most cumbersome vehicles to jump off of with. My latest was jumping the broken bridge with a semi carrying a fuel tanker. Sheer hilarity ensued when I jumped out at the last second, only to have the semi truck roll and crush me as we both landed. Poor Nico.
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so whats so wrong with a guy quitting his job to play video games? honestly. We who live here in America are told that we should live to work... Everything is about the almighty career. To be honest if I would be capable of buying food and necessities without working and do nothing every day except for play video games, i would probably do it, granted i would also sit at home and play guitar and finish my book, but still. I don't see why this is such a bad thing just because people don't want to prop up the artificial economy and would rather enjoy themselves. Remember you only go around once, may as well do what makes you happy.

And as for the relationship angle, i would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER date a girl who wasn't as in to gaming as I was. I would rather stay single in that scenario. I'm attractive enough for a few one nighters if i really get hard up for tail. But NEVER a real relationship with a non gamer.
 
epblash said:
If you actually read the article...

"...a typical sufferer seems to be a middle-aged guy who spends 40 hours a week on a quest to find magic elf pants."

ROFL!!!!!!
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hahahahaha. that's awesome and true for MMO gamers.
 
everything in life is expensive and games are the only way to get away from it.
 
I have a friend that I went to high school with that has logged 11000 hours of WOW since it came out. This is just the time that Xfire managed to log his time on it. He played for a great deal of time without xfire. Anyone know of anyone that has played more?
 
Chombo said:
...Porn addictions can destroy relationships...
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...unless you're married (over 10 years) and sex with your wife is like vanilla ice cream - every single freakin' time! :eek:

Sex with wife vs. porn with beer

no contest...
 
amart565 said:
I have a friend that I went to high school with that has logged 11000 hours of WOW since it came out. This is just the time that Xfire managed to log his time on it. He played for a great deal of time without xfire. Anyone know of anyone that has played more?
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Does he look like this guy?

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Croaker said:
What bothers me is he is lumping a lot of people into a coupe of catagories. Primarily the OCD type who latched onto a MMORPG, the walking timebomb that happens to latch onto games (back in the 70' and 80's it was about horror or violent films that were the common trigger item), or the addict personality that has gaming as their drug of choice. Most gamers do not fit there.

Most gamers lead a normal life.

The last bit about the timebombs destroying their harddrives misses a point - often siad people destroy diaries, journals etc in the days before everyone had a computer.
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True, the issue with the serial killers was a bit misleading. Still, I don't believe anyone that says they maintain a healthy personal life while being a hardcore raider.
 
epblash said:
If you actually read the article...

"...a typical sufferer seems to be a middle-aged guy who spends 40 hours a week on a quest to find magic elf pants."

ROFL!!!!!!
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The point isn't the pants, it's the magic elf that you got them off of.
 
gamers that are addicted can stop any time they want- drug users usually can't.

so the people who are doing something that they can stop are looked down upon more because they choose to do it while it's not understood why by the rest. whereas things like porn its sort of self explanatory as to why they were doing that.
 
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