chameleoneel
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6600 XT consistently beats the RTX 3060 in just about every actual game. 14% better on average.
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Yet another 'help me upgrade my desktop' post - GTX 970 build
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crazycrave
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Price on the RX 6600 at the time and I been running AMD since 2010, Sapphire is top tier Brand for AMD as to be allowed to build the RX 6700 and not be an AMD released product as why no Tech Site reviews of the card.
Also, the Sapphire Pulse RX 6700 released here in Aug on newegg with 3 free games for $369, it has one 8pin power connection and the others made by Power Color and XFX vary, some of theirs has two 8pin connections on the RX 6700 model, the Sapphire model would fit you power supply better.
- Minimum 650 Watt Power Supply
- 1 x 8-pin Power Connector.
- PCI Express® based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard.
- Minimum 8GB of system memory. 16GB recommended.
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crazycrave
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Here is the Sapphire Pulse RX 6600 Lite Edition doing some testing for me in the new Fortnite 5.1 engine, it's hooked up to a Hisense 43" Class 4K UHD LED LCD Roku Smart TV HDR R6 Series 43R6E3
I was trying out the new SSD and 4 x 8Gb = 32Gb, the game destroys 16Gb of system memory setups like noting! also testing ReLive on driver 22 .11.2 as how smooth it records now, and the RX 6600 is gaming and recording at the same time, my RTX 3070 has that same vram limit of 8Gb, I would need to install the RX 6700 to get more vram limit.
I was trying out the new SSD and 4 x 8Gb = 32Gb, the game destroys 16Gb of system memory setups like noting! also testing ReLive on driver 22 .11.2 as how smooth it records now, and the RX 6600 is gaming and recording at the same time, my RTX 3070 has that same vram limit of 8Gb, I would need to install the RX 6700 to get more vram limit.
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You can't run 4k with that cpu just upgrading the gpu. You need to upgrade the whole platform. On my secondary rig I have a 6900k which is the 8 core more cache version of your chip ddr4 3000 with a 3070 and the system can't run 4k pleasurably if we are talking about the recent triple AAA titles from the past couple years. I would go for a 12th or 13th gen Intel platform with ddr5 and a either a 3080Ti or higher if you want a very nice experience otherwise it will be choking even on older titles.
ElevenFingers
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I think it's all subjective really. I've been running 4k/60Hz with my setup for many years now. Yes, for most games I need to scale down the settings and run them at 2k. But I use my computer for much more than just games. For those other tasks, 4k is a must. I haven't played any of the most recent AAA games, but they also aren't my cup of tea. Maybe some of the single player RPGs, but they aren't going anywhere and will only get better and cheaper the longer I wait to play them. The online FPS games are totally disinteresting to me, like on par with mobile games. I'll likely play WH3 once it comes on sale with a few of its DLCs in a year or two and I'm also excited about Kenshi 2. For those two games, I'll have a new system built for sure. A new GPU like the 6700 should get me where I want to be, to play my current backlog of 2015-2020 titles I bought, but still haven't played. I'd also like to revisit some titles I played on low settings, with higher settings now.
The newest cards and CPUs are extremely good, but also extremely expensive and power intensive. I'm hoping that in the coming months some more efficient components will be released, that maximize value rather than absolute power. This is ultimately why I'm deciding to upgrade my GPU now and wait at least 6 months before reconsidering my options apropos a new build.
As it currently stands, I'm leaning towards getting the RX 6700 and maybe a 2 TB M.2 SSD to help speed up my file management and pre-migration cleanup.
I haven't really delved into the complete system upgrade discussion yet for two reasons. Barring a catastrophic failure, I am all in with AM4. The other reason is that when I initially switched to my current platform I was using my old 970. I had the same motherboard as you with a 7700k and a 1070. I was getting more consistent and smoother performance with a 2600 on games that supposedly weren't bound by core count.
I did eventually put the 1070 into the AM4 build.
I'm confident that which ever platform you settle with you will be pleasantly surprised even if you keep using that 970.
I did eventually put the 1070 into the AM4 build.
I'm confident that which ever platform you settle with you will be pleasantly surprised even if you keep using that 970.
It looks like you know what you're doing. I was in a similar position as you this past summer where I built a new computer for myself for the first time in 12 years and really had to spend time reading and learning about pc hardware just to make myself literate again. I honestly didn't even know what an M.2 NVME was and when I heard that it used a PCI-E lane I thought that it meant it got plugged in to the motherboard the way we did old sound cards back in the day. 
Believe me, I know the desire to save money when building a new system and one justification is always going to be that you mainly want to play old games since that is mainly what has caught your eye up until now. That said, once you get that extra power under the hood I find that you will start noticing titles and types of games that maybe are a bit more graphics-intensive than what caught your fancy prior to having your new system. It ends up being a bit of a bummer if you made a couple of decisions that ended up significantly limiting you. For that reason, I do encourage you to select your GPU with your new system in mind as much as possible (provided that it doesn't put too much strain on your old PSU) rather than finding something that conceptually fits somewhere halfway between your old and new build.
Also, keep in mind DLSS and ray-tracing and that these features are best experienced on the RTX 3000 and 4000 series GPUs. You are looking at the performance level where these features will matter and likely moreso in the future.
I echo this sentiment. I say buy the best GPU that your budget and PSU will allow today (the PSU safe limit can be tricky to know exactly, especially with older PSU's, and so I might recommend you making a separate thread here in the PSU subforum to get people's thoughts on what that is if you do choose to go this route). Then, later on when your budget allows, build a new high-end system that will take full advantage of your GPU. You will see a big improvement on your current system, even if your GPU is heavily bottlenecked, especially since you are gaming at very high resolutions where performance tends to be more heavily limited by the GPU.
Believe me, I know the desire to save money when building a new system and one justification is always going to be that you mainly want to play old games since that is mainly what has caught your eye up until now. That said, once you get that extra power under the hood I find that you will start noticing titles and types of games that maybe are a bit more graphics-intensive than what caught your fancy prior to having your new system. It ends up being a bit of a bummer if you made a couple of decisions that ended up significantly limiting you. For that reason, I do encourage you to select your GPU with your new system in mind as much as possible (provided that it doesn't put too much strain on your old PSU) rather than finding something that conceptually fits somewhere halfway between your old and new build.
Also, keep in mind DLSS and ray-tracing and that these features are best experienced on the RTX 3000 and 4000 series GPUs. You are looking at the performance level where these features will matter and likely moreso in the future.
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