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Y doesn't the EGG have the E6850?

I noticed that as well, which didnt please me as I need to order one later tonight to build a PC for someone.

I'd much prefer NewEgg, but alas I'll have to look elsewhere for that one part.
 
I'm sure Newegg has a stockpile of these in their warehouse already. Just waiting to flip the switch to sell these online.
 
I've noticed that Newegg is sometimes a few days to a couple of weeks behind on either getting in the inventory or updating the site after the release of any given product.
 
Depends on how much of the "OLD" junk they want to unload before they release the new stuff..................:D
If it's listed, it will sell................:eek:
 
Do you think prices for the e6850 will drop once the actual street date comes (I noticed they are currently above 300 when supposed to be around 266) or will they remain the same and I should just order one now from a site like buy.com
 
magic507 said:
Do you think prices for the e6850 will drop once the actual street date comes (I noticed they are currently above 300 when supposed to be around 266) or will they remain the same and I should just order one now from a site like buy.com
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The so called MSRP for processors is based on Intel's price for those chips in 1,000 unit quantities. The actual retail prices for those chips are set by market demands.
 
magic507 said:
Do you think prices for the e6850 will drop once the actual street date comes (I noticed they are currently above 300 when supposed to be around 266) or will they remain the same and I should just order one now from a site like buy.com
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From experience, I expect these processors to sell very close to the $266 price point, maybe +/- $10 at most.

Dan_D said:
The so called MSRP for processors is based on Intel's price for those chips in 1,000 unit quantities. The actual retail prices for those chips are set by market demands.
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The question though is how much demand is there for this.

For the record, I do have money riding on July 22, ranging from which retailer will drop the quad-cores first to the price prediction of each processor (real prices). This should be an interesting July 22 :D
 
YoNeX said:
From experience, I expect these processors to sell very close to the $266 price point, maybe +/- $10 at most.



The question though is how much demand is there for this.

For the record, I do have money riding on July 22, ranging from which retailer will drop the quad-cores first to the price prediction of each processor (real prices). This should be an interesting July 22 :D
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I expect the prices to settle near $266 I just wanted to point out that the so called MSRP for these things is the price from Intel in 1,000 unit quantities and NOT the retail prices for them. Most people seem to be unaware of this fact it seems.
 
Dan_D said:
I expect the prices to settle near $266 I just wanted to point out that the so called MSRP for these things is the price from Intel in 1,000 unit quantities and NOT the retail prices for them. Most people seem to be unaware of this fact it seems.
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Yeah but this also brings up an interesting question, if its $266 for 1,000 units, how much for like 5,000? or 10,000? Dare I even say 100,000? We all know the more you buy the cheaper you get it, so that is why prices below the 1K unit is not out of the question.

Although I'm not sure how the distribution channel works, I'm pretty sure that all the major online retailers don't deal with Intel directly, but most likely through their distributor and we know these distributor will order a crap load and pass some of the savings to the online retailers.

However, since the tech industry is based more on demand, you can throw whatever I said above pretty much out the window. i.e. see 8800GTS prices and ram prices.
 
We should also consider that some retailers will take some losses on the CPU expecting buyers to pick other parts at the same time like a motherboard and memory. We call them loss leaders to attract customers in the stores.

It's like groceries selling certain items at a crazy prices in hope customers will pick others items along the way and make a profit.
 
YoNeX said:
Yeah but this also brings up an interesting question, if its $266 for 1,000 units, how much for like 5,000? or 10,000? Dare I even say 100,000? We all know the more you buy the cheaper you get it, so that is why prices below the 1K unit is not out of the question.

Although I'm not sure how the distribution channel works, I'm pretty sure that all the major online retailers don't deal with Intel directly, but most likely through their distributor and we know these distributor will order a crap load and pass some of the savings to the online retailers.

However, since the tech industry is based more on demand, you can throw whatever I said above pretty much out the window. i.e. see 8800GTS prices and ram prices.
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The distributors like Ingram Micro and D&H will buy the parts from Intel and sell them to the retailers like Newegg, Best Buy, Fry's Electronics, and ZipZoomFly. Ingram Micro might buy 10,000 of them, but there is no telling how cheap Intel would make an order of 10,000 of these things. and there is no telling how cheap Intel can actually sell them. Most poeple tend to think that Intel and any other companies for that matter can sell these things at pretty much any price they want to but in truth that may not be the case. We don't actually know and unless you work in that part of the industry, there really is no telling what the real prices of these things are. At best you could possibly buy some of these items at the distributors price, but that's the best case scenario.

I would suspect that Intel would probably give no more than a 10% discount on an order of 10,000 of these things when selling them to the distributor and then the distributor has to make their money back selling them to the retailers. They would probably sell them to Newegg or a company like that for right around $266 (using the Q6600 or E6850 as an example) and pocket a 10% profit on each of the chips or something like that. You have to remmeber that there is very little to no margin in computer hardware. With the exception of a few specific items this is always the case. I would imagine that in regard to something like Intel processors, Intel is the one capitalizing on the margin of these things and the distributor makes far less than Intel does. The retailers make next to nothing on these things most of the time and the only way they make money is on the same of warranties and a few higher margin items that you are likely to buy at the same time your purchasing your processor.

Having worked for retailers and seeing the cost of some of these items you'd be surprised to know how the numbers really work out. I won't get into specific numbers but every time you buy a cable or CDR's you are getting ass-raped and most don't know that. When it comes to things like processors and video cards the only high margin parts are of the super-expensive variety. I will say that a QX6800 has quite a bit of retail markup on it even online and so does a video card like the 8800Ultra and GTX. However their lower end counterparts probably have a 10$ markup or less in some instances.
 
Doesn't MSRP mean Manufacturer's suggested retail price? Either the throwing around of "MSRP" is incorrect, or the actual price Intel sets as a standard for the Q6600 is $266. Someone needs to clarify this with some sort of sourcing outside of the inquirer and sticky it to quiet any confusion.

MSRP, as defined by most market standards is not the price at which the merchants buy the product, but a suggestion (as defined by the name) of what price the manufacturer recommends merchant sells the product. Hence the cheesy clearance commercials on television where the car salesman yells out "these are going out the door for $2000 below MSRP". If the principal is universal, then why would some retailers sell items for a loss?

This needs to be cleared up. Saying MSRP is $266 does not imply that the retailer is purchasing the item for that amount... at least not in most cases of which I am aware.
 
Dethred said:
Isn't MSRP mean Manufacturer's suggested retail price? Either the throwing around of "MSRP" is incorrect, or the actual price Intel sets as a standard for the Q6600 is $266. Someone needs to clarify this with some sort of sourcing outside of the inquirer and sticky it to quiet any confusion.
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That's why I said the so called "MSRP" which tends to be the price of the processors in 1,000 unit quantities. That's the only pricing figures that AMD and Intel release for the processors and it's not actually what they suggest for retail. The truth is there is no real MSRP for processors and their price is dictated soley by market demands.
 
Dan_D said:
That's why I said the so called "MSRP" which tends to be the price of the processors in 1,000 unit quantities. That's the only pricing figures that AMD and Intel release for the processors and it's not actually what they suggest for retail. The truth is there is no real MSRP for processors and their price is dictated soley by market demands.
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Thank you! I think posts indicating "MSRP" as the 1000 lot of processors selling for 266 needs to be edited and clarified.
 
This link is Intels offical pricing as of 1 July and does not reflect the new cores as of yet, most large companise are a bit slow on updating this info as it doesn't reflect live market (retail) pricing.

http://www.intel.com/intel/finance/pricelist/processor_price_list.pdf

Note: Prices subject to change without notice. Prices are for direct Intel customers in 1000-unit tray quantities and, unless specified, represent the latest technology versions of the products. Taxes and shipping, etc. not included. Prices may vary for other package types and shipment quantities, and special promotional arrangements may apply.
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1,000 unit tray quantities are OEM processors and not retail boxed processors. (Just to clarify.)
 
One of the sites that reviewed the processor has the link for Newegg. It's the latest review on todays news.
 
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