XP 3000+ vs. XP 2500+

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Hondaman4ever

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The XP 3000+ is a 400 FSB chip, whereas the 2500+ is only 333, I plan on using the processor on a DFI Lan Party Ultra B. Which processor will give me more bang for my buck, I guess is what I'm asking. Any and all suggestions welcome.

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if i was you, i'd get the 2500+ mobile. it's $85 instead of $75 but you can lower the multiplier and up the fsb to 400 if you don't want to overclock. if you do want to overclock, the 2500+ mobile is 99.9% guarenteed to hit 3000+ speeds and with less voltage (cooler) as well
 
you mean 3200+ speeds.
just change the fsb from 166 to 200 on a 2500+ and you have a 3200+ (2.2ghz)
i'd personally get an xp-m though :p
 
well, i'd imagine that you'd certainly get 3200+ speeds too. i'm just saying that by manipulating fsb and multi on a mobile chip, he could have his 400mhz fsb but not have anything overclocked if he didnt' want to
 
technically just increasing the fsb fro it's rated speed is overclocking, so if you're gonna do that, might as well go all out :cool:
 
even that desktop 2500+ should be able to oc to 3000+ speeds pretty easily, if not 3200+ speeds.
 
yeah, just starting with a stock 2500+, and upped the FSB to 200, proc went to 3200+ with zero problems. It did heat up a little, but no where near high enough to worry about, I still put a decent heatsink on it, mainly to get it quieter though(though the temps did drop a bit)
 
Cool, i guess its a 2500+ mobile for me :cool:

I am planning on o/c'ing it, but i will have a watercooling setup to go along with it, so temps shouldn't be much of a problem. Thanks for the suggestions.

BTW i was just wondering if the 3000+ was even overclockable. If anyone had any luck with that chip i wanna hear about it. But the majority of people seem to have success with the 2500 mobile, so i guess i will go with that chip.
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
technically just increasing the fsb fro it's rated speed is overclocking, so if you're gonna do that, might as well go all out :cool:
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technically as in what amd says? cause the processor certainly doesn't care how it gets it's speed. in my mind, any combo of fsb and multi that produces a stock clock at stock or lower voltage is not overclocked
 
Hondaman4ever said:
Cool, i guess its a 2500+ mobile for me :cool:

I am planning on o/c'ing it, but i will have a watercooling setup to go along with it, so temps shouldn't be much of a problem. Thanks for the suggestions.

BTW i was just wondering if the 3000+ was even overclockable. If anyone had any luck with that chip i wanna hear about it. But the majority of people seem to have success with the 2500 mobile, so i guess i will go with that chip.
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The non-mobile XP chips have their multipliers locked, so if you want to adjust them, you are outa luck. The XP-M's are not multiplier locked (they can't be, because they use them to throttle for tempertures in mobile computers) so you have more options when overclocking, especially if you are using shittier RAM.

Most 2500's will do 3200 speeds if you go from 333fsb to 400fsb speeds without too much trouble, but with the non-mobile XP chips, you may have to adjust the CPU voltage up a couple notches.

Short version: Get the XP-M 2500+ and you are good to go. :)

-Skystalker
 
dualblade said:
technically as in what amd says? cause the processor certainly doesn't care how it gets it's speed. in my mind, any combo of fsb and multi that produces a stock clock at stock or lower voltage is not overclocked
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It's still running the chip out of spec. While not literally 'overclockin' it falls in the same boat.

Would you consider lowering your DDR timings to 2-2-2 from 3-3-3, without touching clock speed, overclocking?

What about keeping the chip at stock speeds & seeing how low you can push the voltage?

What about running single-processor rated chips in an SMP board?
 
if your getting the DFI board ive seen those things do high FSB's so even if you dont get a mobile (but you should) that board will get you going pretty high.
 
If you dont have the board already.... definitely NONE. Get an A64. It's worth the extra money.
 
NEVER EVER EVER UNDERestimate the xpm's oc'ing capabilities.

my 2500xp-m ocs to 3200+ speeds with NO change in vcore whatsoever. I can do 2.4 ghz rock stable with 1.600vcore (1 step above stock), and 2.525 ghz with 1.725vcore.

currently at 2.42ghz at 1.625vcore. (i need 1.625 cause my mem is oc'ed too)
 
the axpm are great overclockers (ive built 2 =P) but if you dont have a board/heatsink yet i would get a a64 + xp120 + a64.
 
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