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XLibre Linux Distro?

edward78

edward78

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Any good user friendly secure stable ones also rolling, I don't want to have to reinstall a .iso every x years, also a nice DE would be SonicDE (KDE fork for Xlibre). I have Manjaro now, so that, but Xlibre/SonicDE.
 
A bit of a tall order, asking for all these features: user friendly, secure, stable, and rolling, using XLibre as default! But by asking for XLibre, I discern you like to live in the fringes, so you might consider leaving Penguin land and embrace the Daemon, giving GhostBSD a shot. I personally take the more challenging route of pure FreeBSD, but haven't jumped to XLibre yet, though many have reported good success. GhostBSD has switched to using it as default, so that would probably be an easier entry point.

As far as not having to reinstall .iso's regularly, I've not re-installed my main FreeBSD installations in years, covering versions at least from 11.0 - 15.1, and that is even surviving some major hardware changes!
 
Here is a confusing one, from the Garuda forum. What??? That reason sounds like a reason TO use it... I do have Mate GhostBSD trying to figure out a way to get net working, on the new DE Gershwin.
Need to add these to loader.conf
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edward78 said:
Here is a confusing one, from the Garuda forum. What??? That reason sounds like a reason TO use it... I do have Mate GhostBSD trying to figure out a way to get net working, on the new DE Gershwin.
Need to add these to loader.conf
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The main issue as I understand it is xlibre breaks a ton of stuff.
A ton of stuff that developers are simply NOT going to fix for xlibre.

X is Dead. People need to move on frankly. Too many projects are simply not going to bother fixing bugs for Xlibre. I get some people want to continue X development. The issue is simple. X was developed by the industry not users. Linux has a lot of user development happening... however on the big core projects like X. The vast majority of the work was done by industry. Developers being paid to work on it. All of that paid development has moved to wayland. Xlibre is a dead end... anyone can fork a dead project and say it continues. That doesn't bring back the 100s of thousands of dollars in development it had before it was killed for Wayland.

Xlibre is a cool project for dedicated Linux heads that want to tinker. If you are seriously asking for a distro that has it pre baked then I'm sorry its not a project you should be using.

If you really really want xlibre. Run arch. Use it, its there and if you want to squash bugs all the time, editing config files, and probably rebuilding software from source to make it work. It can be done, but I don't see the point other then tinkering.

Serious question. What don't you like about Wayland? Is there a X feature you don't have with Wayland?
 
edward78 said:
Any good user friendly secure stable ones also rolling, I don't want to have to reinstall a .iso every x years, also a nice DE would be SonicDE (KDE fork for Xlibre). I have Manjaro now, so that, but Xlibre/SonicDE.
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Devuan almost fit this requirement. It's based on Debian Stable, so you can use it indefinitely without reinstalling, just upgrade. No systemd bloat. Xlibre is not built in, but you can install it in few minutes via external apt repository. That's how I use it, it's been rock solid.

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Code: 
$ sudo head -n4 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[2026-08-13 11:14:27]
XLibre X Server 1.25.2.2
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[2026-08-13 11:14:27] Current Operating System: Linux ryzen 7.1.3+deb13-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 7.1.3-1~bpo13+1 (2026-07-12) x86_64
 
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ChadD said:
The main issue as I understand it is xlibre breaks a ton of stuff.
A ton of stuff that developers are simply NOT going to fix for xlibre.
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A ton of stuff? like what?
Xlibre does not break anything. It just fixes certain stuff which was never fixed in Xorg. I am using it on two machines, have not experienced any problems. I do 3D gaming, no problems with that either. Main computer from the sig is on 24/7 on xlibre.
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X is Dead. People need to move on frankly.
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Oh okay...and Wayland is buggy. Many functionalities are not there yet. I used it for around a year on Fedora, and a ton of stuff (really, this time), didn't work. Like some desktop recording tools, or remote control tools, blurry fonts on non-default DPI, mouse and keyboard manipulation, list goes on. I endured a bit but, but what's the point? I moved back to X. Wayland been in development for what, 15 years? Maybe it needs another 15 to squash all the bugs.
People don't need to move anywhere - this is Linux. Fragmentation is built-in. Just look how many distros and desktop environments are out there. Xlibre, being Xorg continuation, can live and be productive for many, many years to come.

ChadD said:
Xlibre is a cool project for dedicated Linux heads that want to tinker. If you are seriously asking for a distro that has it pre baked then I'm sorry its not a project you should be using.

If you really really want xlibre. Run arch. Use it, its there and if you want to squash bugs all the time, editing config files, and probably rebuilding software from source to make it work. It can be done, but I don't see the point other then tinkering.
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I think you never run it and talking from your ass. Xlibre is just plug and play dude. Unlike Wayland, in Xlibre everything works.
 
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pioruns said:
A ton of stuff? like what?
Xlibre does not break anything. It just fixes certain stuff which was never fixed in Xorg. I am using it on two machines, have not experienced any problems. I do 3D gaming, no problems with that either. Main computer from the sig is on 24/7 on xlibre.

Oh okay...and Wayland is buggy. Many functionalities are not there yet. I used it for around a year on Fedora, and a ton of stuff (really, this time), didn't work. Like some desktop recording tools, or remote control tools, blurry fonts on non-default DPI, mouse and keyboard manipulation, list goes on. I endured a bit but, but what's the point? I moved back to X. Wayland been in development for what, 15 years? Maybe it needs another 15 to squash all the bugs.
People don't need to move anywhere - this is Linux. Fragmentation is built-in. Just look how many distros and desktop environments are out there. Xlibre, being Xorg continuation, can live and be productive for many, many years to come.


I think you never run it and talking from your ass. Xlibre is just plug and play dude. Unlike Wayland, in Xlibre everything works.
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Agree there, for **** sake KDE, put a bloody gamma control in KDE & Nvidia put a way to adjust Brightness/Contrast/Gamma/Saturation in your settings app... KDE has WAY less $$ so, still annoying that Wayland is nearly 20. Nvidia get you head out of AI's *** & put a way to adjust the appearance in your settings app!!!!! Ok, are most Linux/Open app devs. children. If I ask on a distro forum (Zorin OS are grown ups about it, so don;t count them(, anyway closed. The KDE devs say the XLibre guys are fascist, Debean accept 1, say they are Nazis. WHY all the hate, the BSD guys are good with XLibre....
 
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edward78 said:
Ok, are most Linux/Open app devs. children. If I ask on a distro forum (Zorin OS are grown ups about it, so don;t count them(, anyway closed. The KDE devs say the XLibre guys are fascist, Debean accept 1, say they are Nazis. WHY all the hate, the BSD guys are good with XLibre....
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No, that's just the way people are. It's always been that way, people are tribal. Every now and then you can get a couple groups to work together on something amazing, before it devolves into insults and slurs, or someone sabotages things, or they fork into another project and say the original project devs are za deeble.
 
edward78 said:
Agree there, for **** sake KDE, put a bloody gamma control in KDE & Nvidia put a way to adjust Brightness/Contrast/Gamma/Saturation in your settings app... KDE has WAY less $$ so, still annoying that Wayland is nearly 20. Nvidia get you head out of AI's *** & put a way to adjust the appearance in your settings app!!!!! Ok, are most Linux/Open app devs. children. If I ask on a distro forum (Zorin OS are grown ups about it, so don;t count them(, anyway closed. The KDE devs say the XLibre guys are fascist, Debean accept 1, say they are Nazis. WHY all the hate, the BSD guys are good with XLibre....
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I guess they didn't hit their quote of rainbow sporting devs. That seems enough to be called a nazi project these days.
 
In relation to font DPI scaling, as far as I'm aware X11 (and by extension XLibre) doesn't actually have the explicit functionality for scaling, it simply uses a larger font size. Wayland actually scales the image just like any other 'modern' OS.

However, if you just want to increase or decrease the font size, such functionality is entirely possible under Wayland.
 
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