Xigmatek HDT-S1283

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  1. Runedrune

    Runedrune Limp Gawd

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  2. Runedrune

    Runedrune Limp Gawd

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    Guess no one wants to talk about it =p
     
  3. delvryboy

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    Works well. I got mine at mwave for under $30 shipped.
     
  4. blanghorst

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    Yes, but does it fit on the Asus Rampage Formula?

    I am about to pull the trigger on the Rampage Formula and am looking for a good heatsink/fan so I can OC the E8400 I bought. I bought the E8400 retail package so I guess I will have a fan/heatsink to use in the interim, but I would prefer to go with the Xigmatek to see how high I can push it.
     
  5. raygan_gamer

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    consider this HDT-SD964 also. it has 4 heatpipes vs 3 with HDT-S1283...some say performs better than Thermalright 120 Ultra at cheaper price.
    Save your receipt just in case they offer a free replacement bolt-in kit.
    The push pin seems...not secure
    here's a thread about S1283
     
  6. blanghorst

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    Good point -- I was thinking about getting the Thermalright LGA775 bolt-thru kit to use with it as well. Newegg seems to be out of stock, so I'll need to dig it up elsewhere.

    Aside from that, one other question regarding the Xigmatek 1283 -- does anyone know if it would be too tall to fit inside of a Cosmos S case? I'm considering both the regular Cosmos and the Cosmos S, but I've heard the Cosmos S might be a little narrower and that some heatsinks might be too tall. Any ideas? Maybe I should post this in the case forum as well.

    Thanks.
     
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    They apparently did offer a bolt kit, back in Feb (saw something on XS I think a while back)... Not sure if they do now.

    Also, may want to keep an eye out for a bigger brother to the S1283/RS1283 - the S1284. More or less the same overall heatsink, same exact fan as used on the RS1283 (white LED, orange blades, 56 [or 65?] cfm PWM fan).. The major difference being it now has 4x8mm heatpipes as opposed to the previous 3. No idea on retail/street date, or pricing, but I'd expect it to still be comfortably under the asking price of the TRUE (fan or not).

    http://www.xigmatek.com/product/air-achilless1284.php

    It's one achilles heel (get it? :p) is that they still insist on using the damned push pins. I don't quite get it. They're obviously targeting the enthusiast market, but the mounting system is catering to the n00bs.
     
  9. delvryboy

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    I bought a bolt thru kit.
     
  10. K2rn2g3

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    ive got one on my asus maximus formula.. fits perfect - though it is very tall ... but doesnt bother me since i dont have it in a case anyway
     
  11. zipdrive

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    I'm using one on my P5e in a Antec 900 case, Excellent cooling for the 3110.
     
  12. baleedit

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    Things like this have been popping up all the time for as long as I can remember after market CPU coolers. When and if it's reviewed by a reliable source as being better than the TR Ultra Extreme I'll buy one. Until then, these other HS's are just cheaper imitations for people that do not require the absolute best air cooling solution and or don't have enough cash to plop down on the Extreme.
     
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    Baleedit -- most of the reviews I've read have the 1283 very close to the TRUE (within a couple of degrees) but it is much cheaper. I don't think I've seen any review where it would be considered 'better' than the TRUE.

    K2rn2g3 -- great news, as if I am not mistaken, the Rampage Formula and the Maximus Formula share the same board layout and cooling, except one is X48 chipset vs. X38 chipset.

    kush -- I had seen the announcement regarding the 1284, but I was not certain when it might be available at retail. I am planning on ordering the final components next week when I return from my business trip, though I guess I could consider running with the retail HSF until I see some reviews of the 1284.

    Regarding the bolt-thru kit, if you guys have recommendations on a reliable place to order one from, that would be great. Newegg and Mwave didn't seem to have them in stock.
     
  14. delvryboy

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    I believe I ordered mine from clubit.
     
  15. JaYp146

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    I've seen the Thermalright bolt-through kit @ Petra's, SidewinderComputers, and SVC. It'll work with any 775 cooler bracket; simply remove the plastic clips, mount backpiece, screw in, enjoy somewhat lower temperatures.
     
  16. bagleymj

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    I'm looking at this too, any known issues with MSI P7N Diamond and Cosmos 1000? I'm guessing a bolt through kit is necessary; I really don't want that thing to crash down on my video card or anything.
     
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    I read a comment where a user claimed the Cosmos S (the 1100) was narrower than the regular Cosmos (the 1000) and therefore, you might have an issue with tall heatsinks only in the 1100 version. However, I looked them up and both are roughly 10.5" wide so I am not sure what the other person was referring to unless the 1100's MB tray is offset/raised more in order to allow for better cable management. I think you'd be fine since you have the 1000 though.

    Here is the link to the bolt-on kit from the list of vendors JaYp146 povided:

    http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/lgbowiscsp.html

    I'm not sure about the fit on the MSI P7N board though.
     
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    Ok now only one question remains.....shit. Forgot. Wait let me think.

    Oh yeh. So it will fit on a rampage formula. But will it fit inside the cm690?
     
  19. tuksonrider

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    I have the 1283. Has 3x 8mm heat pipes w 120mm fan. The 964 has 4x 6mm pipes & 92mm fan.

    Xig is coming out with a 1284 = 4x 8mm pipes in a staggard configuration. Unknown release date.

    The Kingwin RVT-12025 is a rebadged Xigmatek HDT-1283.

    Overall, it's a winner. The only drawback is on AMD chips, it can only mount in one direction.

    I use the TR-775 Bolt-thru kit. Sidewinder has it for $5 last time I got it.
     
  20. delvryboy

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    + $4.60 shipped

    Just stating, 10 bucks still isn't bad.
     
  21. Das Capitolin

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    Hopefully this will be helpful to you; we have posted an article comparing many of the top CPU coolers recommended in our Best CPU Cooler Performance - Q1 2008 roundup.

    All of the coolers used the same fan so that CPU cooler performance was isolated, and all of the products were stock (not lapped or modified). You may find different performance results by using a different fan or modifying the product.

    I'm not sure why they didn't add this to the front page news this morning.
     
  22. Runedrune

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    Oo dude that's a huge help. Thanx alot for the link.

    + so will it fit in a cm690?
     
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    Yeh thats the first site I saw on it and the main reason I plan on buying it.
     
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    Got the HDT-S1283 to use on my new Q9450 on a GA-X38T in a CM-690 case - fits just fine, except I had to remove the side-panel fan directly over the cpu -no big deal. Bought this hsf 'cause 1) great benchies and decent price 2) I'm lazy, and pushpins should have let me install easily without removing mb (probably a mistake in hindsight).

    Huge complaint on this product are the rubber pins that hold the fan on - complete crap! They're too elastic to just press the fan onto them, and pulling them through w/ some needle-nose pliers just stretches them way out of shape. One of the pins ended up tearing, so it is completely unusable - so right now, the fan is just kindof hanging by the top 2 pins and sticking out on the bottom. I'm going to try mounting the fan just using some zip-ties and rubber washers, and that way it should be a lot easier to get off and on when need-be.

    Temps with this hsf and the Q9450 (running at 400x8 at ~1.24v) are not as good as I was expecting. The MB/bios is reading temps from 18c-idle to 33c-load (not bad at all), but coreTemp is reading cores around 48c-idle 65c-load, and realTemp is reading around 38c-idle 55c-load. Seems like the temp programs aren't reading cores correctly yet, but I'm going to re-apply as5 and re-mount (considering lapping, but probably won't) to see if it improves any.

    What other products are available for attaching the fan to hs? Can anyone give links to specific parts that might work better than those rubber pins?
     
  26. Das Capitolin

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    Those rubber latches take some practice, that's for sure. Sorry to hear about your problems... I've been there and it sucks. I don't personally know of which parts you could use to replace it, but I think that a rubber band would be a decent temporary fix.
     
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    Try buying some cheap, but thick paste like some Shin Etsu stuff to fill the gaps, or just try putting some thing slices of your as5 to fill them.

    Report back to see if it helped :)
     
  29. TheInternet1980

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    I grabbed this for a buddy of mine's build.

    Excellent results.

    e6320 @ 3.0, 1.32v

    idles @28C on both cores

    loads @ 55C using prime
     
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    i wouldnt consider that "excellent results". i'm using an ac7 pro with an e6300 @ 3.0, 1.25v and i idle at 25 with loads never over 50

    edit: no offense i just want to point out that the ac7 is considered a budget cooler.
     
  31. tuksonrider

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    I've installed this HSF numerous times on several systems. Here's my take on easily installing the fan:

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    1.) Install all four plugs into the fan BEFORE installing it on the heatsink
    2.) Install the Fan to the HS on ONE side only. You should be able to swing it like a door
    3.) Install the HSF to the CPU/Motherboard. You should be able to swing the fan out of the way to install using the pushpins OR the TR 775 Bolt-thru kit
    4.) Once the HSF is mounted, swing the fan closed, and mount the plugs to the fins by pulling the fan downwards, then upwards into the fins.

    To uninstall, just reverse the steps above. Pull one side downwards until the rubber mounts release from the fins.

    The rubber mounts are INCREDIBLY elastic. Pull and push one side to install or uninstall the fan. Always remove the mounts from the fins of the HS, never remove them from the fan itself.

    Everyone has their favorite technique for installing TIM on HDT bases. Here's how I did it, and it seems provides the best uniform spread for me.

    [​IMG]
     
  32. JaYp146

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    ^^^ tuksonrider, excellent post. Will help those of us upgrading to the 1283. :)

    Also, does anyone have this cooler installed in conjunction with Thermalright's Bolt-Thru 775 kit? If so, did you have any problems with installation?
     
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    i am using the xigmatek with MSI P7N Diamond and it is a flawless install. It has about half a fingers width between it and the Northbridge sink, so plenty basically) I highly recommend the bolt thru kit as you will have a solid foundation this way. Temps are very good with my Q6600 here. Room temps are about 74-76f and at idle this is at 34-38c across the cores. Ive not seen above 58c after 4 hour OCCT stress test. I am running at 3.2ghz currently. I am using a rather large case(Thermaltake Armor) with side 25cm fan. The outside nub of one of the pipes grazes the fan when the side door is on. Nothing to be alarmed here, just a slight bump to push the door on. The pipe is never hot enough to melt anything and ive not one single problem in this respect.

    Another point id like to add. Some may find this useful in mounting the rubber plugs to the fan. Use one drop of dish detergent on the nub before trying to pull through the hole. It will save you time and headaches and ensure a secure mount. Cheers.

    Hope that answers some questions.
     
  34. baleedit

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    OK, they got the Xigmatek at #1. That's cool, I could believe that.
    They got the Ultra 120 at #2. Hmmmm, I'm starting to smell a bullfart, but that's believable too.
    Now I see they have the Ultra 120 Extreme at #4, and this is on their temp chart. OK, now I know why I smelled the bullfart, cause I just stepped in bullshit!
     
  35. Ocellaris

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    They noted the curve of the heatsink base may have been affecting the temps:

    [​IMG]
     
  36. Mad_CatMk2

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    the problem is that he didn't state his room temperature, so we might not know the delta/change in temperature from room.

    I also have this cooler and considering I am in Hotlanta right now and my room is a whopping 20-22 degrees celsius (my school's dormitory aircon is a bitch). I'm idling at 35-37 on my e6750...decent enough for a 15 degrees idle delta.

    Amazingly, on load, it sometimes only jumps another 15 degrees or up to 20-25 degrees for more demanding applications.
     
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    Excellent post, tuksonrider! I wish I saw that when I tried slapping a fan on the thing after pre-mounting the rubber gizmos on the heat sink first. Ended up ripping one up but was still usable.

    And the tip on application of the TIM. I ended up pulling the S1283 off my 9450 and put a lapped TRUE 120 back on to make it easier to try different fans. I used the AS5 line method using OCZ's freeze TIM and some of the TIM never made it past one of the valleys of the heat sink base such that one pipe didn't have any TIM. Yet the puppy still performed quite well and easily keeps up with the three TRUE applications I've done on this poor 9450 (to try and see if I can improve things like another poster mentioned with core temps on the 9450).

    JaYp146 - I had to use the bolt through kit as I busted one of the push pins. Absolutely no problems at all.
     
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    OO thanx everyone for your opinions on it. Makes this a whole lot easier for me. Specially since I know now that I can put it on my rampage formula and in the cm690.
     
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    Last time I used the AS5-recommended horizontal line method, and when I pulled off the hs last night, I had a very pretty little stripe right across the entire cpu, but about a 1/4+" gap at the top and bottom where the paste had gotten stuck in the cracks of the outside heat-pipes and hadn't gone any farther.

    This time I applied the as5 to the heatsink instead, putting the horizontal line on the center heat-pipe and also some very small lines ('bout half the center one) on the outside pipes to make sure they were covered.

    So far my temps are down a couple of degrees (cores ~54c under load) - nothing too impressive, but I'm pretty happy w/ it, so I'm going to leave it for a while to see if it gets any better once the paste cures. How big a difference can I expect once the as5 cures?

    Great info -thanks! Too bad it's too late for me and my rubber mounts :( For some reason, I figured it'd be easier to install the mounts in the hs and just snap the fan on once the hs was mounted - obviously didn't work… also, I'm not sure if that hinge method would work with my cm690, as I have the top-fans mounted and they are pretty-much right up against the hsf. At this point, I think the only way I could successfully use the included rubber mounts would be to have the mb out of the case and install the fan completely before mounting hs.

    I installed the fan again last night using zip-ties to hold it on and some rubber washers between the fan and hs for sound dampening, and this method seems to be fairly effective - I especially like it 'cause the zip-ties are disposable, so I've plenty of extras if I want to change out the fan at any time.

    Since I'm fairly certain my thermal paste is applied correctly this time, I think the only way I can lower my temps at this point is probably using a better fan - I've got a sunnon 120 that puts out 90cfm (used to be on my side pannel :) ) - I may put that on there and see if it helps any.
     
  40. TheInternet1980

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    .07 more volts would account for that difference perhaps.
    His rig is also right next to a heating vent, set to 72F. So about a +8C variance from ambient. Not too shabby IMO.

    @ Stock freq/voltage, it was idling in the low 20's, priming in the high 40's.

    I certainly consider those excellent results.