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XCOM Trailer

In regards to it using the X-Com name while being an FPS. Basically, completely ignoring why X-Com was a good game in the first place, which is a good, atmospheric turn-based strategy.
 
This is just what I hate about the gaming industry at the moment.

From just watching the trailer, I get a good impression of the game Im seeing - it looks like alien-hunting fun in a cartoony 60's world.
But - then I realize that this is not the creative brainchild of a small indie dev - it is just another case of a big cooperation trying to capitalize on an old brand. Don't get me wrong, they might be innovative enough for this to be a great game, but I predict a 90% chance of a novel-for-10-minutes badly ported console game, dumbed down for the 10-year-old market

A real shame for Xcom
 
It looks like it could be a cool game but they really shouldnt be using the XCOM name for it. Why the fuck can't a decent studio do a reboot of the original game with the same gameplay mechanics that made it so great?! It's not that much to ask for.

All of the unofficial remakes so far have been pretty crappy and low budget. The studio that did a faithful and good quailty remake of the original would make a killing

Overall, my impression was "just another FPS"... I'm really over them
 
FreiDOg said:
It's not an isometric view of a turned based tactical rpg with full strategic over-world.
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While it would have been nice for another old school XCOM game, those don't really sell that well now-a-days. This is their "reboot", "reimagining", "rewhatever" of XCOM.

I'd say it looks pretty interesting. Could they have just used another name for the game instead of XCOM? Sure.
Does the majority of the gaming population today even know what XCOM is? Probably not, so the name is moot.

Anyway, I'll give the game a fair shot, and not wear my fanboy blinders because it's a different genre now. I believe in judging things for what the are and not what they should have been or what everyone wants it to have been.

Did we already go over this with Fallout?
 
Game looks like it could be fun and interesting, but its stupid to call it XCOM. Its not like its a huge brand with a large fan base that they're trying to market it to. They could easily just call it something else.
 
WhiteZero said:
While it would have been nice for another old school XCOM game, those don't really sell that well now-a-days. This is their "reboot", "reimagining", "rewhatever" of XCOM.

I'd say it looks pretty interesting. Could they have just used another name for the game instead of XCOM? Sure.
Does the majority of the gaming population today even know what XCOM is? Probably not, so the name is moot.

Anyway, I'll give the game a fair shot, and not wear my fanboy blinders because it's a different genre now. I believe in judging things for what the are and not what they should have been or what everyone wants it to have been.

Did we already go over this with Fallout?
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Fallout may have changed genres but it stayed true, imo, to the previous games in terms of atmosphere. This XCOM game from what i can see so far has nothing to do with the previous games. That plus it not being like the original means a no buy for me. just seems like another generic FPS, and we have tons of those, nothing special.
 
WhiteZero said:
While it would have been nice for another old school XCOM game, those don't really sell that well now-a-days. This is their "reboot", "reimagining", "rewhatever" of XCOM.

I'd say it looks pretty interesting. Could they have just used another name for the game instead of XCOM? Sure.
Does the majority of the gaming population today even know what XCOM is? Probably not, so the name is moot.

Anyway, I'll give the game a fair shot, and not wear my fanboy blinders because it's a different genre now. I believe in judging things for what the are and not what they should have been or what everyone wants it to have been.

Did we already go over this with Fallout?
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Oh, I certainly agree that the game itself is a total unknown yet. It looked like it might have promise as a random shooter, and coming from 2k Games, you expect it to be pretty well done. Mainly, it's another bad use of the X-COM name.
When you're reviving a classic series like Fallout or X-COM (or Doom, or any number of series) it's always a fine line between updating it with more current - and usually better - gameplay mechanics, and trashing the heritage.

I think in this case (and actually with several attempts to remake X-COM over the years) X-COM is just name to slap on the box, and did not appear from the admittedly short trailer to really integrate itself into the X-COM universe (not that there's really that much of a back-story to X-COM).
 
FreiDOg said:
I think in this case (and actually with several attempts to remake X-COM over the years) X-COM is just name to slap on the box, and did not appear from the admittedly short trailer to really integrate itself into the X-COM universe (not that there's really that much of a back-story to X-COM).
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But why is XCOM just a name to slap on the box? I refer again to the sure fact (assumption) that XCOM is unknown to the majority of gamers out there, especially console gamers (who are surely the larger demographic this game is aimed twords). And 2K must realize this... right?
 
WhiteZero said:
But why is XCOM just a name to slap on the box? I refer again to the sure fact (assumption) that XCOM is unknown to the majority of gamers out there, especially console gamers (who are surely the larger demographic this game is aimed twords). And 2K must realize this... right?
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I don't agree with that assumption.
I think there are a lot of people who were playing video games in the 90's and are still playing games (I'm certainly among those), and X-COM is a huge name to them.
But I think more importantly is that most game journalists are old enough to know what X-COM means to gaming, and because of the name they will give the game more attention than if it were just sci-fi shooter #3176.

But let me turn that around on you, the time period is wrong for a X-COM game, the setting is largely wrong, if the X-COM name doesn't buy them any publicity or interest from gamers, why would they be using it in a game that appears to borrow none of the series' IP?
 
FreiDOg said:
But let me turn that around on you, the time period is wrong for a X-COM game, the setting is largely wrong, if the X-COM name doesn't buy them any publicity or interest from gamers, why would they be using it in a game that appears to borrow none of the series' IP?
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I will go ahead and say that makes sense. And from here on I will think of this new XCOM as "10 Com" instead, so it's not a totally separate game and not related to XCOM. haha!
 
black_b[ ]x;1035822931 said:
blobs? seriously?
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EXACTLY.

I'm all for a reboot of the series, just like with Fallout 3 and others, but this REALLY looks like shit. "reboot" usually doesn't mean "has absolutely nothing in common with source material" -- it's not even like they took a few creative liberties with gameplay/story/setting, it just looks like an entirely different game with the X-Com name strapped to it.

I will be stunned if this is anywhere near half decent.
 
I love the stark contrast of the comments between this form and the comments in the video.
 
All these opinions off a short trailer? PC gamers are just too damned jaded anymore.
 
Disposed said:
All these opinions off a short trailer? PC gamers are just too damned jaded anymore.
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I would agree with you if you're talking about almost anything else, but it seems pretty obvious that you never enjoyed X-Com like most of us did when it arrived -- to get a sequel to that game, be it a 'reboot' or whatever else, would have been fabulous. Hell we've seen multiple sequels to X-Com in the making that never saw the light of day (anyone remember the unreal engine powered one that was supposed to come out what, ten years ago now?).

It looks like what we have here isn't a sequel at all, or even something remotely close. It doesn't seem to have any of the aspects of X-Com. Obviously, like you mention, this is only a trailer - there is going to be more to see I'm sure. So there's a possibility things will look brighter in the future. Call me pessimistic, I suppose.
 
Disposed said:
All these opinions off a short trailer? PC gamers are just too damned jaded anymore.
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Didn't you know? PC gamers are entitled to every single game made because only their opinions and ideas matter.
 
merlin704 said:
Didn't you know? PC gamers are entitled to every single game made because only their opinions and ideas matter.
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I know I shouldn't feed a troll-like comment like this, but seriously? For someone to express their opinion, in a pc gaming forum no less, on a sequel to one of the most influential PC titles ever is considered entitled?

yeesh :rolleyes:
 
I played the entire XCOM Series way back when and this is not the XCOM I know. But before passing my personal judgement on a not yet released game from seeing only a simple trailer, more information regarding storyline is needed. Time to go searching... :)
 
WhiteZero said:
While it would have been nice for another old school XCOM game, those don't really sell that well now-a-days. This is their "reboot", "reimagining", "rewhatever" of XCOM.
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Despite the high ratings, fan praise, and numerous best game ever made awards, the game only sold 600k on the PC. So an accurate remake would likely outsell the original. Sure it might be still be a niche game, but there's a sizable market for niche games. It's just too many publishers want games that appeal and can be played by everyone. Which of course leads to so much watered down shit and generic games where 90% of them are commercial failures.
 
quadnad said:
I would agree with you if you're talking about almost anything else, but it seems pretty obvious that you never enjoyed X-Com like most of us did when it arrived
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X-COM: UFO Defense is one of the first ten PC games I have ever played. X-COM: UFO Defense is more sacred than all the world's religions combined in a box.

That being said, someone needs to research blaster bombs and navigate one right into the office of whoever is developing this ugly DX 8 looking travesty that has nothing to do with X-COM besides attaching the goddamn name to the brown bag of dogshit.

blobs. seriously?
 
Yossarian22 said:
X-COM: UFO Defense is one of the first ten PC games I have ever played. X-COM: UFO Defense is more sacred than all the world's religions combined in a box.

That being said, someone needs to research blaster bombs and navigate one right into the office of whoever is developing this ugly DX 8 looking travesty that has nothing to do with X-COM besides attaching the goddamn name to the brown bag of dogshit.

blobs. seriously?
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Agreed.
 
BladeVenom said:
Despite the high ratings, fan praise, and numerous best game ever made awards, the game only sold 600k on the PC. So an accurate remake would likely outsell the original.
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Possibly, but compare the sales of those 600k back when the game was made and very few people had home PCs to today. Market penetration was way higher.

Oh, does your 600k also include the number of "UFO: Enemy Unknown" as it is called in Europe?
 
That looks fucking stupid. A bunch of black blobs running around and jumping on people? That's the best they could come up with?
 
X-Com is one of my favourite series and I would have been sad about this if I didn't know about Xenonauts To me, this will be the next X-Com game. If all they do is have the same game mechanics with better graphics and some bug fixes, I'm going to be giving them my money.
 
Zero82z said:
That looks fucking stupid. A bunch of black blobs running around and jumping on people? That's the best they could come up with?
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I really doubt that's all there is to it.
That is like saying Bioshock was just a bunch of burly guys with fishbowls on their head walking around.

I think they have more planned than just the blobs.
 
WhiteZero said:
I really doubt that's all there is to it.
That is like saying Bioshock was just a bunch of burly guys with fishbowls on their head walking around.

I think they have more planned than just the blobs.
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Well, trailers usually show the best, most exciting things about a game in order to attract people and make them want to buy it. If this is the best that 2K had to make a trailer with, then that doesn't bode well for the game.
 
Zero82z said:
Well, trailers usually show the best, most exciting things about a game in order to attract people and make them want to buy it. If this is the best that 2K had to make a trailer with, then that doesn't bode well for the game.
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No, trailers are usually what the marketing team believes to be the most interesting parts they can show without revealing much of anything. More times than not the marketing team is a bunch of suits that wouldnt know a good video game from a horses ass.
 
Hmm, a late 50's, early 60's horror themed FPS made by 2K games using Unreal Engine 2.5... can't say I've ever heard of THAT one before.
 
Disposed said:
No, trailers are usually what the marketing team believes to be the most interesting parts they can show without revealing much of anything. More times than not the marketing team is a bunch of suits that wouldnt know a good video game from a horses ass.
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Considering this is the first showing of the game and it is still TBD, I think you're wrong. Maybe not... but right now that is what I think.

I think they have a lot more up their sleeve than this.

I refer again to Bioshock. Remember that first trailer? Only focused on the LS and BD. Nothing about the actual story, the other enemies, characters, twists, etc.

First looks like this are a taste, an introduction to the world. And I think the XCOM trailer did just that. Started with that peaceful suburbia 1950's feel, some weird shit happens and you fight some black blob things. Some funky block UFO shows up and disintegrates stuff and transforms shapes.

I bet the black blobs are just the beginning of the invasion and stuff escalates from there. I don't see how people could be so short-sighted to assume they are the only baddies.
 
It'd be cool if they built in the base building, research, manufacturing, hiring, and load out control from the original game.
 
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