Xbox graphics Vs. PS2 graphics, which is better?

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and, there is no hassle of PC gaming, sure you have to install it, but we also get frequent patches for the games we play, usually get a no CD patch, and have better gameplay and better multiplayer options.
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Better gameplay and better multiplayer options...right. Once you get the driver that works properly for the game you're playing (For rarely ever do they work perfectly on all the games you want to play...Thief III and the Catalyst 4.6 drivers are a good example of not working correctly), you might have better gameplay...in the RTS/FPS genres, that is. For the action, racing, RPG, and sports genres, the keyboard/mouse can't even begin to compete with the controllers of consoles.

Then there is multiplayer. Sure, you can go online easily enough and have more opponents with the PC, but then again, you've also got to deal with rampant cheating and hacks. Almost every popular game has at least one well-known hack that ruins the competition. Xbox Live, however, barely has any cheats and those that arise are quickly dealt with. The service is also broadband only, which minimizes lag.

To say there is no hassle with PC gaming is ludicrous.

FYI, I find it extremely hard to believe that your computer cost $900, especially with a gigabyte of that particular RAM in it.
 
WickedAngel said:
True HR, but then again, we paid four/five times as much for our PC's as we did our consoles :eek:
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haha yeah. but that's relatively debatable. but yeah, on average, console graphics are better and etc.
 
Stiler said:
bull shit.

Any console is a computer.

Tell me why having a HArd drive is a negative thing? IT HELPS DAMN GAMES, i don't see why someone would not like somethin simply because it has things that help developers and games.

I'd soooooooo much rather have a hard drive to hold all of my saves plus let the game cache bigger textures and such on the HD.
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This is exactly how I feel. So in order for a game console to be good it has to have less stock features? Its against all logic to think like that. "This console has dvd playback, a harddrive capable of storing mp3's, an ehternet port making LAN gaming setup a breeze, but this one has only dvd playback support and a zillion add on ports, so im gonna have to go with the later" It makes no sence to me, thier all pretty much computers, just some are better than others.
 
HRslammR said:
haha yeah. but that's relatively debatable. but yeah, on average, console graphics are better and etc.
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That's a strength of the console market. The developers only have to focus on one exact same specification for all the consoles, unlike for PCs where developers have to keep in mind that the latest P4s and Athlon64s with Radeon 9800s, x800s, nvidia 5900s and 6800s will be playing it, but so will pentium 3s and nvidia geforce 2s and such, so they can't heavily optimize for one particular spec.

Myself, I have a Gamecube. While on paper it doesn't seem like it'd blow the xbox and playstation 2 away, I think it has some slick graphics and I love the games, whereas I don't really like Xbox games and like only some PS2 games.
 
i dont understand how people will still buy the playstation 2 when it is so stinking obvious that the xbox is the best system out there... how stupid do you have to be?! if you visit hardocp forums and have any knowledge about common sense and how to sign up on these forums, then you should have an xbox... dam people, ps2 users are just newbs who go with the media and what everyone is doing and they *think* the ps2 is the best cause everyone else says... people are stupid these days

-warsaw
 
So what makes the XBox a better system than a PS2? Or a Gamecube? Or anything else? The best specs of any console out on the market? Games?

I find that most of Xbox's exclusive games are pretty forgettable, and the exclusive games just can't stack up against the Nintendo lineup. Most of the more decent games are just ports of PC games or are multiconsole games.

Sure, it has integrated broadband and that 8 GB hard drive, but if I wanted to play online games, I'd just go to my comp and load up a game.

Given the choice, I'd take a Super Nintendo or Gamecube over the XBox.

Now start your little flame fest elsewhere.
 
WickedAngel said:
Better gameplay and better multiplayer options...right. Once you get the driver that works properly for the game you're playing (For rarely ever do they work perfectly on all the games you want to play...Thief III and the Catalyst 4.6 drivers are a good example of not working correctly), you might have better gameplay...in the RTS/FPS genres, that is. For the action, racing, RPG, and sports genres, the keyboard/mouse can't even begin to compete with the controllers of consoles.

Then there is multiplayer. Sure, you can go online easily enough and have more opponents with the PC, but then again, you've also got to deal with rampant cheating and hacks. Almost every popular game has at least one well-known hack that ruins the competition. Xbox Live, however, barely has any cheats and those that arise are quickly dealt with. The service is also broadband only, which minimizes lag.

To say there is no hassle with PC gaming is ludicrous.

FYI, I find it extremely hard to believe that your computer cost $900, especially with a gigabyte of that particular RAM in it.
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i'm sorry, but RPGS on pc control wise are better imo. a mouse for clicking all the stuff is much better and more immersive imo then having to auto select things with the controller. But you are probally thinking of RPGS in the since of FF games, which are console rpgs, and i'm thinking of rpgs like Morrowind, gothic, etc which are pc rpgs.

RAcing games control fine on the pc if you want to use a wheel, and of course you know you can easily mod your controller for a ps2/xbox to work on your PC.

Fighting is better left to consoles, aswell as sports and such too (football, etc)

a computer and console both have their own benefits. each have their own great games. Personally i would rather play both sides of the fence instead of just one or the other.
 
BillLeeLee said:
So what makes the XBox a better system than a PS2? Or a Gamecube? Or anything else? The best specs of any console out on the market? Games?

I find that most of Xbox's exclusive games are pretty forgettable, and the exclusive games just can't stack up against the Nintendo lineup. Most of the more decent games are just ports of PC games or are multiconsole games.

Sure, it has integrated broadband and that 8 GB hard drive, but if I wanted to play online games, I'd just go to my comp and load up a game.

Given the choice, I'd take a Super Nintendo or Gamecube over the XBox.

Now start your little flame fest elsewhere.
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flame fest elsewhere? you basically just said one of the most ignorant things in this thread.

a LOT of games are multiconsole these days and usually the xbox has the best run of them. To simply "dismiss" the multi console games is not only stupid, but childish.

Besides, the xbox has good exclusives aswell as imo the best multiplayer support for any of the three systems. Not to mention that EA will be having their sports games on Live! now, whcih will be a huge kicker for sports fans that have an xbox.
 
Hell I'd dismiss the multiplatform games. I didn't buy an Xbox to play NFSU, I got it to play Fable and I sure as hell didn't get a PS2 to play Splinter Cell, I got it to play Suikoden.

The thread's original question has been answered long ago, this is now an argument over how the Xbox is unabashedly superior to any of the other consoles.
 
I find that most of Xbox's exclusive games are pretty forgettable, and the exclusive games just can't stack up against the Nintendo lineup. Most of the more decent games are just ports of PC games or are multiconsole games.
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Switch that PC port statement and you'll be correct...most excellent Xbox titles are ported to the PC. For instance, Knights of the Old Republic was on the Xbox long before it ever reached the PC.

Then again, you have those forgettable exclusives you mentioned...Halo (That "port" can in no way be considered the same game), Rallisport Challenge, Amped 2, Project Gotham Racing, Sega GT 2002 (Easily rivals GT3, though there aren't enough cars), Jet Set Radio: Future, Ninja Gaiden, The Chronicles of Riddick, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, Amped, Gun Valkyrie, Project Gotham Racing 2, Rallisport Challenge 2...

a computer and console both have their own benefits. each have their own great games. Personally i would rather play both sides of the fence instead of just one or the other.
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That's what I've been trying to make realize, but nobody seems to want to accept the fact that they can enjoy something without bashing something else.

For the record, the Gamecube can match the results of the Xbox if used correctly. Metroid Prime is the perfect example of this.
 
Okay, I'll apologize for that post. But it breaks down to the fact that XBox does not suit everyone's gaming needs.

I don't play sports games, and in regards to multiconsole games, I wasn't dismissing them. I was specifically pointing out exclusives, which I feel Nintendo has the best lineup of. In terms of multiconsole games, I'll agree the XBox usually will run them the best and with the best graphics and whatnot, but when you're looking at the exclusive games you just can't play on any other system, which system would you run to?

I'd go to Nintendo. It's nice Xbox has the EA online deal, but I don't play a lot of sports games (ever since Triple Play Baseball went way down the tubes). I was just speaking some opinion, that the best for me is not the best for you or whoever else.

Sorry for any misunderstanding.
 
This thread has really dragged on. How about we just say, "To hell with everyone else's opinions, I'm making my own decisions!".
 
Yes, let's agree to disagree. If we all agreed, that's just no fun and we'd all be mindless little drones drinking at Starbucks or something.
 
BillLeeLee said:
Yes, let's agree to disagree. If we all agreed, that's just no fun and we'd all be mindless little drones drinking at Starbucks or something.
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Mmmmmm Starrrbucksss. ;)
 
warsawtag said:
i dont understand how people will still buy the playstation 2 when it is so stinking obvious that the xbox is the best system out there... how stupid do you have to be?! if you visit hardocp forums and have any knowledge about common sense and how to sign up on these forums, then you should have an xbox... dam people, ps2 users are just newbs who go with the media and what everyone is doing and they *think* the ps2 is the best cause everyone else says... people are stupid these days

-warsaw
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No need to call ppl stupid. One of the main reasons I bought the PS2 over the Xbox is because of Castlevania (!) and the NEW revision SPC-5001 PS2's are Progessive Scan DVD Players. I use PS2 for my DVD playback and Xbox is not a Progressive Scan DVD player. Yes, some games are, but not the acutal DVD playback. That is one feature the PS2's have that Xbox doesn't. Not creating an argument, just adding to the discussion.
 
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