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X800Pro/XT and ?CPU?

daphatgrant

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Hello, I have a X800 related question, since the X800 is CPU limited how low would your CPU have to be in order to see noticeable performance decreases? And also for the X800XT? I have a PIV 2.8C right now.
 
You should probably do resarch on what CPU limited means, and what the retards who say what it means who throw the word around.
 
"The 2.4C and 2.8C GHz X800 systems were CPU-bound in multiple cases as well. Because of this, you’re really going to want a 3GHz Pentium 4 system or preferably, even faster, for the RADEON X800 PRO to truly shine." From The Firing Squad

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/x800_pro_pentium4/page17.asp

I am wondering how low of a CPU you would need to see performance decreases that are bad enough not to purchase the X800 and merit the 9800 series as a better bet?
 
I saw one website that had a review of the X800Pro on multiple CPU's. They showed that 2.6 on down to 2.0A showed a HUGE drop in performance Vs. the 2.8-3GHz+ CPU's. But the 2.6's weren't so bad. Niether was the 2.8. But the 2.4's on down were a different story. My thinking is that if you have a 2.8 or even maybe a 2.6 your going to see a bennifit to getting a X800Pro. But obviously anything over 3GHz is the sweet spot right now.
 
On my side, I've got a 2.4C so I wouldn't really benefit from a X800 compared to a 9800Pro which is 300$ USD less?! or is it just that performances will not be at their maximum on a X800?
 
daphatgrant said:
Hello, I have a X800 related question, since the X800 is CPU limited how low would your CPU have to be in order to see noticeable performance decreases? And also for the X800XT? I have a PIV 2.8C right now.
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I saw and review that compared processors and video cards and where the bottleneck was. I can't find the link or the site it was on but I do remember the Intel 3.0C and the 9800 Pro were a good company for one another; there was not a huge bottleneck.

I'm running an Athlon64 3400+ and I'm waiting for my X800 XT PE. I'm sure I'll have a little bit of a bottleneck with my CPU. I would think the larger the FSB the better for these X800 cards.
 
[BB] Rick James said:
I saw and review that compared processors and video cards and where the bottleneck was. I can't find the link or the site it was on but I do remember the Intel 3.0C and the 9800 Pro were a good company for one another; there was not a huge bottleneck.

I'm running an Athlon64 3400+ and I'm waiting for my X800 XT PE. I'm sure I'll have a little bit of a bottleneck with my CPU. I would think the larger the FSB the better for these X800 cards.
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I just got an x800 Pro and am running it with an AthlonXP 2800+. Would I benefit from a slightly faster processor? Say a 3200+? I'm itching to upgrade so I'd look for any reason to do so at this point. :D
 
That review is the one posted above. Here is the link again in case you're too lazy to scroll up: http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/x800_pro_pentium4/default.asp

I really don't think you'd notice much of a performance decrease unless you plan on playing at 800x600 with no AA and no AF. In most cases, there is only a 5-10 fps difference between the p4 3.2 and p4 2.4. Performance really starts to suffer at around 2.0ghz, however.
 
Dijonase said:
I just got an x800 Pro and am running it with an AthlonXP 2800+. Would I benefit from a slightly faster processor? Say a 3200+? I'm itching to upgrade so I'd look for any reason to do so at this point. :D
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Well you are always going to see a benefit in performance when you upgrade your processor; how much of a performance upgrade will you see who really knows? But to get the most from that card yes the 3200+ and 3400+ are going to help yield the most performance from the X800 Pro/XT's.
 
I am gonna go with the X800 Pro then I guess, there isnt that much of a $ difference between that and the 9800XT. I can always up my system around the Vcard:) later, that and anything from the 9000 up is gonna be a boost from my 8500 that I have right now.(Shes old but I love her) Thanks for all the input I do very much appreciate it
 
daphatgrant said:
I am gonna go with the X800 Pro then I guess, there isnt that much of a $ difference between that and the 9800XT. I can always up my system around the Vcard:) later, that and anything from the 9000 up is gonna be a boost from my 8500 that I have right now.(Shes old but I love her) Thanks for all the input I do very much appreciate it
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you'll love it... just leave it on 8XAA and 16XAF and itll play anything you want with the exception of farcry until you get a good CPU around 3.0 Ghz Intel or A64 2.0+Ghz
 
You might as well get the best card you can afford. Even if your limited by your CPU somewhat now, that doesn't mean you will be forever. You can always upgrade as CPU prices should fall shortly with Socket 939AMD's and LGA775 Prescott's comming out.
 
Farcry is about the most intensive game when it comes to graphics and processor usage. I don't run any AA or AF at all in that game. I run at 1280x1024. I can't stand anything that hovers to close to 30 as a max framerate.

What's playable to me and what's playable to someone else is a different matter. So where I can't stand the performance hit of AA and AF At all in Farcry I am sure there are plenty of people who can. But I think most people will agree that AA and AF can only be minimumly used in Farcry and maintain anything that resembles smooth gameplay.
 
I use 4Xaa and 8xaf in farcry... it makes fraggin much easier with the level of detail that game has
 
Thank you both :D, I am looking forward to messing around with far cry on the new card
 
Below Ambient said:
I use 4Xaa and 8xaf in farcry... it makes fraggin much easier with the level of detail that game has
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What kind of frame rates are you getting? Your system's baseline specs aren't too different from mine. Although I've got no where near the CPU clock speed you do thanks to a healthy OC. I'm just curious how Farcry runs on your machine.
 
So a 2.4C on a Canterwood board, with 1Gig of fast memory running 250Mhz 1:1 would yeild (x12 multi on the 2.4C) 3.0Ghz CPU on a 250Mhz bus..... this would no doubt make the X800 shine.
 
uwackme said:
So a 2.4C on a Canterwood board, with 1Gig of fast memory running 250Mhz 1:1 would yeild (x12 multi on the 2.4C) 3.0Ghz CPU on a 250Mhz bus..... this would no doubt make the X800 shine.
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Mine works pretty good with a Pentium 4 3.0C@3.4GHz. It's only a 227MHz FSB but I'm running my ram at 1:1 and everything's running good.
 
Im wondering if i should upgrade. Not sure its worth it. I will, but im still not sure :)
 
Cali3350 said:
Im wondering if i should upgrade. Not sure its worth it. I will, but im still not sure :)
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Depends on what you plan on upgrading ya know? Are you just going to upgrade the video card? Don't get me wrong if you upgraded your video card you'd get a pretty good performance jump; but you'd get an even larger one if you upgraded the processor and video card... Upgrades are good.. I like them :)
 
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