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X800 PCIe version review up

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oddlycalm

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The first in depth review I've found on the X800 PCIe version was put up by Chris Connolly. The most notable news is that it's clocked a bit slower than the AGP XTPE version. Assuming one could find one to buy (good luck), this would be the fastest PCIe card so far, and it uses a native PCIe implementation as opposed to a bridge chip. What is clear is that it will perform at about the same level as a 6800 GT yet cost half again as much. Looks to me like full on PCIe systems are still out there in the future. A person could put together a decent system, but they would pay considerably more than someone building either an A64 or 3.4C system with a 6800 ultra, both of which would smoke the PCIe system for gaming.
X800 PCIe review

oc
 
thats the card that maximum PC used for theyre dream machine, its pretty nice
 
Since current vid cards haven't maxed out the AGP bus, there's no advantage to PCIex16 yet. It will take another full generation of video processors to maybe do that.

As for the wankers at Maximum PC, they didn't bother to mention that production versions of the card would be de-clocked from the XTPE version. Perhaps the pre-release version they had 4 months ago ran faster...? I suspect that a well tuned FX-53 system with a 6800 ultra could take down their "dream machine" in everything except perhaps the application benchmark. If it hadn't been clocked to 3.97GHz there's no doubt in my mind that the Falcon Northwest minibox would have spanked them in every test instead of just one.... :eek:

I'm in the process of building up a P4 3.4E Intel 925 based system which I will be finishing up in the next few days, so it's not like I'm AMD fanatic or don't know from whence I speak. I suspect it will do nicely for a workstation, but if I were building a pure gaming machine I'd be using something else and saving $700-$1000 while doing it. So far DDR2, PCIe, and Prescott remain unfulfilled promises IMO, regardless what the idiots at Maximum PC are blathering about.

oc
 
i was actually thinking of selling my 3000+/MSi k8n plat/6800NU for a P4 520 3.0 LGA/MSI 915p/gainward 5900NU PCI-E , for upgrade expandability, but i dont know if its worth it right now
 
oddlycalm said:
Since current vid cards haven't maxed out the AGP bus, there's no advantage to PCIex16 yet. It will take another full generation of video processors to maybe do that.

As for the wankers at Maximum PC, they didn't bother to mention that production versions of the card would be de-clocked from the XTPE version. Perhaps the pre-release version they had 4 months ago ran faster...? I suspect that a well tuned FX-53 system with a 6800 ultra could take down their "dream machine" in everything except perhaps the application benchmark. If it hadn't been clocked to 3.97GHz there's no doubt in my mind that the Falcon Northwest minibox would have spanked them in every test instead of just one.... :eek:

I'm in the process of building up a P4 3.4E Intel 925 based system which I will be finishing up in the next few days, so it's not like I'm AMD fanatic or don't know from whence I speak. I suspect it will do nicely for a workstation, but if I were building a pure gaming machine I'd be using something else and saving $700-$1000 while doing it. So far DDR2, PCIe, and Prescott remain unfulfilled promises IMO, regardless what the idiots at Maximum PC are blathering about.

oc
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Dude its not de clocked, that what the xt pci is clocked at, thats what Dell has in thier systems, thats what Alienware has in theres. the xt chip can't all be clocked at xt pe level, hence the low yields, and production of the xt pe is no where.
 
umbra said:
why don't amd 64 mobo's have pci-e !!!!!!!!! :mad:
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no current athlon 64 chipsets support pci-e. there are some upcoming, ie some of the various nforce4 platforms, but motherboards probably won't be available until the first half of 2005.


joEziLLAH said:
Simply, amd doesn't have the funds to jump onto every bandwagon.
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amd has nothing to do with supporting pci-express, they got out of the chipset business awhile ago.
 
Why did they pst far cry results without 4x AA, 8xAF?? That's the first time I;ve seen Nvidia ahead in Far Cry.
 
Sad showing for the PCI-E version ..its almost completely not worth the money. Why spend almost 2 grand upgrading a system (CPU Intel , Ram DD2 , Motherboard and now a PCI-E high end video card) for 10 extra fps a sec?? looks like i am holding off for my PCI-E upgrade for a another year or so.
 
the standard x800xt is faster though...unless this is because of nvidia's new driver's all tests I've seen show that the x800xt is the fastest in UT2004 and Far Cry....

"As for the wankers at Maximum PC, they didn't bother to mention that production versions of the card would be de-clocked from the XTPE version." - ah, I see.
 
Far Cry 1.2 is in Nvidia's ballpark. I've seen varying benchs on UT2K4 and since I don't play it myself I don't have an opinion on that.
 
Blad3 said:
the standard x800xt is faster though...unless this is because of nvidia's new driver's all tests I've seen show that the x800xt is the fastest in UT2004 and Far Cry....

"As for the wankers at Maximum PC, they didn't bother to mention that production versions of the card would be de-clocked from the XTPE version." - ah, I see.
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Thats going to change very soon Blad, It doesn't really matter anymore the xtpe isn't out yet, nV's new drivers are going to be released tomorrow, pretty sure its tomorrow. There is a general 5-10% even 20% on some games boost. Thats a quite a bit for nV being behind in most games by 5 fps....
 
The bottom line is that, for the moment at least, the X800xt is the only high end PCIe card out there, and new drivers from nVidia won't change that. It may not be the fastest or least expensive gaming solution, but it fits in a PCIe X16 slot, runs two DVI monitors, goes about it quietly and has rational current draw. Depending on the work being done, I suspect quite a few will find their way into work stations if what I'm hearing about the image quality is true. An alternative would be to spend a lot more on a pro graphics card.... ;)

I think I'll see if I can get my hands on one and see how well it works for graphics, CAD and video production.

oc
 
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