X2's a Joke?

’m‚³‚ñ said:
One SMP rig will fold faster than a 1 ghz Pentium III. :p Then again, I think a single X2 would fold faster than my two Bartons...
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You will fold at the native speed of the CPU only you will use two clients. Not faster but twice as much work output. Just like running a dual processor machine.

For instance with a 4200 you would do the work of two 3500’s.
 
With an A8V I can understand why. DFI DAGFs are cheap if it means that much to you.
 
Cuts my encoding time in half. If you want something to run Internet Explorer at 500FPS, I have a Duron I can hook you up with.
 
Pretty much. Not certain what the clocks are for either one since I regard the entirety of Rev. E as one big overclocker's wet dream anyway. Think they both have 10x multi. Know they both have 1MB L2 cache per core.
 
ozziegn said:
heh, at $500+ a pop, them freakin' X2s better be performance and some.....

I'm sorry people but spending freakin' $500+ on ANY processor is just plain outright nuts. I dont give a rat's a** if they do score 200 or 300 points higher in synthetic benchmarking tests. chances are, you arent going to notice a bit of difference in real-world testing with that $500+ processor.

but hey, if you have $$$ to burn and if you insist on having the largest e-penis, then I say go for it. spend the $500+ and be happy.
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I definately notice the difference when using single core machines. I think the $500 was well spent, especially since the X2 is the best desktop CPU on the market. I wouldn't trade my X2 for an FX57. My 2.2ghz X2 kicks my 2.7ghz venice in the ass in smoothness by far.
You'd understand when you use an X2, or use one for a while and try using a single core.

But then again, I'm nuts for not settling for the Pentium D. Right.
 
Intel users have been enjoying multitasking performance much like what the X2 brings though not as good of course for quite some time now via HyperThreading. Its just that many AMD fans have never used a Pentium 4 w/ HyperThreading before so this whole idea of being able to do more then thing at a time is a whole new concept :D.
 
burningrave101 said:
Intel users have been enjoying multitasking performance much like what the X2 brings though not as good of course for quite some time now via HyperThreading. Its just that many AMD fans have never used a Pentium 4 w/ HyperThreading before so this whole idea of being able to do more then thing at a time is a whole new concept :D.
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True, to a point. I've used HT P4's before the X2, but my A64's felt smoother still since the only HT P4's I've used have been like 2.8ghz, which are pure crap. The P4 felt.. decent I guess, but HT wasn't enough to make it an enjoyable experience for me. A higher clocked P4 (3.6+) would definately be nice, though.
 
HT's better than nothing, but it's nothing on an actual multiprocessor rig.
 
ozziegn said:
heh, at $500+ a pop, them freakin' X2s better be performance and some.....

I'm sorry people but spending freakin' $500+ on ANY processor is just plain outright nuts. I dont give a rat's a** if they do score 200 or 300 points higher in synthetic benchmarking tests. chances are, you arent going to notice a bit of difference in real-world testing with that $500+ processor.
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I paid 865$us on an Opteron 252 . My "E-penis" is big enough, and its gold plated.

^_^

When I get another Opteron 252, it will really be an amazing rig. And I can't wait to see the folding out of it (700 Points Per Day I bet on average).
 
I paid like $140 or something for a Venice 3000+...my e-penis isn't gold plated but it moves very very fast.
 
ashmedai said:
I paid like $140 or something for a Venice 3000+...my e-penis isn't gold plated but it moves very very fast.
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I think he meant gold plated because the pins are gold, dunno though.
 
I assumed it was metaphorical...don't think I look at the pins long enough to remember what color they are. If it's literally gold plated, cool. Don't think mine is. Could be wrong, not about to haul my proccy out just to find out though.
 
burningrave101 said:
Its just that many AMD fans have never used a Pentium 4 w/ HyperThreading before so this whole idea of being able to do more then thing at a time is a whole new concept :D.
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I know what your getting at, but that is just a tad bit overstated from my experience.

I had a Pentium III 800mhz processor that could do many things at once (although, not the type of things that make/break a single processor).

I'm still amazed when I hear people talking about multitasking, and when I ask, they say something like "AIM AND MSN open at once when playing a game" ;) ;)
Oh the humanity

Basically, unless your a power user, a single processor will do for the most part (I'm thinking of the 13 year old on AOL dialup, or the 50 year olds checking their 401K while listening to some music (without a sound card, most likely)). Heck, most of the time the processors never go past 50% in Non-3D applications for the general public. Although, the general public gets spyware and other "bad things", so the dual core could help them open up more p0rn popups :D
 
BillR said:
You will fold at the native speed of the CPU only you will use two clients. Not faster but twice as much work output. Just like running a dual processor machine.

For instance with a 4200 you would do the work of two 3500’s.
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Thanks for educating me. :rolleyes: I have a dual PIII sitting next to me running two instances of F@H. :p

I'd rather have 2 3500+ and 4 opterons folding for me than 2 Athlon XP's and a trio of PIII's.
 
robberbaron said:
But then again, I'm nuts for not settling for the Pentium D. Right.
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whatever you say man.... whatever you say.
 
I had an FX-55 in my system, upgraded that to a 4400+, and my system is much smoother. I can't tell a difference in my games either. I don't mess with 3Dmark anymore, so I couldn't tell you the difference in those scores.
 
planetary said:
I had an FX-55 in my system, upgraded that to a 4400+, and my system is much smoother. I can't tell a difference in my games either. I don't mess with 3Dmark anymore, so I couldn't tell you the difference in those scores.
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Do you mean it's smoother in multitasking? Because you say you don't notice a difference in games.
 
My 4400+ gives me the ability to drop a full-screen full-proc app to the desktop, answer some IMs, change what songs are next on my internet radio broadcast, possibly pop open firefox and check a forum or two, and drop back into my full-screen resource hog without having anything skip a beat.

Having two cores/two procs is an incredible leap in productivity possibilities, you feel the difference going between apps & desktop, even in how responsive your system is when Windows is loading services. (or, if you're a Linux junkie, well, it uh... since you're not running unneccesary processes anyway, it uhh... makes things betterer?)

No, for gaming, you won't really see a benefit in running dual core, unless you're like me, and need to attend to your streaming radio when playing MxO, or need to go post into a forum while alt-tabbed away from HL2. But if you're like me in your usage... it's a kick in the ass that you won't forget.
 
I also love my X2 and I do the things like the guy above.
The ability to Alt+Tab out of a game (like CSS when waiting to respawn) instantly and hit up a forum or answer some IMs and go back nearly instantly is just AWSOME!
 
Current excellent use for dual-core:

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=47318

Huge jump in Folding numbers over the last week due partly to dual-core (and I have been using some of my cycles on prime95 too! :)



Probable Near Future use for dual-core:

http://www.ageia.com/novodex.html

Novodex, which may become huge with the Ageia PPU's coming out soon, now includes a multi-threading API... Even without a PPU you may get a noticeable boost in your game physics.... I wish they would release the Rocket demo suite with multi-threading built into it.
 
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