x1950pro or 7950gt?

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cuber

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my x1950pro is dying, im pretty happy with its performance but it gets too hot sometimes (79c).
just wondering if 7950gt is on par or better and will it run a little cooler than 1950pro.
or is there any other vcard out there on my price range,
thanks
 
the 7950GT will run faster than the x1950pro, I know it uses less power, but im not sure how much cooler it will run due to its smaller heatsink (reference heatsink), but even then it shouldn't be too bad.

I am not a fan of the x1950pro even tho I have one, they don't like to overclock for shit, and some things about the drivers piss me off .
 
Arnge said:
what is your price range and is it an AGP or PCI-E
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price range is <180$ and pcie.
was looking at x1950xt and x1900xt but the temps and power consumption is making want to go for 7950gt
 
How is it dying? GPUs are way different than CPUs when it comes to thermals. Whereas a CPU may burn at 79C, that's fairly normal for a GPU. Though on the high side, most GPUs will function correctly even at 90-100C temps, and you won't have to worry about permanent damage unless they hit the 110-120C range. At 79C though, that's well within the standard operating temperature. I'm just curious to know how exactly it's dying.
 
Ranari said:
How is it dying? GPUs are way different than CPUs when it comes to thermals. Whereas a CPU may burn at 79C, that's fairly normal for a GPU. Though on the high side, most GPUs will function correctly even at 90-100C temps, and you won't have to worry about permanent damage unless they hit the 110-120C range. At 79C though, that's well within the standard operating temperature. I'm just curious to know how exactly it's dying.
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4 pink/red dot verticle lines in 2d, artifacts in games (minimizing the game for a 1 sec takes it away for a little while). Burnintest shows 50+ Video memory corruption.
 
Simpson5774 said:
the 7950GT will run faster than the x1950pro, I know it uses less power, but im not sure how much cooler it will run due to its smaller heatsink (reference heatsink), but even then it shouldn't be too bad.

I am not a fan of the x1950pro even tho I have one, they don't like to overclock for shit, and some things about the drivers piss me off .
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Now that is plain wrong. Why do you say things like this without telling the truth?

The 7950GT has more "raw" power because it has more pipelines.
The x1950 has more shader power because it has more shaders.

Both are excellent cards. The x1950 tends to be a bit cheaper and faster in games that are heavy into shaders, the 7950 faster in games that use less shaders.

My x1950GT OC's to faster than Pro speeds. You much have gotten a bad card. Not every card OC's well. Never buy a card expecting to OC it. Buy the card you need and "if" you can OC it then you got a bonus.

Here are the facts:

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards...8545eeb5a00d68c98a20865d7&card1=445&card2=466

Shaders/PFR/TFR

7950=13200, 8800, 13200
1950=20700, 6900, 6900

So it all depends on the game you are running. Most newer games are heavy into shaders and the 1950 does very well in these games. Older games that use less shaders and the 7950 wins. As I said you cannot go wrong with either card as they are both good. The games I play are very heavy into shaders (special effects) and as such I picked the ATI (also due to the fact that the Vista drivers are much better with ATI so far)

-JB
 
go with a x1950pro and a nice heatsink and oc youll need the extra shader power as time moves on
 
If you can, reapply some thermal paste on that card. It might help out if the thermal pads are messed up already.:)
 
cuber said:
4 pink/red dot verticle lines in 2d, artifacts in games (minimizing the game for a 1 sec takes it away for a little while). Burnintest shows 50+ Video memory corruption.
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That's what warranties are for.
 
I would just get the X1950GT... save some cash, it's just an underclocked X1950Pro. I was able to get mine above Pro speeds, and with a good cooler, I'm sure I could've hit ~650-675 core.
 
Man I'm sick of threads like these...Every week someone compares these two cards.

Anyway.... the x1950Pro is NO MATCH for the 7950GT 512...deal with it. The 7950 is faster than a 7900GTO and 94% as fast as a 7900GTX. The direct competitor for the 7950GT 512 is the x1950XT with a slight advantage going to the x1950XT mostly due to thin advantage the ATi card has in IQ and 4-5fps in most games (not all) and bang for buck.

The X1950Pro's direct competitor is believe it or not the 7900GS with the GS being at a disadvantage in frame rates in more modern games.
 
Dark Prodigy said:
Man I'm sick of threads like these...Every week someone compares these two cards.

Anyway.... the x1950Pro is NO MATCH for the 7950GT 512...deal with it. The 7950 is faster than a 7900GTO and 94% as fast as a 7900GTX. The direct competitor for the 7950GT 512 is the x1950XT with a slight advantage going to the x1950XT mostly due to thin advantage the ATi card has in IQ and 4-5fps in most games (not all) and bang for buck.

The X1950Pro's direct competitor is believe it or not the 7900GS with the GS being at a disadvantage in frame rates in more modern games.
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Isn't it why 1950pro is compared to 7950gt since shader intensive situations 1950pro can go toe to toe with 7950gt? You know there are 256mb version of this card.
 
Marvelous said:
Isn't it why 1950pro is compared to 7950gt since shader intensive situations 1950pro can go toe to toe with 7950gt? You know there are 256mb version of this card.
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Yes I do know there is a 256MB version. And the only reason these cards are even compared is misinformed/uninformed people and maybe some that's truly curious and there's a pricepoint situation. And the X1950Pro DOES NOT go toe to toe with the 7950GT 512 or 256 version..shader intense 'situation' or not. We play games not 'situations'.
 
Dark Prodigy said:
Yes I do know there is a 256MB version. And the only reason these cards are even compared is misinformed/uninformed people and maybe some that's truly curious and there's a pricepoint situation. And the X1950Pro DOES NOT go toe to toe with the 7950GT 512 or 256 version..shader intense 'situation' or not. We play games not 'situations'.
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How about oblivion? 1950pro beats even a gtx in that game.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8600_gts_preview/page9.asp

What about stalker? A tie with a 7950gt...

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8600_gts_preview/page14.asp

How about Company of Heroes? 1950pro has a slight edge.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8600_gts_preview/page12.asp

Call of Duty 2? A tie?

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8600_gts_preview/page10.asp
 
Alright what x1950 card would you guys get; PRO or GT? Maybe a link to newegg (or whoever)

There are a lot of them and I'm not sure which of them are known to be poor compared to the others; HIS v ASUS v Sapphire etc and amount of memory 256 v 512?

thanks.
 
Marvelous said:
How about oblivion? <snippage>
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*sighS*

Favorable reviews from 1 site on only a few games... I can do that too...Just only with ALOT more games.


Call of Duty 2 and BF2
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7950gt_5.html#sect1

Far Cry
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7950gt_6.html

F.E.A.R., G.R.A.W, HL2
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7950gt_7.html

Prey, Quake 4, Serious Sam2 anyone?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7950gt_8.html


Need I go on? Exactly. Give it up.

-Done.
 
Dark Prodigy said:
*sighS*

Favorable reviews from 1 site on only a few games... I can do that too...Just only with ALOT more games.


Call of Duty 2 and BF2
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7950gt_5.html#sect1

Far Cry
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7950gt_6.html

F.E.A.R., G.R.A.W, HL2
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7950gt_7.html

Prey, Quake 4, Serious Sam2 anyone?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7950gt_8.html


Need I go on? Exactly. Give it up.

-Done.
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I'm just telling you like how it is and you think 7950gt takes the cake all the time. Sure 7950gt has fillrate and bandwidth for older games but that's it. it's no better than 1950pro in newer games.

Why not compare new games like bioshock with UT3 engine? i guess if you want to play higher fps in older games 7950gt is the card for you.

1950pro have better image quality to boot. Give it up??? LOL go away. Don't start something you can't finish.
 
Dark Prodigy said:
Anyway.... the x1950Pro is NO MATCH for the 7950GT 512...deal with it.
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It's a shame they don't make X1900XT 256mb anymore since it's easily better than a 7950GT 512 despite having half the ram. http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTE3MSwxLCxoZW50aGlzdWFzdA==

I guess there are some X1950XT 256mb still available but they're over $200. I see a retail generic brand X1950Pro 256mb on newegg for only $125. And another HIS brand card that's only $115 after MIR. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161060

The only 7950GT in stock is a 256mb model and it costs $180.

Considering the shader emphasis with upcoming games, the dramatically better IQ, and the cost/benefit ratio, I think an X1950pro is the obvious choice over a 7950GT. Although you're correct. Its original competitor was the 7900GS. An X1950Pro is an X1950XT with one quad disabled or removed, I don't know which. :)
 
I'd take the better AF, higher shader power, and HDR+AA myself. Also as another said, you can get the Pro for 115usd with rebate. That's much cheaper than the GT.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161060

I'd don't think the GT is worth +60 some usd.

If you are going to spend around 170usd on a DX9 card go X1950XT for 175usd:

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT...15c3f2ab74ac9d9668e34d3c7498da9126157f3761b19

Better AF, more shader power and can also do HDR + AA.

Review that has all three cards:

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2122&cid=3&pg=5
 
Dark Prodigy said:
Man I'm sick of threads like these...Every week someone compares these two cards.

Anyway.... the x1950Pro is NO MATCH for the 7950GT 512...deal with it. The 7950 is faster than a 7900GTO and 94% as fast as a 7900GTX. The direct competitor for the 7950GT 512 is the x1950XT with a slight advantage going to the x1950XT mostly due to thin advantage the ATi card has in IQ and 4-5fps in most games (not all) and bang for buck.

The X1950Pro's direct competitor is believe it or not the 7900GS with the GS being at a disadvantage in frame rates in more modern games.
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Let me use my mind reading skills here...


Hmmmm you own a 7950 right? *smiles*

-JB
 
I just ordered a 512mb x1950 pro to replace my 7950gt 256mb, hoping to slove my game crashing in graw2, right now my games play fine on my old 6800gs and the 7950gt crashed in my other system as well when playing graw2.
 
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