x1950pro agp or cpu +mobo

wow thnaks but do u understand the core 2 duo's mark in gaming!? im just sayin, but dam i could have sold u my x800xl , its a beuty of a card eh? lol idk whitch one to pick yet though.

o and i need ram, im only at 512mb now, so i think cpu-mobo-ram? ya or no?
 
ya thats true but the mobo only has 1 slot for either ddr or ddr2, i was going to get 1 gig and then aniother along the way. after a newer mobo. o well when it comes can u tell me if its worht it? when does it come in?

where u gonna sell it to or at? i need to sell mine after everything, or if i sell it before i could buy the combo and the vidcard!!!!!!!
 
o ok cool, i the new ads for frys come in 2 days.; so it works out. but can u pm me or somefin when u test it and stuff?
 
If I was in your shoes (again) I would opt to get the MB/Proc combo..Go ahead and upgrade your computer to PCI-E and get rid of the AGP you'll be glad you did..I had the same decision to make last year and Im glad I switched over.
 
The question is, do you want to pay for a new video card, or do you want to pay for a new motherboard, processor, ram, maybe powersupply, harddrive, and video card.

Even if you buy a crappy motherboard and ram you still have to buy a new video card.

So, you chose....
 
ValeX said:
I am in a similar situation, and opted for the new video card. Mine should be here soon!


Reason: Video card will vastly improve gaming performance, whereas the new proc + mobo + ram will not make much of a noticeable difference for the money you're putting in. A good rule of thumb is GPU > all if you want good gaming performance.
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I guess thats ok it you want too be stuck with limited options for the future because your still using AGP.
 
I recommend the video card unless you plan on upgrading the entire box right now. The video card will help out more in games, and the X1950Pro is actually a really impressive performer given it's price.

I'm using a pair of them right now on a review board and they are pretty impressive given the price point they are at.
 
I am considering the same thing right now.

I have an Athlon 2100+ clocked at 2.1ghz (a little better than the athlon 2600+ stock b/c of the higher FSB), 1gb of ram, and a 128mb 6600GT.

I could scrap this system to upgrade to a Core Duo now, or buy this card for $270 shipped and hold off for a few months building a new system. Seems like right now isn't the best time to build a new system anyway especially with DX10 right around the corner.

What do you think? What kind of performance boost would I expect with this card with my 1gb ram and older processor vs my 6600 GT?

How CPU limited would I be?
 
It's all up in the air now.

If you want to upgrade the minimal number of components you have to chose if you want to stick with DDR 1 or not.

If you're planning on keeping your DDR 1 (I am because I have 4GB) You also have to consider that the DDR 1 platforms are all dead ends.

As much as I would like to see what an 8800 can do, I realize that even if I move to an nForce 4 PCIe DDR1 board, it's just as dead an end as my nForce 3 AGP board. The only difference between the two is that an Opty 170 running at 2.5 GHz on my AGP board will be plenty of CPU for an x1950 AGP, whereas the same CPU would hold an 8800 back.

I WAS tempted to go for the 7950 GT PCIe for $199 (after rebate), but it's actually on par with an x1950 and a subsequent upgrade to an 8800 still leaves me cpu limited. The result is a wash, so I passed.

Even if you have money to burn, It's not an easy decision.
 
anonuser said:
I am considering the same thing right now.

I have an Athlon 2100+ clocked at 2.1ghz (a little better than the athlon 2600+ stock b/c of the higher FSB), 1gb of ram, and a 128mb 6600GT.

I could scrap this system to upgrade to a Core Duo now, or buy this card for $270 shipped and hold off for a few months building a new system. Seems like right now isn't the best time to build a new system anyway especially with DX10 right around the corner.

What do you think? What kind of performance boost would I expect with this card with my 1gb ram and older processor vs my 6600 GT?

How CPU limited would I be?
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Wait a month or two. Intel is planning major price cuts on C2D proccessors (we're looking at 15 ~ 20%). Wait until that happens then upgrade. $270 is way too much to spend on an AGP system right now IMO.
 
Thanks for the advice...

I have a Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 930SB 19" CRT monitor... pretty much the best CRT out there so I've held out on upgrading my monitor but I can't take it anymore.

I plan on getting either a 24", 27", 30" or 37" Westinghouse in the next month and was hoping it would coincide with the purchase of a new video card to power the beast or an entire new system.

I'm definitely going to hold off until after CES to make any major decisions, but I guess it would be jumping the gun to purchase the video card now. It's not like I have some high end AGP system, mine is 4 years old now.

I guess I should just wait and do a full new build. When is Intel bumping the Core Duo processors FSB speeds?
 
ok if u can send me those benchmarks that would be sweet! thanks man.

um the reason i wanna buy that cpu mobo combo is because the mobo still has agp, i dont have enough money to buy a new cpu mobo memory and a video card! i just wanna buy the combo to put me off until i can buy a newer mobo for the c2d and a pci-e vidcard, a 8000 series.
 
SLiGuy said:
Wait a month or two. Intel is planning major price cuts on C2D proccessors (we're looking at 15 ~ 20%). Wait until that happens then upgrade. $270 is way too much to spend on an AGP system right now IMO.
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C2D prices are going to drop so much that the combination of CPU,Mobo, DDR2, PWS & Video Card is going to be less than $270?

At the minimum an AGP to PCIe upgrade means Motherboard and Video Card.

If you've got a P4, you can keep your CPU, but in order to get PCIe, you'll need to pickup some DDR2. Even then, you're CPU is probably going to be the bottle neck.

If you're going from a 939 you can keep your CPU and DDR, but unless you're clocking out at or near 3GHz, your CPU will be the bottle neck.

When is a good time to do a platform upgrade? Never actually. You'll always find something better shortly after you've already spend the money on or installed your new gear.

Still waiting for my card to arrive.
 
Agreed, new graphics card will do more damage on gaming performance than a CPU/MOBO upgrade. A faster CPU does play a part in gaming performance but not as much impact as a new video card. However, higher end graphics will contribute more with a higher end CPU because it needs to keep up with the faster GPU. Existing Core 2 cpus will drop in price when Intel releases several new Core 2 cpus that will have the 1333 bus speeds and slightly higher mhz speed on models such as the E6850, E6750 and E6650 with 3.0GHz, 2.66GHz and 2.33GHz clock-speeds respectively and 1333MHz processor system bus.
 
ok well went with the cpu/mobo combo and love it, yet need to take the mobo back and buy a nother one and a newer video card, yay!!!
 
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