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WTF eBay

If you do sell on ebay, buy a store sub for $20 and list everything in a 4% category (like Laptops / tablets)... the $20 saves you money after like $335 in sales.

Amazon fees are just as much, aren't they?

edit: looks like Amazon ranges from 6% (personal computers) up to 20% (gift cards)... mode looks to be 15%. Not exactly cost savings compared to ebay.
 
Disposed said:
It would be nice if you would stop looking at it from a shortsighted knee jerk stance.

Competition = lower seller fees etc. too. You wanting a costomer base held hostage by one place is not in your besty interest because you too are just as hostage.
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Except that I don't have a problem with the seller fees as they are now. I don't want something for nothing. I do want a global marketplace that concentrates sellers and buyers in a single place. I have no interest to spend my time posting to 4248129 different sites just to save $5 on a $100 sale because the opportunity cost of doing so is much greater than $5.

Likewise I am happy to buy on eBay because it's one place where I can quickly get what I need, check out, and be protected even if I buy something from Asia. The few times I had problems as buyer or seller the issues were resolved to my satisfaction within a reasonable amount of time.

That's what I am paying the eBay fees for; access to the largest group of buyers and sellers in one place, and protection if something goes wrong (which btw Amazon doesn't offer at the level eBay does, especially for sellers).

There are already free alternatives en mass, yet I don't sell on forums of CL because to me the hassle of doing so isn't worth the few bucks saved.
 
Matthew Kane said:
Yeh the latest ebay fees on shipping is fucking bullshit. They say they're encouraging free shipping but what's the fucking point when they'll just take it out of item you're selling.
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they started doing this because so many people would just sell their item for a dollar and then charge the real worth of the item in shipping costs. Can't blame them.

ebay is fine if you sell a lot of stuff all the time. if you use it for small cheap junk every so often it isn't worth it. I do like that my money goes into paypal. Most places take paypal for payments so it works out when you buy and sell.

Amazon just wants you bank account or you never get your money if you sell. Amazon has been nagging me for over a year about like 4 dollars in funds I have waiting from selling some books.
 
They really are too expensive.
After calculating the fees for three items sold recently...(including taking a massive hit for shipping cost over what was suggested) + PayPal fees, I wound up giving almost 1/5 away.
Now I just buy there....not sell.
 
just sold something on ebay for $98, their fee was $20.64, and with the cost of shipping i got about $65 from the sale.

then again last time i sold something on amazon, the person changed their mind and had it shipped back, so i was out $18 for shipping
 
illli said:
just sold something on ebay for $98, their fee was $20.64, and with the cost of shipping i got about $65 from the sale.

then again last time i sold something on amazon, the person changed their mind and had it shipped back, so i was out $18 for shipping
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And that is why you do not do free shipping. And on any returns, you require the buyer to pay return shipping.

Ebay fees are kind of high, but you do get a much bigger buyer base then posting on Craigslist or similar.
You also generally don't have to deal with people offering you 25% of what you are asking like you get on Craigslist.

And don't get me started on yard sales. I've had a few yard sales, and price stuff accordingly as I am not having to deal with any extra costs.

People still try to offer you about 20-25% of what you are asking for stuff.. and then get angry when you won't give it to them for the price they want to pay.
 
I don't really do ebay. I am just a casual seller. First I try forums and amazon. I am not the kind of person who is in a rush to get the money so if i have to sit on something a little longer in order to get the price I want, I will. I sell here, anand and amazon mostly.

I check ebay for the price it would cost on there and then lower it a little. Sometimes you can make a lot more money on stuff listed on amazon.
 
Paying the fees sucks but they are a business and frankly if you take any item to a physical auction you or the auction winner will end up paying around 15% give or take to the company that auctions your item off. I think ebay should more clearly list their prices so thaty they make a little more sense but what they charge is far from unreasaonable. If it were unreasonable there wouldn't be millions of active listings around the world.
 
I just recently sold a Venom-X on eBay and the fees were 13 dollars and some change!! I'm done selling on there, it's a total rip off, good thing I didn't charge for shipping!!
 
Hey guys I'm thinking about selling my 290x on ebay, should I be worried about scam buyers exploiting the "item not as described", or do graphics card transactions usually go smoothly?

And would be hard for me to sell it on Amazon if I've never sold anything on Amazon before?
 
EnhancedInterrogator said:
Hey guys I'm thinking about selling my 290x on ebay, should I be worried about scam buyers exploiting the "item not as described", or do graphics card transactions usually go smoothly?

And would be hard for me to sell it on Amazon if I've never sold anything on Amazon before?
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I know a lot sell computer components on eBay but I don't. Too much stupidity on eBay. I lost on a deal years ago where a guy bought my Athlon 64 to replace his Pentium 4 and claimed it was defective because it wouldn't work.

PayPal sided with him and I got a mangled cpu back because he literally tried shoving it in the wrong socket.
 
Disposed said:
I know a lot sell computer components on eBay but I don't. Too much stupidity on eBay. I lost on a deal years ago where a guy bought my Athlon 64 to replace his Pentium 4 and claimed it was defective because it wouldn't work.

PayPal sided with him and I got a mangled cpu back because he literally tried shoving it in the wrong socket.
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I don't think these kinds of things happen much anymore. But seriously how could they side with him? Not only was it a different socket its not even the same company lol.
 
ssnyder28 said:
I don't think these kinds of things happen much anymore. But seriously how could they side with him? Not only was it a different socket its not even the same company lol.
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Because ebay/paypal sides with the buyer almost every single time regardless of who is really at fault.
 
What if there was a middle ground?

Where the seller has limited risk, the fees are lower and the buyer has a non DOA promise?

Am I crazy?
 
I think it just helps to eb as thorough as possible, there is risk selling anywhere online where the seller has the ability to file a claim. If you are overly thorough (being very descriptive in your listing, and taking photos of everything to show condition, etc.) it can only reduce your risk but you'll never be 100% protected anywhere you sell.
 
ssnyder28 said:
I think it just helps to eb as thorough as possible, there is risk selling anywhere online where the seller has the ability to file a claim. If you are overly thorough (being very descriptive in your listing, and taking photos of everything to show condition, etc.) it can only reduce your risk but you'll never be 100% protected anywhere you sell.
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Steam seems to be 100% protected on the games they sell. They literally tell you that service is never guaranteed. No Refunds for any reason.
 
Craigslist blows, CL is full of the most ignorant consumer base I have ever encountered, every time I post large items that are too hard to ship on CL I realize why ebay is so successful. People on CL put negative amounts of thought into what they post and ask. You spend so much time answering the dumbest questions any idiot could check on the internet on CL. This is why ebay can get away with this.

Second CL is pretty much limited to your city and what people buy there, and often that means mostly people who know not a thing about tech , or anything else you are selling. They ask ridiculous prices for garbage. You all know about the ice storms this winter that brought down half the trees in MI right? What do you think moronic CL posters did after that? Ya after half the trees in the city came down these moron were trying to ask for money for other people to come to their house and clean up their trees for fire wood. It never occurs to these morons, because it cost them nothing to list how economics might actually work. Sorry CL doesn't work and even at 10% I still often make more money on ebay than what the low ballers would give on CL you know the ones who think an X5X level GPU is high end.

That said honestly the paypal ebay monopoly is pretty bad. It should have never cleared regulatory approval. But hopefully the new coming format war for money transactions by phones will result in some shake ups.
 
I think Ebay is great for selling small things that can be shipped in a legal size padded envelope and the item costs less than $50.

I've been using forums like [H] and my new found sellers spot, local Facebook groups, for the more expensive electronics.
 
rudy said:
Craigslist blows, CL is full of the most ignorant consumer base I have ever encountered, every time I post large items that are too hard to ship on CL I realize why ebay is so successful. People on CL put negative amounts of thought into what they post and ask. You spend so much time answering the dumbest questions any idiot could check on the internet on CL. This is why ebay can get away with this.

Second CL is pretty much limited to your city and what people buy there, and often that means mostly people who know not a thing about tech , or anything else you are selling. They ask ridiculous prices for garbage. You all know about the ice storms this winter that brought down half the trees in MI right? What do you think moronic CL posters did after that? Ya after half the trees in the city came down these moron were trying to ask for money for other people to come to their house and clean up their trees for fire wood. It never occurs to these morons, because it cost them nothing to list how economics might actually work. Sorry CL doesn't work and even at 10% I still often make more money on ebay than what the low ballers would give on CL you know the ones who think an X5X level GPU is high end.

That said honestly the paypal ebay monopoly is pretty bad. It should have never cleared regulatory approval. But hopefully the new coming format war for money transactions by phones will result in some shake ups.
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yep, on CL i get ridiculous lowballs. Like people offering half of what i'm asking, even less than half sometimes. The last time I sold something to someone on CL the guy looked like a drug addict. literally.
All his teeth were rotted away, he looked like a skeleton. He talked to me for like an hour about government conspiracies and how they put chips in people etc. He would never shut up, and just kept talking and talking. I finally had to interrupt and make an excuse to get out of there. Then as we were leaving the store (i picked a public place thankfully) something in his backpack trigger an alarm.

Considering he was so anti-law and such, he started to argue with the employees about his civil liberties and whatever else bullshit, claiming nobody had the right to look in his personal items etc.
Meanwhile I was stuck in the middle of all this since I had gone with him lol. To top it all off when it came to money he lowballed me on the spot, even though he agreed upon my asking price before we even met up. I ended up just selling it to him for $25 less than my agreed upon price just to get away from him.
 
I avoid all these issues by not selling anything unless its to people I know.
The last thing I sold on Ebay was about 8 years ago.
This way I keep my peace of mind which is worth far more than money and I give away a fair amount of stuff which makes more friends, again worth far more than money.
And nobody gets to scout inside my property to see whats worth nicking, cant put a value on that.
 
Yeah Ebay blows now!!

I found out about the new fees the hard way. I though I was doing great when I sold my 7950, until I got my statement and found out that it cost me about $70 to sell the thing after ebay & paypal fees.
 
Incramus said:
Yeah Ebay blows now!!

I found out about the new fees the hard way. I though I was doing great when I sold my 7950, until I got my statement and found out that it cost me about $70 to sell the thing after ebay & paypal fees.
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You sold your 7950 for almost $600?
 
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Yeah it used to be tons cheaper I feel bad for people trying to make living off that site.
Amazon needs to get into the auction business.
 
i just sell broken stuff or overpriced junk no one wants to buy on forums. I paid 60 last month invoice and 15-20 in pp fees. Sucks but once you know then you start to pay attention.
 
Ebay gets your product out to many people and they know it so they have been inching up the fees for years now, a great screw job.

fees/PP runs roughly 13% and if you toss in free shipping because people hate paying for that your out another 10-15.

Sell an item for $100 you are lucky to get $75 actual.

Unless Amazon sets up their seller style like ebay or least makes it compete Ebay will continue to rob you silly for listing.
 
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I have been dealing with this ebay crap for a year now. After reading this forum i think im going to move to CL and forums only :)
 
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