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WTB: 5800X3D
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The x3d's are overvalued in my opinion, id suggest a non x3d version, it's still second best for the platform, but I bet you could get a used one of those for around $100, even new at microcenter like $130 for the 5700x
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You really do not need an X3D to play games.
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Hell yeah. I went from a 3600XT to a 5600X and I thought it was awesome. Then I got a 5900X and beast mode was activated. 5800X can still boost to 5GHz and it will dust that old dinosaur.
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I had a 5800X and upgraded to a 5800XT.
That's just because my friend wanted the old one, but I'm still glad I upgraded.
That's just because my friend wanted the old one, but I'm still glad I upgraded.
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What, I got a pretty mid bin on my 5800x, I can barely do 4.5-4.6 ghz all core on a water cooler, even with undervolts.
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The X3D parts are no gimmick, however, getting one cheap is a tricky endeavor. If your daughter is playing games at 1440P or less the X3D Parts are totally worth it. If she's playing at 4K, it's almost always a waste of money (though not always).
5800X3D is going to be essentially unobtainable at this point. You will likely find the 5700X3D and that will be the closest you get
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-57...qid=1750252285&sprefix=5700x3d,aps,145&sr=8-1
If you're thinking 5800XT, I would skip that logic. Go with the 5800X if you're already plunking 149 on the XT. The XT is a lower clocked, inferior, late release part to recycle junk silicon.
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-58...=1750252327&sprefix=5800x,aps,150&sr=8-1&th=1
The 5800X is only 160 bucks and It's a solid processor and great upgrade from where you're at with the current CPU.
MAKE SURE YOU UPGRADE YOUR BIOS BEFORE YOU DROP THE 5000 series part in . Some upgrades may be irreversible, so perhaps pick the update prior to the doom an gloom one (though I think only 300 series boards need that update).
Gaming at 1080P and 1440P will get a substantial boost from the 5700X3D in most games.
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Hold up, none of those are true about the XT, the XT boosts higher at stock, and, according to most user experience, is a substantially better bin in most cases, due to the mature manufacturing process. Also, it comes with a stock cooler that you can always resell to recoup costs. And, finally, even the 5700x is typically a better bin, also because of mature manufacturing.
Okay, finally finally, a 5700x-5800xt is more than enough for a 1080ti, regardless of slight boost clock differences, and the x3d won't do much with a 1080ti, if it was something like a 5090, yeah, then X3D matters.
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Yeah, +20-30 FPS with a 1080Ti is totally not worth it at all...
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1fnjqn5/went_from_2700x_to_5700x3d_same_1080ti_gpu_wow/
the 5800XT could be better if you like screwing with Overclocks and turbo clocks and the curve optimizer. If you want to set it and forget it, the 5800X is still a better option. I doubt his daughter is gonna become Overclocker of the century especially on a Ryzen 5000 series which is pretty much locked into a certain range of performance anyway.
If you wanna save 10 bucks go with the 5800XT for MAYBE a +1% gain. Due to it's ability to turbo higher. But it's s tock clocks are lower and in a system with whatever cooling for longevity i would choose the higher base clocked 5800X over it any day for solid performance.
Great discussion here. I don't game much anymore and still have a R7 1700 and AMD R9 290 but I just realized my Asrock AB350M Pro4 can support newer processors. Probably will upgrade to 5700x or 5800. In the process of keeping up to date with CPU and GPU tech.
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Just so you are aware. When I upgraded my MSI B350 to be able to run the 5000 Series processors, it's a one way ticket. The BIOS also loses some base level functionality to make room for the microcode... like RAID functionality is lost if I am not mistaken. AMD hadn't really planned long term for their earlier boards. Though they did end up supporting them all in the end. Once you flash for the 5000 series, you can't run other older CPUs anymore.
I pushed the update to my B350 MSI Tomahawk and then pulled the CPU and dropped in a 5600GT, it was a huge upgrade even from the 3400G I had in there. My data throughput almost doubled (use as a server) and I was able to fully max out 5G NIC sustained transfers from my hardware RAID array.
Moving from an R7 1700 to any 5000 series CPU will feel like mega overkill. It will breathe new life into your system and blow you away. All for minimal investment.
Even with the R9 290 the X3D parts will give you a huge boost in 1080P and 1440P.
1700 to 5700x will be roughly +10-20 FPS, it's about 40+% faster. (probably more like +20 FPS in most games)
1700 to 5700x3D will be roughly +20-30+ FPS, it's about 45% Faster the 3D Vcache is what really kicks butt in most games.
The R9 290 is a solid graphics card that still holds up incredibly well today. Even if it's "unsupported"
You might as well buy a 5800x if you are thinking of the 5700x because it's cheaper by 5 bucks
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5800X-16-Thread-Processor/dp/B0815XFSGK/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3LBSDV12S2TCL&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.cSmaxkAMBOvw_sNitFzMpYxgdejcqtLGOd448FmhnXbI9PGNz0sBbAL4NR4bd5H_Wif3hCoCYJz5A9kMFTUFnvLKRG21vLrUXu0B9Ox-uxC1SakMY763XLc8mMuT3xozcJ6NkRLfMolT3zyVflcBmSJN8wGFB_OmfVs1sDlhbDkbZ0zwdEa4_ES1t7jND1fuqstEavCprtnolNU56wnOyWLdC36HlqarFK5q8VtoC58.AUoZ2qgXc3dyPLHItrdAnltweY4Ho5C2h1ue7rfmrBM&dib_tag=se&keywords=5700x&qid=1750263973&sprefix=5700x,aps,167&sr=8-3
Not sure what your Overclocking desires are but the 5800XT is 149 and will clock higher, but i wouldn't recommend screwing with it if you're looking for an in place upgrade. It may turbo higher, might give +1% but .. personally I wouldn't go that route. Got my uncle into a 5800X and he's been solid for years. It's stable and set it and forget it kind of solid.
the 5700X3D is about 270. It will be the best you can get (right now) for the platform. As long as the BIOS update allows for it.
Just make CERTAIN your BIOS update will support the CPU you want to move to. Measure Twice, cut once.
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Yeah that is normal, you will only boost to 5GHz. 240/170/200 +200 -25 should get you most of the way there.