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Worst Weapon?

Isaacav2 said:
ROFLMA OFF!!! LOL, the word Klobb just braught back a ton of sweet sweet memories from waaay in the good ole days for me :) "I am going to Klobber you!!!" LOL I remember the inside jokes we had. What did the Klobb do? I forget even what it looks like, someone please explain. Mines in GE PWNED!!!

I think the pistol for the T in CS:S is pretty useless.

the glock in cs is very good if you know how to use it, they made it alittle bit better in 1.6 and source than it was in 1.5. In 1.5 it was nearly useless.

but yah the klobb was a little gray machine gun, it sucked total ass, bad accuracy, slow rate of fire. weak sound. Good for laughs.

Obi_Kwiet said:
The standard assault rifle in UTK4. The thing stinks. It's just pathetic.

use the secondary fire grenades, I always get like 3 kills with those right after spawning before finding a real weapon. They rule.
 
TheBluePill said:
The "Star Burst" Missle in Wing Commander 4
You're kidding right? Sure it wasn't as easy to use as teh MACE and Starburst missles of WC2 but it was cool the way you could control it with the joystick and hold down the trigger so that you could tell it when to explode.
 
Obi_Kwiet said:
The standard assault rifle in UTK4. The thing stinks. It's just pathetic.

If you can use it properly with the secondary fire, it's actually a really good weapon.
 
Knife in CS. Still not sure why it is that you can be having a knife battle with somebody and they'll be able to hit you from 5 feet away.

(Apparently, the worst "guns" are the best to kill people with. Getting killed with Klobb was the lamest thing you could do, same with with being knifed)
 
finalgt said:
Knife in CS. Still not sure why it is that you can be having a knife battle with somebody and they'll be able to hit you from 5 feet away.

(Apparently, the worst "guns" are the best to kill people with. Getting killed with Klobb was the lamest thing you could do, same with with being knifed)

getting killed by the 5-7 is worse than being knifed in CS:S, at least the knife is silent and doesn't sound like it shoots airsoft bbs(well it doesn't shoot anything so meh) :p
 
I'm the Dude said:
The MP44 from DOD:S is pretty awful, imo. I imagine the BAR is about the same.

Single shot mode they are decent. Up close you have a lot of recoil to compensate for to get a kill. If they kept the recoil system the same from HL1 DOD those guns would be pretty sweet.

My vote for worst gun? The CT autosniper back in 1.5. Not only did it have terrible recoil regardless of crouching, but it was innacurate( especially wen at the max zoom), took 3 shots to kill, and was really heavy. Talk about a big waste of money, you would only be daft enough to get one if your team was winning...every round.....
 
saturnine2 said:
YES! Most useless gun in any MP game IMO. Takes too long between shots!

Doom3 shotgun! Widest spread I've ever seen from a shotgun...
When shot up close it was pretty good.
 
Ratboy said:
Standard engineer shotgun in BF2.

saturnine2 said:
YES! Most useless gun in any MP game IMO. Takes too long between shots!

You guys are nuts if you are talking about the USMC shotgun, that thing is deadly. If you hit mid-target it's an instant kill. My suggestion would be to use it only at <5 meters and aim better and maybe dodge while pumping it. If you are talking about the MEC/Chinese shotguns then yes, they suck.
 
Jeriko_Cherry said:
You guys are nuts if you are talking about the USMC shotgun, that thing is deadly. If you hit mid-target it's an instant kill. My suggestion would be to use it only at <5 meters and aim better and maybe dodge while pumping it. If you are talking about the MEC/Chinese shotguns then yes, they suck.
You can say that about almost any other gun in the game, except maybe the M24.
 
Top 3 worst

Lightning Gun - UT
Pistol - Doom (All)
Satchels - HL

-Evil Juggalo
 
The AWP in CS, does anyone realize the actual gun like that has to be mounted to a truck yet the little terrorist nerd guy can even jump and take mid-air headshots from across the map with it. Either be real or start giving people shoulder-mounted-no-recoil cannons...

O and anything that appears on or off the screen in Halo/Halo2
 
I don't remember a gun called a klobb in Goldeneye... was it the little black pistol? I thought that was the Koss or Kloss for some reason (damn blurry N64 graphics). Anyway, it wasn't that bad, you could still kill people pretty easy.

The best games were the ones with proxy mines only, suicides on, license to kill, and no time limit (play to ten kills, but everyone gets to like -5 or so withing ten minutes just from all of the accidental proxy suicides).
 
I'm the Dude said:
The MP44 from DOD:S is pretty awful, imo. I imagine the BAR is about the same.

Yeah, my vote would go out to the BAR from original DoD. Every other WW2 game made it deadly, whereas in DoD I usually pulled out the pistol so I could actually hurt someone.

Though the Klobb...ohhh the Klobb... :D
 
Ratboy said:
You can say that about almost any other gun in the game, except maybe the M24.

Not really, there are very few guns in BF2 that will kill someone in one body shot. Even the sniper rifle generally takes two.
 
Holy crap! What? A game that doesn't have true to life mechanics and physics when it comes to using a rifle? Are you trying to tell me that it's not possible to run around at full speed and use a carbine or AK as well??? ;)

Newbify2 said:
The AWP in CS, does anyone realize the actual gun like that has to be mounted to a truck yet the little terrorist nerd guy can even jump and take mid-air headshots from across the map with it. Either be real or start giving people shoulder-mounted-no-recoil cannons...

O and anything that appears on or off the screen in Halo/Halo2
 
UoMDeacon said:
Holy crap! What? A game that doesn't have true to life mechanics and physics when it comes to using a rifle? Are you trying to tell me that it's not possible to run around at full speed and use a carbine or AK as well??? ;)

I knew someone would post this shortly after that :)

pfft atleast the carbine and AK are actually held, not mounted to a truck ;)
I prefer the scout when it comes to sniping AWP users.
 
Yeah, I figured I would take your bait. I hate the awp myself, mostly from the fact that I can't hit crap with it. I have no idea how people move and shoot with it, and I'm too old and stubborn to learn. I sucked with it back in ver. 1.0 and I still do, and damn proud.

Actually saw one of those "Texan Bachelor Party" videos a while back, where it's just a bunch of guys firing highly illegal guns, and I swear one of the guys had one of the anti-tank rifles like the AWP, it had the exact same muzzle. He fired it from a prone position, and the kickback slid him back about 2 feet. Awesome.

Newbify2 said:
I knew someone would post this shortly after that :)

pfft atleast the carbine and AK are actually held, not mounted to a truck ;)
I prefer the scout when it comes to sniping AWP users.
 
NulloModo said:
I don't remember a gun called a klobb in Goldeneye... was it the little black pistol? I thought that was the Koss or Kloss for some reason (damn blurry N64 graphics). Anyway, it wasn't that bad, you could still kill people pretty easy.
maybe you just dreamed you played goldeneye?
 
Moose777 said:
You're kidding right? Sure it wasn't as easy to use as teh MACE and Starburst missles of WC2 but it was cool the way you could control it with the joystick and hold down the trigger so that you could tell it when to explode.

It had a neat "gimmic" factor to it, but it was so under-powered, it was useless in gameplay. Two or three laser blasts were just as effective. It was nowhere near as usefull as the FF or even heat seaking missles.
 
UoMDeacon said:
Yeah, I figured I would take your bait. I hate the awp myself, mostly from the fact that I can't hit crap with it. I have no idea how people move and shoot with it, and I'm too old and stubborn to learn. I sucked with it back in ver. 1.0 and I still do, and damn proud.

Actually saw one of those "Texan Bachelor Party" videos a while back, where it's just a bunch of guys firing highly illegal guns, and I swear one of the guys had one of the anti-tank rifles like the AWP, it had the exact same muzzle. He fired it from a prone position, and the kickback slid him back about 2 feet. Awesome.

Highly Illegal guns?? There are no Illegal guns in the US if you have the money to buy it and pay $200 tax stamp. You can own anything you want up to and including artillery. The onlything off limits are NBC.

The only exceptions would be machine guns made after 1986, for that you need a business liscense and an FFL to get a "dealer sample".
 
Didn't know that. I always thought fully automatic guns were illegal. Or are they legal to own...but illegal to fire?

TheBluePill said:
Highly Illegal guns?? There are no Illegal guns in the US if you have the money to buy it and pay $200 tax stamp. You can own anything you want up to and including artillery. The onlything off limits are NBC.

The only exceptions would be machine guns made after 1986, for that you need a business liscense and an FFL to get a "dealer sample".
 
Newbify2 said:
The AWP in CS, does anyone realize the actual gun like that has to be mounted to a truck yet the little terrorist nerd guy can even jump and take mid-air headshots from across the map with it. Either be real or start giving people shoulder-mounted-no-recoil cannons...

O and anything that appears on or off the screen in Halo/Halo2

Actually, the AWM(yes, that is the real name in CS), is a .338 rifle. My dad has a semi-automatic Browning .338. That thing doesnt need to be mounted to a truck. Granted the thing kicks like an artillery piece, it is quite shootable. You definately dont want to take to many shots with it, and personally I dont plan on shooting it any time soon. But it is fine, my dad used it for hunting a moose when his friend got a permit.

I would definately have to say klobb from goldeneye64 definately gets the worst gun vote from me.. I mean even dual klobbs would take a full clip from each to kill someone.
 
Newbify2 said:
The AWP in CS, does anyone realize the actual gun like that has to be mounted to a truck yet the little terrorist nerd guy can even jump and take mid-air headshots from across the map with it. Either be real or start giving people shoulder-mounted-no-recoil cannons...

O and anything that appears on or off the screen in Halo/Halo2

Not to be a stickler, but the real AWP is about the size of a standard hunting rifle, as I can agree you wouldn't be able to jump around and make accurate shots, it doesn't have to be mounted to a truck. The real gun shoots .338laupa mag, which is a little bigger around than a .30-06 and little longer.
 
Newbify2 said:
The AWP in CS, does anyone realize the actual gun like that has to be mounted to a truck yet the little terrorist nerd guy can even jump and take mid-air headshots from across the map with it. Either be real or start giving people shoulder-mounted-no-recoil cannons...

O and anything that appears on or off the screen in Halo/Halo2

iirc the AWP is just a high-end 30-06. Even a .50-cal rifle is shoulder fired. Got links to support this?

Personally I think firing the AWP at anything more than a walk should hurt the user and completely destroy aim, but people would whine at the realism.

edit: see flatline's post above for better info. My point that the AWP is NOT a vehicle-mounted gun stands. Why vehicle-mount a bolt-action rifle when an M60 or 50-cal would be far more effective? (I've seen soldiers bullseye human-sized targets at 500 meters with vehicle mounted automatics).
 
Here's the real AWP.....

http://www.impactguns.com/store/AI-AWSM338.html

I don't have weights, but do give an idea, I can get the same exact stock for my Remington 700 ADL, and it will reduce the weight of my 700 by 2 lbs. I caqn currently sprint with 700 no prob (no ammo obviously), stop, take my shot, repeat. Only difference between the 2 rifles is the caliber and action.
 
UoMDeacon said:
Didn't know that. I always thought fully automatic guns were illegal. Or are they legal to own...but illegal to fire?

Not illegal to Fire unless your city/town has an ordinance against firing weapons in their city limits, but that would be for any type of firearm.

For all intents and purposes there were almost no restrictions on firearms in the US until 1934, when congress passed the National Firearms Act placing a then huge $200 tax on machine guns and short barrel rifles and shotguns. To enforce this tax, out of work prohibition agents were put back to work. This was one of the main reasons for passing the act, leading to the creation of the ATF in ’72) The effect on crime was debatable as only a small percentage of it was committed with machine guns at the time (mostly by gangs). Interestingly, since 1950 there have been less than 10 crimes committed with a Legally owned machine gun (Although there have been several with Illegally owned machine guns, like the north Hollywood Shootout).

In 1968 a law was passed that made it illegal for a convicted felon, drug user or mentally incompetent person to own or possess a firearm. The benefits of this are pretty obvious although there is a debate on the fairness of taking away the rights of a person that has served their sentence in full. There were also some strict laws that gave the government excessive power arrest anyone that owned a firearm, even legally for the smallest infraction or even suspicion. The 1986 firearm owners protection act repealed some of the abusive parts of the ’68 law and allows for peaceable journey in transporting a firearm for self protection. The compromise made in the ’86 law was that no new machine guns could be sold to private individuals, only to police, military or businesses holding an Federal Firearms License (FFL). The law didn’t make a lot of sense since there has been nearly no crime what-so-ever with legally owned machine guns since the 50’s. This did not cut off the supply of fully automatic weapons as there were plenty on the market, but has driven the price up. A legal, Semi-Automatic AR15 rifle can be purchased for around $700. The fully automatic counterpart, the M16 made before 1986 will cost a person around $5000.00 + a $200.00 Tax Stamp, but is completely legal.

The strangest piece of gun control legislation was the now expired 1994 assault weapons ban. By definition an assault weapon (rifle) is a fully automatic machine gun that fires a medium powered rifle cartridge, typically in a carbine form factor. The Assault weapons ban oddly enough did not have any text involving machine guns, but instead sought to ban the sale of any rifle that had a combination of ergonomic features like a pistol grip, folding stock or a bayonet lug (attachment point). It also banned the sale of new magazines that held over 10 rounds of ammunition. The ergonomic limitations actually had little to no effect on the sale of firearms since the Bayonet lug could be removed and the stock fixed on the small percentage of rifles that had collapsible or folding stocks. (How many people really get bayoneted every year?) The magazine limitation also had a limited effect. There were already hundreds of millions of magazines on the market with capacities over the 10 rounds. Prices of these did go up, as a Glock 15 round magazine would sell for $75 or more while a 10 round would sell for $15. Oddly enough the magazine limitation was passed AFTER an FBI study showed that average number of shots fired during the commission of a firearm related crime was 3. During the 10 years the ban was in effect, no measurable effect on crime was recorded due to the passage of the law. The rate of crime committed with weapons targeted by the ban stayed at 1.7% of total gun related crime throughout the ban. Although the expiration of the ban in 2004 was highly politicized by proponents of the ban as “flooding the streets with machine guns”, there has actually been a 5% drop in the murder rate since the ban expired.

-TBP
 
The artifact in Doom3 R.O.E

Guess I got used to using the Soul Cube too much in Doom3.*shrug*

Oh yeah,I hated the Klobb from Goldeneye.
 
The Hi-Standard Silenced in Medal of honor allied assault, the enemy can't hear it and it has 1 shot kills to the head and torso.
 
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