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oSHEVANELo

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ok im almost finished building my new comp, all i have to do is get a hdd and win xp. I have win xp on the hdd im using right now in my original comp, is there anyway i can just like reformat or something and then pop it into my new comp with all new hardware and run win xp from there, and like do a driver clean and install new drivers? Or can I like put my windows folder or something onto a cd or something and transfer to the other comp? All I know is I have a hdd I can use now, but I really dont want to blow another 100+ on win xp pro... is there any other solution besides buying a fresh copy of win xp or getting it from a friend? just wondering...

thanks
 
Copying Folders = Horrible plan.

I'd say Ghosting the drive should work. But XP is Hardware dependent, since it installs a shit load of drivers, so if your other setup is completely different XP might get wigged out at first. Uninstalling Drivers/Drive cleaner should work after. I'd much rather you spend the money on a copy of XP than do any sort of ghosting of the drive.
 
Some of what your discussing is against forum rules because it isn't legal. If you don't own a method of re-installing XP, it makes me question the legality of your current install. It's always possible to Ghost the old install to the new HDD, but as mentioned, it may not even be bootable, depending on hardware configs. I'd buy an OEM copy of XP for cheap, install it on the new HDD, and then pop in your old drive afterwards to get your data off.
 
oSHEVANELo said:
All I know is I have a hdd I can use now, but I really dont want to blow another 100+ on win xp pro... is there any other solution besides buying a fresh copy of win xp or getting it from a friend? just wondering...

thanks
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Why would you have to spend $? Are you just missing the media or what?
 
yea i tried ghosting the hdd but its not bootable, it just keeps asking for a boot disk, my hardware config is way diff from my previous comp.
 
Do you have the CD key for the copy you are currently using? Just install winXP on the new system and use that CD key. As long as you stop using it on your "old" system, I believe thats legal, isn't it?
 
I do have a 98 SE and key...Ive tried to run the setup but it doesnt do anything...it just says its loading some drivers for realteck and nvidia then asks for a boot disk again. The Hdd has my old files and xp on it right now would i have to erase that 1st?
 
I dunno if the mobo is reading the hdd either. I connected it via ide and power supply. Its a MSI K8N Neo2
 
^^ Well then check the BIOS...

Just go spend the money on an OEM one and be done with it, seeing as Ghosting doesn't work :)
 
This is what I got so far. Im pretty sure I have everything hooked up right.

Verifying DMI pool data....
Nvidia boot agent
realtek gigabit ethernet controller
DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER


now I dont know what to do. If I press enter it just does the same thing all over again...
 
well when I 1st boot up a Platnum menu comes up with 2 options press DEL for BIOS, and TAB to go to post menu

ive setup bios, so I press tab and It takes me to what it normally looks like when you boot, but it says detecting IDE drives for about 5 minutes then loads the nvidia boot agent and stuff up again and does the DISK FAILURE
 
It's not booting from your HDD, that's clearly obvious. You need to figure out why, before you continue. And yes, go by a legal CD and license if you want help, because the mods don't take too kindly to illegal chatter.
 
...Your dancing around this, now you have implied you don't own the software twice...

Why don't you have a key?

Is this a legal install? Do you own the software? Where did you get the install from?

The path I could take you down may result in NO working OSes, and w/o media and a key you'd be screwed.

 
i have a legal copy of 98 se

my setup is:

AMD Athlon 64 3000 s939 retail
MSI K8N Neo2 Nforce3 s939
ATI Radeon 9800xt 256mb
1gb 2x512 Geil ram
Seagate 40gb HDD
sony cd-rw
floppy
enermax 350w psu
2x Mad dog 80mm case fans
 
look, ok forget about xp right now. I went into bios to detect the hdd and it wont detect it, I hooked up the IDE cable and power cable...
 
oSHEVANELo said:
look, ok forget about xp right now. I went into bios to detect the hdd and it wont detect it, I hooked up the IDE cable and power cable...
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:rolleyes:

Check cables/jumpers. Isolate the HDD on it's own chain. Does the BIOS see it now?

 
What are you doing man??? You are just digging yourself into a deeper hole here with this whole thing.

First off, your computer can't see your HD. Probably related to the jumpers. Is it set to primary, secondary, or cable select? Alternate between Primary and Cable select, and see which one works, because I can never remember which one your supposed to use.
 
Ok, so if its connected in there and is supposed to be a slave, did you change the jumpers on the physical HD to make it a slave? Why are you trying to boot from the slave drive?
 
For the sake of argument, set it to the Primary Master, and try to boot from it.
 
Its 5pm :) I'm going home. If this is still a problem tomorrow morning when I get to work, I'll chime in some more to see if I can't help.

To the OP: Its most likely a jumper issue thats causing the BIOS to not detect your HD.
 
ok got the hdd isolated, had the jumpers hooked up wrong, im getting closer now, thanx for putting up with me for now...
 
now it asks me if i wanna go into safemode, normal, and stuff. It flashes the win xp symbol for a second then starts over and does the same thing, I guess this is where buying a copy of xp comes in...?
 
Wow this just escalated in like 5 minutes.

Like everyone said, you are being very silly...
1) Your BIOS isn't seeing your HD.
2) You shouldn't be setting your HD as Slave anyways. What the hell are you slaving it to? (Bet you have both devices as Slave Jumpers :rolleyes: )
3) Unhook all useless things/CD-ROM/Etc etc. And just have the HD
4) Set HD to MASTER, and make sure its plugged in right.
5) Check BIOS again. Should show up as Primary Boot Device: HD Yadda Yadda
6) If not found, try changing jumper to CABLE SELECT.
7) Repeat 5.
8) If fails, then something is ultra-fubared with the drive. See 8a)
8a) If the drive is fubared then:
8b) Return the drive
8c) Get another drive, and have that one boot, and then format the broken drive.
8d) If a normal format doesn't work, do a Low Level format on the drive using the diskette that came with the HD.
8dd) Reset the broken HD,and set as Master, set BIOS to boot from Disk.
9) If it works on MASTER or CABLE select then hurray. Go buy yourself an 80 dollar OEM copy of XP, or use your Windows CD and be happy.


Honestly I zoned out, (At work) so I am sure I missed "steps" :D
 
ok so now the comp is trying to load stuff from the previous hdd from my old comp but it has all the wrong drivers and stuff so it just gets confused then starts over and does the same thing. Im gonna have to reformat my hdd and get xp then. Is there anyway i can reformat my hdd without having to stick it in my old comp and doing it manualy?
 
oSHEVANELo said:
now it asks me if i wanna go into safemode, normal, and stuff. It flashes the win xp symbol for a second then starts over and does the same thing, I guess this is where buying a copy of xp comes in...?
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Ok wow, is this your first time building a computer? Woowee. :p

Boot into SAFEMODE first to see if XP will even boot and run with totally different hardware. If it does, try NORMAL after, and if that works then I guess you win.

If not, then guess what, time to spend some money on an OS.
Besides dude, XP isn't THAT expensive. I don't know why you are so timid to go and buy it..jeez.

ok so now the comp is trying to load stuff from the previous hdd from my old comp but it has all the wrong drivers and stuff so it just gets confused then starts over and does the same thing. Im gonna have to reformat my hdd and get xp then. Is there anyway i can reformat my hdd without having to stick it in my old comp and doing it manualy?
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Omg, stop it. Well, unless you have the CD you can't format it without having another HD with the OS do it for you.

F*ING GO BUY XP! You cheap fool :D :p Wow...just buying it would solve all your problems and would have saved you all of this time.
 
abudhu said:
Wow this just escalated in like 5 minutes.

Like everyone said, you are being very silly...
1) Your BIOS isn't seeing your HD.
2) You shouldn't be setting your HD as Slave anyways. What the hell are you slaving it to? (Bet you have both devices as Slave Jumpers :rolleyes: )
3) Unhook all useless things/CD-ROM/Etc etc. And just have the HD
4) Set HD to MASTER, and make sure its plugged in right.
5) Check BIOS again. Should show up as Primary Boot Device: HD Yadda Yadda
6) If not found, try changing jumper to CABLE SELECT.
7) Repeat 5.
8) If fails, then something is ultra-fubared with the drive. See 8a)
8a) If the drive is fubared then:
8b) Return the drive
8c) Get another drive, and have that one boot, and then format the broken drive.
8d) If a normal format doesn't work, do a Low Level format on the drive using the diskette that came with the HD.
8dd) Reset the broken HD,and set as Master, set BIOS to boot from Disk.
9) If it works on MASTER or CABLE select then hurray. Go buy yourself an 80 dollar OEM copy of XP, or use your Windows CD and be happy.


Honestly I zoned out, (At work) so I am sure I missed "steps" :D
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the hdd is in primary master, and has been detected, but it has previous drivers and such from my old comp...so it wont run xp so I need to reformat and get xp
 
abudhu said:
Ok wow, is this your first time building a computer? Woowee. :p

Boot into SAFEMODE first to see if XP will even boot and run with totally different hardware. If it does, try NORMAL after, and if that works then I guess you win.

If not, then guess what, time to spend some money on an OS.
Besides dude, XP isn't THAT expensive. I don't know why you are so timid to go and buy it..jeez.



Omg, stop it. Well, unless you have the CD you can't format it without having another HD with the OS do it for you.

F*ING GO BUY XP! You cheap fool :D :p Wow...just buying it would solve all your problems and would have saved you all of this time.
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yea I tried safe mode and all the other modes, dont work just automatically restarts, and im a 17 yr old with no job, so its no that easy for me to go just buy xp, ha but yea i guess ill have to or have my friend get it for me.
 
oSHEVANELo said:
yea I tried safe mode and all the other modes, dont work just automatically restarts, and im a 17 yr old with no job, so its no that easy for me to go just buy xp, ha but yea i guess ill have to or have my friend get it for me.
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Lol, then its time to get a job my boy.
 
oSHEVANELo said:
now it asks me if i wanna go into safemode, normal, and stuff. It flashes the win xp symbol for a second then starts over and does the same thing, I guess this is where buying a copy of xp comes in...?
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Bingo...

 
ive stuck my hdd in my previous comp, how do I clean out my hdd now? I wanna use it in my new comp nice and clean with no OS so when i buy xp all i have to do is pop it in and setup.
 
oSHEVANELo said:
ive stuck my hdd in my previous comp, how do I clean out my hdd now? I wanna use it in my new comp nice and clean with no OS so when i buy xp all i have to do is pop it in and setup.
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Start -- Settings -- Admin Options (Its called Admin something...) -- Comp Managment -- Disk Managment -- You'll see it there, click it, right click it, Format.
 
abudhu said:
Start -- Settings -- Admin Options (Its called Admin something...) -- Comp Managment -- Disk Managment -- You'll see it there, click it, right click it, Format.
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it wont let me click format, its shaded grey
 
oSHEVANELo said:
it wont let me click format, its shaded grey
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You make me cry...

Whats shaded grey? Please post a pic so that we can further help. Maybe someone else understands but right now I don't.

When I formatted my External HD, it was just grey, with a long skinny black bar, after highlighting it I could format it..

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Hm, for right now, I'd say set it as Slave, and slave it to the original HD. It might be something with it set as Master actually...

Alternativley, since your have an 98 cd, you could boot that one, and have it format it, and then when you get XP, just do another format...
 
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^^ Btw. I think we should all take 10 minutes to laugh at him.

You have 1 drive champ. That drive says C:\ That drive has your OS on it. NO SHIT it won't let your format the drive.

You did not hook up your other hard drive as was said. Slave the Drive, or keep it as master and plug it in....
 
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