Windows Server 2003 - Gaming Experience!

[HHunt]

So, aside from the pissing contest I still don't see *why* I should do this, just that I can.

I can ride a bike too, but it's not going to give me any more FPS out of a game, or make my system more stable, secure, easier to use, etc.


How do you quantify this statement?

Why? Because I can. Because I don't have to dualboot XP. Because using overengineered, expensive OSes for things they weren't meant to is fun. Because I want to. Isn't that enough?

As for quantifying that, I think that was what he did when he said "And the way I used my words in the first thread, is a marketing/promoting method, I'll now oficially say I am sorry for that, but I am used in using it all the time. I am sorry ...
Maybe it was better not apologize, but I did. Maybe now you'll feel better."

 

[Phoenix86]

Hey, I have no problem with doing things because you want to. I run sans PF when I can, but I don't preach it to others. I can't quantify the gains, but I'll be glad to show them how...

I'm just trying to see if there are gains, or if this is purely "something you can do."

 

[KevinO]

Well as you can see though Phoenix, amid all the off topic posts in the thread, this info has benefited some people. I think it is more of an I can do thing than a benefit.

I know his wording in his first post is what gave this a bad start as to preaching that is what we should do instead of XP and like djnes said in another thread a while back we need "mood" tags so people don't interpret things in the wrong way. I know I am bad about that .

 

[djnes]

I know his wording in his first post is what gave this a bad start as to preaching that is what we should do instead of XP and like djnes said in another thread a while back we need "mood" tags so people don't interpret things in the wrong way. I know I am bad about that .

And don't you forget that I have the patent on them!!!!

Those of us with a real interest in computing don't do things just because we can....we do things because there's a reason. I'm all for someone loading 2003 Server on a second machine and playing around with it. But no one should argue that it's a replacement for XP, and no one should try to persuade others from using XP, as is the case here. It's a fact that Server 2003 is not intended for desktop use. If anyone wants to do so, wonderful, but don't start threads about it, or argue with people who factually point out it's useless.

*this was not directed at Kevin0...but to the people who still want to defy fact and argue that it's just as good or better as XP on a desktop.

 

[lesman]

what position does he hold which he can verify in which I should trust him with his vb scripts or his advice at all?

2003 Server is .... It says server for a reason, cause it's meant for server.

2003 Server is just an extension of the "Whistler" project of which XP was. there is no difference between the two except 2003 Server is meant for server, and not for gaming or desktop use.

Well, this is HIS thread that HE started, so let him continue his thoughts. It's simple, if you don't wana listen, then you don't have to. So don't if you don't want to. It's for people out there who may have that particular OS, and he's just trying to help them.

 

[lomn75]

Well, this is HIS thread that HE started, so let him continue his thoughts. It's simple, if you don't wana listen, then you don't have to. So don't if you don't want to. It's for people out there who may have that particular OS, and he's just trying to help them.

However, this forum is short on marketing and long on fact. That's something that needs to be understood.

If the OP can show actual gains, then a whole lot more people will sit up and take interest (and probably eat some crow), myself included.

 

[djnes]

Why? Because I can.

You can stick your wang in a garbage disposal too, but I don't see you running off to do that. There's a lot of things we "can" do, but that's not a reason for justification.

 

[Phoenix86]

But no one should argue that it's a replacement for XP, and no one should try to persuade others from using XP, as is the case here.

Which when you get down to it, is the point of the thread, no? Otherwise, kinda a pointless writeup.

I mean you can run progman.exe as your shell, but I don't see guides for that (much) because there really isn't a point.

Has anyone actually benchmarked the two, or is this all pie in the sky talk?

 

[Phoenix86]

However, this forum is short on marketing and long on fact. That's something that needs to be understood.

If the OP can show actual gains, then a whole lot more people will sit up and take interest (and probably eat some crow), myself included.

Heh, it's a fine line in being flat wrong, and doubtfull.

 

[KevinO]

And don't you forget that I have the patent on them!!!!

*this was not directed at Kevin0...but to the people who still want to defy fact and argue that it's just as good or better as XP on a desktop.

djnes - millionare from bulletin board mood tags. Nice ring!!!

 

[oldpablo]

I sit in the camp of "dumb idea" however I also realize that some do want to know this info. I'm confident that those people that try this amazing feat will eventually end up back with XP after realizing its pointless. However I think as stated above, the initial delivery was really the issue here. How many times do some of the older forum guys help people that have jacked up their systems doing dumb things? There's kind of a fatherly flow to these forums and seeing someone post not only information thats incorrect in the way its stated, but also info that can potentially waste somebodys time that will come back here asking for help, gets some of us up in a dander. So in a nutshell, hopefully we've all reminded ourselves that delivery is one of the most important aspects of communication. If this had been delivered with the title "How to game in Win2k3 if you have to have it installed and can't use XP" then that adresses a legitimate crowd I think this probably wouldn't have derailed as much. HHunt fits that crowd as a person that wants to game and learn 2003, but not have to dual-boot. So let the real info flow now I guess.

And HHunt, I don't know if you have +- $150 to blow, but VMWare is the best thing since sliced bread to learn different operating systems. No additional hardware needed (maybe a bit more RAM) and you can roll back and forth with snapshots when you break it to save reinstallation time. The demo is fully functional for 30 days as well.

 

[Brando457]

how about stop flaming hte guy and let him express himself. ever hear of somethign called free speech well he has a right to express his thoughts and I for one am intrigued by it. You all keep flaming him calling him a moron etc. for sayting you can game on Win2k3, well you're the morons for wasting your time and posting on here to argue with him. Opinions are like assholes everyone has one and most of the time it is best to keep your opinion to yourself!

 

[djnes]

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one and imost of hte time it is best to keep your opinion to yourself!

That is the WORST butchering of a saying I have ever heard!

There's free speech, like you said...so I can say this! You said so!

 

[lomn75]

ever hear of somethign called free speech well he has a right to express his thoughts

Incidentally, the First Amendment does not extend to internet forums. It's a protection from government-restricted speech. Just an FYI.

That said, yes, he can post what he wants. You can follow the advice you choose, even from someone who had to reinstall an OS after developing instabilities from non-standard drivers. Your call.

 

[Phoenix86]

how about stop flaming hte guy and let him express himself. ever hear of somethign called free speech well he has a right to express his thoughts and I for one am intrigued by it. You all keep flaming him calling him a moron etc. for sayting you can game on Win2k3, well you're the morons for wasting your time and posting on here to argue with him. Opinions are like assholes everyone has one and most of the time it is best to keep your opinion to yourself!

This is not a democracy, it's a dictatorship...

 

[lesman]

WindowsOS's (for the most part) are all very stable. It's like when Mac people say "Winblows sucks, Mac OS is so stable, you don't even have to worry about virus protection" It's just that the architechture and coding is widely, hugely known worldwide, unlike the Macs. Anyways, Points I agree with lie within the various many statements made by people for and against this 2k3 gaming thing. What a few people have said about it's just him being a noobie, is, in fact, TRUE. One remark, I don't remember exactly whos, proves my theory correct. Certain folks in this forum treat others like they don't know a damn thing just because they're new to this forum. Just because you're a "n00bie", a "hard forum junkie", a "hard gawd", or "2h4u" or whatever doesn't mean a damn thing. Just clearing that up for anyone, anyone at all who thinks they know/can do more than anyone else in this forum. You guys may have proved some of this this mans theories wrong, and he has definitely proved you guys wrong a few times. Let him speak, let him continue, because I bet you anything, that this thread right here will teach a few people something they didn't know, and they are gonna be happy about it. You have all proven your points against him, so let him finish now. PLEASE. This is getting stupid.

 

[HHunt]

You can stick your wang in a garbage disposal too, but I don't see you running off to do that. There's a lot of things we "can" do, but that's not a reason for justification.

Ok, "I want to try and my self-preservation instincts don't say anything", then. Geez, some people are just a bit too dull for their own good.

And lomn75: Thank you.
(A slight lack of native drivers is a risk I already knew about and have chosen to live with. Don't make the mistake of thinking we're just uninformed for wanting to do this.)

OldPueblo: Yeah, VMWare is really nice. I might, perhaps, be able to convince myself to purchase a copy. It's just that I've already tried using 2003 as a desktop and didn't have any real problems, so I don't see any reason not to try again.

VMWare + FreeBSD (or linux, I guess) makes a suprisingly good X-server for windows, as well. It's almost scary how fast that program is.

 

[Tordek]

WindowsOS's (for the most part) are all very stable. It's like when Mac people say "Winblows sucks, Mac OS is so stable, you don't even have to worry about virus protection" It's just that the architechture and coding is widely, hugely known worldwide, unlike the Macs. Anyways, Points I agree with lie within the various many statements made by people for and against this 2k3 gaming thing. What a few people have said about it's just him being a noobie, is, in fact, TRUE. One remark, I don't remember exactly whos, proves my theory correct. Certain folks in this forum treat others like they don't know a damn thing just because they're new to this forum. Just because you're a "n00bie", a "hard forum junkie", a "hard gawd", or "2h4u" or whatever doesn't mean a damn thing. Just clearing that up for anyone, anyone at all who thinks they know/can do more than anyone else in this forum. You guys may have proved some of this this mans theories wrong, and he has definitely proved you guys wrong a few times. Let him speak, let him continue, because I bet you anything, that this thread right here will teach a few people something they didn't know, and they are gonna be happy about it. You have all proven your points against him, so let him finish now. PLEASE. This is getting stupid.

do you realize how many times people have said this..? Hell, ive been here since 2003 and ive read half a dozen times.

in the long run you'll realize that most "noobies" do live up to their status and post whatever garbage they come up with.

And although the title by itself doesnt mean a thing, people tend to grow a brain the more they frequent the forums (myself included...)

How did he proved any of us wrong BTW?

 

[djnes]

How did he proved any of us wrong BTW?

He didn't....we've been having too much fun at his expense.

 

[oldpablo]

I forget, are we trying to show how to use it or why it doesn't work? I tried to use it once as a normal OS and surprise surprise, out of nowhere I hit a big roadblock. No WPA support in 2003, and I wasn't about to lower my wireless security for it. Was nowhere near my router either to run a cable. Just one example of "It should work great with all my hardware...DAMN!" Now back to your regularly scheduled forum beating...

 

[GeForceX]

Many of you are *too* aggressive. What I would rather see is him finishing his "tutorial" and just read it from beginning to end and go, "Oh." I hate arguments that have been repeated and repeated. Just let it go if not one person gets it. Why question all the time? I can already dislike some of you people here for being all righteous and obnoxious after he posted his tutorial and driving up the arguments. Someone posted a link saying it was discussed earlier already-- JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. He'll read it and say, "Oh, I did not know." Simplicity, simplicity, simplicity.

You wonder why so many other living things hate human beings.

Then again, this is a forum, where every post is made to be argued against. So yeah, I expect flames. But do keep them in your mouth. Just please let him continue on with his final tutorial section (...or not). :/

-J.

P.S. It's all good.

 

[Fark_Maniac]

so you want to use something ment for servers for gaming?

Thats like taking a tractor and then using it as a day-to-day run-around

erm...before I turned 16, I took tractors into town....faster than walking. You don't need a license to drive 'em on the roads, just a slow-moving vehicle hazard sign..

 

[lesman]

I don't care what any of you have said, I don't need to explain how he has proved any of you wrong, you already know, I already know you know this, but, NO ONES STATUS MEANS A THING. Just because it's a forum doesn't mean anyones real world knowledge of technology is any different, leave the guy alone, let him finish. This thread should be stopped by the mods, because some of you people have ruined this shit. But I say let the man finish, or the man should start a new thread. A no postback thread that's strictly a tutorial for the people who might own 2k3 and want to play games on it.

 

[{NG}Fidel]

I dont understand why one man cant simply make a statement about how to Change 2k3 into a gamable OS. Some people have that OS and dont want to BUY Anything! You see the gain their! They dont lose 100 Dollars on a upgrade or even more on the Full version! Is that Hard to Understand!

He didn't....we've been having too much fun at his expense

This is the biggest outright flame I have ever seen.
djnes you have been after this guy since your first post. Show me what "Offended" you so much. I doubt you lost any sleep over it so dont make this guy lose his.
Also sevral people in this topic have requsted this info so let them get it.

 

[djnes]

Okay, let's clear up a few things. Those of us who have had problems with this topic, here's the reasons:

1) It's old, information, reposted many times.
2) Each time it's posted, the OP realizes it's a ridiculous concept.
3) What started the problems here, was the attitude of the OP.
4) Trumping up information that's nothing more than a repost, is not a good way to earn a rep.
5) Arguing with people over facts is ludicrous, at best.
6) Consider the ratio of people using XP to Server 2003 as their main OS. Thank you.
7) The OP talked down to everyone else, assuming none of us were cool enough to use Server 2003.


Now, if anyone is actual trying to make Server 2003 into XP (which we are still laughing about the whole concept), all you had to do was Google for the tool that does it, or simply *gasps* search here for other threads of the same magnitude.

In short, for those still not following, when you get someone rated a noobie (yes I know, we don't judge people on ratings alone) who starts a thread, posting a mostly useless concept that defies good computing practices and common sense, then argues with people of different opinions, what the hell did you expect to happen? Look through his arguments....all the false statements. Find where Iomn75 linked his other thread saying he had trouble with drivers....right were the OP states Server 2003 is more stable than XP.

 

[lomn75]

Now, if anyone is actual trying to make Server 2003 into XP (which we are still laughing about the whole concept), all you had to do was Google for the tool that does it, or simply *gasps* search here for other threads of the same magnitude.

To ease the task, here's a tutorial linked in the previous 2K3 vs XP thread. As an added bonus, it's apparently not written by someone who had to reinstall 2K3 within the last week due to his own advice.

disclaimer: I'm not making a personal attack on the OP here, honestly. I've done dumb crap, too. We all have. I, for instance, tried elevating F@H to real-time priority once. Note: don't do this! However, if you want to make 2K3 a workstation / game rig, pick the advice from someone who doesn't reinstall over a graphics driver. That's just good sense.

 

[Mauli]

Don't get me wrong i really like hard. Btw, i am not a noob so please dont trash me down as if i was one. This is my personal opinion, and im not intending to name anyone...

anyways, i dont see why this thread as turned out to be an arguement about whether or not use Win2k3 for gaming. In fact, all those gawds in here, that think that they are so smart, you guys went against a forum rule, u basically hijacked this thread, turning it from a tutorial into a debate... but thats not even what makes me mad.

In fact, i dont understand that this forum does not seem to have any tolerance whatsoever for people that want to try something unusual, something that may not appear to be the easiest or most cost effective thing to do. As soon as something like this is posted, and some people, me included are very greatful for those kind of posts, becuase its exactly what i am trying to do, it ends up being a huge arguement about whether or not it makes sense to do so. Nobody asked you do to it, and if u dont want to, then dont do it. Its your choice to do so.

Furthermore, if u dont like this thread, and if you cannot contribiute something useful to it, then i dont see why you are posing in here, although you are free to do so. But dont we want a postive supportive atmosphere? That is not what is going on in this thread.

I have asked questions before about how to do something a certain way. I find it great if people tell me, people that are probably more experienced that i am, that there is a better way to do it. However, if i say thanks, but i would like to do it this way, why does it have to go into an arguement. If you know how to do it, then please tell me, then please dont argue about it.
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Hope nobody took this the wrong way, but i feel this is constructive critizm and i think that a lot of people are doing it this way, the postive way. But some people, just have to get a little bit more tolerant.

I find it great that somebody posted this, and also, from reading what the threadstarter wrote, i dont think his title represents his knowledge.

anyways, have a good day, and i hope that this thread changes direction..

-mauli

 

[djnes]

Don't get me wrong i really like hard.

That sounds so wrong in so many ways.

Let me get this straight though. You come in, making this thread, railing on about how no one is staying on topic and how all of us are breaking rules, etc. And then you go on to say it's just constructive criticism?

You need to take some more time and read through from the very beginning. As I said, note his attitude. Secondly, note the fact he's telling us 2003 is better than XP because it's more stable. At the same time he created another thread stating he's re-installing 2003 due to the fact his Nvidia drivers didn't work right. Hypocrasy at it's finest. I wno't even point out the fact that Nvidia's drivers have worked without issue on 2003 Server from it's release.

You need to understand that if someone comes in, regardless of title, creates a post telling people to do something, it helps if that person isn't contradicting themselves in other threads. It's hard to give advice when you don't follow it yourself, or you get an attitude with people pointing out some flaws.

And, as the rest of us are pointing out, just because something is possible, doesn't mean it's rational to do.

 

[djnes]

Also, we've made suggestions, and asked legitimate questions, but the OP has failed to respond. This thread could have been put back on track if he had done that, but he chose not to.

 

[Mauli]

now i am going against what i said in my other post but oh well...

He never told you you have to turn your win2k3 into a gaming platform... All he did, and he said so in defence later on, this is a guide, a tutorial.

My personal opinion is, and i dont have any fact to back that up, but my win2k3 is more stable than win xp... but as so many things it depends on a million of things. anyways, what i was trying to say was, let me man talk, and if u do not like what he is saying, and im not only directing this towards you, then dont get all mad at him...

we want to keep a postive atmosphere, and neither u nor i are right now contribiuting to this goal.

edit: to the post before me, he was attacked first thing... i dunno, that doesnt encourage anyone to continue debating or does it?

 

[Phoenix86]

Don't get me wrong i really like hard. Btw, i am not a noob so please dont trash me down as if i was one. This is my personal opinion, and im not intending to name anyone...

anyways, i dont see why this thread as turned out to be an arguement about whether or not use Win2k3 for gaming. In fact, all those gawds in here, that think that they are so smart, you guys went against a forum rule, u basically hijacked this thread, turning it from a tutorial into a debate... but thats not even what makes me mad.

-mauli

Pfft, check out my tutorial thread where KoolDrew did the same, and that's a STICKY. I don't see anyone up in arms there... Heaven forbid someone has to qualify their statements, which is basically what was done to the OP here. Someone call the waaambulance.

Did I cry foul? No, I have take the discussion to PMs with him. Learn to deal with it...

Post count is ridiculous, this person got the grilling because they were wrong in several statements. That doesn't mean the whole concept is useless.

In fact, i dont understand that this forum does not seem to have any tolerance whatsoever for people that want to try something unusual, something that may not appear to be the easiest or most cost effective thing to do. As soon as something like this is posted, and some people, me included are very greatful for those kind of posts, becuase its exactly what i am trying to do, it ends up being a huge arguement about whether or not it makes sense to do so. Nobody asked you do to it, and if u dont want to, then dont do it. Its your choice to do so.

I think that's a misconception. There is a difference between trying something new, and trying something others have already done.

You like the experience that others have, where do you think they got it? By trying things differently, seeing if it works, and moving on. This concept of turning S2K3 into a desktop OS isn't new. I saw articles months ago on it...

So should we throw out our experience and coddle a bad idea? Just because a thread gets X posts long or there are lots of questions doesn't mean we are beating it into the ground. It's how people figure out a good idea, by questioning it.

But some people, just have to get a little bit more tolerant.

Perhaps that is needed, but I doubt it's going to happen. Read the link in my sig and you will understand what's happening here. Your left with two things. Either the people asking quesitons (or posting threads) need to alter their approach, or the whole community has to have an epiphany. What's more likely?

 

[djnes]

There's no real way to test stability, but I can tell you for gaming hardware, XP is going to be more stable, because the drivers are designed for XP, not Server 2003. t's also a more mature platform, that all gaming hardware and software companies develop and test for. I maintain several 2003 servers, and all are extremely stable, but I would dream of doing something as ridiclous as installing it on my main machine. Especially when it's easier to get a legal copy of XP then Server 2003.

 

[Aryiam]

Greetings again.
Djnes, we really should clarify some things, because I think we're circling the same spot, in vain. Yes, this thread could have been put back on track. I didn't want this? I assure you I had no intention in such a thing. More, I guess you passed over the thread where I actually apologized for the way I was speaking in the first thread, though I also explained it was in a way I am learnt with. Every day I take care of marketing/promoting, you have to understand this, it's just a way I am. Again, I am sorry ...

Due to this fact, I will edit the first post in a while, when I'll have some more spare time, as well I will post the links where to download the autoexec.nt file, and the .vbs one. This way, I want to thank to Brando who offered his help in hosting some files.

Again, you keep talking about my attitude. To be frankly, I saw your attitude very aggresive and against me, I saw you behaving like someone who is all knowing. I am sorry, but that is the true.
You see, everyone has his own opinion. Like I have mine, you have yours. It's a simple fact that we must understand. And most of the time, opinions may differ, because again, you can't say that we're all the same. Every one is unique, in his way. This, and the fact that we're still "talking" over the internet, shows that every word we say, might be interpreted by anyone, in every way they want. I can say something, and you can take it as an insult, as a congrats, or anything you want. We're not speaking "face to face", remember this.
Yes, so I understood this. But when I said it in recent replies that may corrected this, but you still continued your way ...
Things like:

Also, you're fighting for something which I still think is useless. You are against turning Win2k3 into XP, and that is better to buy XP instead from the beginning. I don't know when I did not agree with that. I've just said something for the ones who are "doomed/blessed (you can choose the word you want)" with Windows 2003, but they also want to play on it.
I am well aware that Windows Server 2003 >> for serving ... and that WinXP is for games/multimedia. Even myself have on the bedroom computer WinXP.
Like I said, it's just like we're not on the same lane ...

it's for people who already have Windows 2003 for some reasons ...

And for such people that already have this operating system, maybe this can be helpful. If it is or not, it's not your call to decide, just because you're here from 2000.

Some of you are still keeping it their way, that I said "screw WinXP" "go buy Win2003" etc. I already said that is a false statement, though I am still wondering why are you continuing. Also, I already said that even myself, I am using WinXP on the bedroom computer, which I mainly use for games/multimedia applications.
I mean, it's like you just can't understand. Anyway, I will edit the main post, and maybe then everything will be ok.

And about that thing, when you replied to Mauli with "That sounds so wrong in so many ways.". This is a very clear argument in showing that you are saying your personal opinion, the way you think. Take it as a tip, but this kind of opinions are better to remain for yourself. And don't start shouting again, I am in the psychology area, it was just a tip, just that.

Why I reinstalled Windows then? It sure wasn't only because I had some minor problems with the nVidia drivers, but I don't need to give you the details. I'll just say that we live to learn, right? Not to mention, that this would be also a reason why I have come to this boards, to learn ...

As for this tutorial >> http://www.msfn.org/win2k3/ indeed it is relative complete, but I don't think they shown there how to remove that error that prevents some programs to be installed on Win2k3, or how to make it run old 16bits or dos applications. Not to mention I don't agree with some facts there, like disabling some things, that like you said it's turning it more and more in XP. Though, indeed ... an XP that can be used for work (because mainly the people who have Win2k3 have it for some reasons, not just to "play" with it), but that can also be used for games/multimedia.

This was talked over and over again? Pardon me, but I was not here then. I posted here with only one purpose, to help. Sorry if I was wrong in doing that. Though, some things I said I didn't find in here, in other old posts (and I kinda searched through history).

In the end, let's shake hands and maybe we don't have to put behind the arguing that occured here. Because, in some ways, it sure was helpful. But as someone once said, "fights only put another strong layers on friendships".
I do not consider you friends, though, at least not yet. I'd be honored to feel that way though, despite the actions that took place in here.
Until then, Farewell, and trust me, I am not that "not knowing" person you believe, you'd be surprised of what I actually do
Even so, I don't know many things, but again, that is why I have come here.
Cheers!

* EDIT *

And yes, operating systems is not my domain, but I just wanted to share what I already knew. That's all.
Thanks,
Antonio.

 

[Phoenix86]

There's no real way to test stability, but I can tell you for gaming hardware, XP is going to be more stable, because the drivers are designed for XP, not Server 2003. t's also a more mature platform, that all gaming hardware and software companies develop and test for. I maintain several 2003 servers, and all are extremely stable, but I would dream of doing something as ridiclous as installing it on my main machine. Especially when it's easier to get a legal copy of XP then Server 2003.

That's the main issue. Even if the kernel is better (which it like is), the drivers will not be as good for S2K3. Nor will they *ever* debug a game/video driver for S2K3, which may or may not exist under XP. Just look at 2K/XP. Very much the same drivers, heck exactlly the same in many cases, and yet there are drivers issue that 2K has that XP doesn't and vice versa.

The ability to get legal copies is a moot point, both can be bought, or otherwise legally obtained. MS is giving out S2K3 (5CALs) at their server classes. I can actually get S2K3 easier and cheaper than XP, but again, that's moot.

 

[djnes]

I'd be happy to move along to other things. I'm asking one final favor. Don't do this for me, and I don't need to know about it. Do it for yourself. In your own time, read over the entire thread again. Take your time and think about things you've said, and how they might be taken by someone else reading your comments. Maybe none of this was done intentionally, but you have to realize much of what you said was laced with attitude and know-it-all behavior. Maybe in your mind you were being innocent and calm, but the text you typed was anything but.

Also realize you contradicted yourself in other threads about the stability. Instead of arguing with some of us here who point out such things, turn it into a discussion. Without the attitude, we would have gladly participated in such things. Search by our usernames and you'll see this. Remember, we can't read minds to get your emotions or moods...we have to go by the text as written.

Lastly, in further poof you want nothing more than to stoke the flames, your putting me down for a quote I made "This sounds so wring in so many ways" Did you bother to read why I typed that? Could it be the first line of Mauli's post sounded funny and I was making a joke about him liking Hard? JESUS CHRIST relax a little bit. That was clearly a comment on something he said. All you care to do is keep the fighting going on with such comments, and then you try to act like an innocent peace keeper. Pick a side and stay on it.

 

[Aryiam]

Very well, djnes, I'd be more than happy to move along to other things as well.
I am glad that this is over. Thank you.
... * Now, let's go to the games part, at least that is my domain hehe

 

[Tordek]

Lastly, in further poof you want nothing more than to stoke the flames, your putting me down for a quote I made "This sounds so wring in so many ways" Did you bother to read why I typed that? Could it be the first line of Mauli's post sounded funny and I was making a joke about him liking Hard? JESUS CHRIST relax a little bit. That was clearly a comment on something he said. All you care to do is keep the fighting going on with such comments, and then you try to act like an innocent peace keeper. Pick a side and stay on it.

my thoughts exactly...

you cant just go about flaming and asking for peace in the same thread.

pick a side and stay on it

 

[djnes]

Very well, djnes, I'd be more than happy to move along to other things as well.
I am glad that this is over. Thank you.
... * Now, let's go to the games part, at least that is my domain hehe

I meant that quote in one of my previous threads as a joke....just relax man...we're not here to execute anyone.

 

[Mauli]

I meant that quote in one of my previous threads as a joke....just relax man...we're not here to execute anyone.

I do give him right here, when he quoted me, i laughed about it myself... but thanks for trying to help me out... glad we sorted all of this out

 

[djnes]

I do give him right here, when he quoted me, i laughed about it myself... but thanks for trying to help me out... glad we sorted all of this out

When you said "Don't get me wrong i really like hard. ", I was hoping it was a fill-in-the-blank game. We could have had fun with that one for days.