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Windows Security Praised

CommanderFrank

CommanderFrank

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Internet security leader Kapersky reported that for the very first time, Microsoft does not have a place among the top ten vulnerabilities. The Kaspersky report cited better update mechanisms and higher use of Windows 7. I noticed Kaspersky had nothing to say about Microsoft Security Essentials aiding to the safety factor. :D

So if you're running Windows --- especially Windows 7 --- you don't need to worry that you're a sitting duck.
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I never had a problem with any of the older oses being less secure. I blame the users. :p
 
problem lies between the chair and keyboard, id10t error, etc etc
 
munkle said:
I never had a problem with any of the older oses being less secure. I blame the users. :p
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I dont know about that. An un-updated (SP's) WinXP is about as open as an os can get. Something like 90% of all bots reside in XP puters!!!
 
Good for Microsoft. In a desperate attempt to be an OS and force you into the cloud, Chrome is now allowing native C/C++ code to run. I think we all know how that is going to affect security and your right to control your own computer. Google is trying to turn the PC into a goddamn locked down cell phone.
 
I'm not surprised at all. I've been telling people ever since Windows 7 that Windows is not nearly as unsafe as it used to be.
 
I'm not surprised actually, MS in the last decade has been the top target of well, almost everyone/everything, others may say it took long,But I'd still give praise to MS actually, that is what you call "battled-hardened" ;)
 
Pieter3dnow said:
what a classic and the line with teh link is even better at the bottom :

which leads to http://www.pcworld.com/article/237652/microsoft_security_patch_fixes_20yearold_flaw.html?tk=rel_news

awesome :)
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OMG microsoft released patches, that is horrible, oh wait, that is why security isn't as bad as it was.

If you are refering to the title it is a lie just to get attention. firefox has flaws that they haven't patched since version 1 though. In that case of that article, it was talking about a problem with the ping of death in old 9X versions of windows. That problem was fixed, but now with vista/server 2008 and up there was a very similar flaw that they found and fix. It wasn't the same flaw that has been sitting there for 20 years, it is a similar flaw that they fixed 20 years ago. Even then you should have stuff in place to product against DOS attacks as much as possible anyway.
 
munkle said:
I never had a problem with any of the older oses being less secure. I blame the users. :p
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Don't completely blame the users.
I've had a couple XP systems get infected when the user went to a potential customer's web site to check the customer’s business out, and the customers web site had been compromised.
 
The random Win 7 AntiVirus 2012 infections I keep getting beg to differ... Always with Google image search. Malwarebytes activeshield is the only thing that protects against this garbage.
 
Exavior said:
In that case of that article, it was talking about a problem with the ping of death in old 9X versions of windows.
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Loved the ping of death.

It was a great way to stop someone from sharing their lousy taste in music.
Every time they started playing a CD (this was before MP3's or streaming), their computer would mysteriously crash after a few minutes :)

Why is it, that the worse someone’s taste in music is, the louder they play it?
 
sleepeeg3 said:
The random Win 7 AntiVirus 2012 infections I keep getting beg to differ... Always with Google image search. Malwarebytes activeshield is the only thing that protects against this garbage.
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I'm not really sure i would call that a security flaw but an unwanted program that keeps getting installed.

For you to keep getting these are you running as a local admin with UAC turned off?
 
sleepeeg3 said:
The random Win 7 AntiVirus 2012 infections I keep getting beg to differ... Always with Google image search. Malwarebytes activeshield is the only thing that protects against this garbage.
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Unless the user allowed the install via UAC, the only issue I have had with these was purely user profile based.

Login as a different user, delete some files... done.
 
sleepeeg3 said:
The random Win 7 AntiVirus 2012 infections I keep getting beg to differ... Always with Google image search. Malwarebytes activeshield is the only thing that protects against this garbage.
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Stop looking up free porn? :p
 
sleepeeg3 said:
The random Win 7 AntiVirus 2012 infections I keep getting beg to differ... Always with Google image search. Malwarebytes activeshield is the only thing that protects against this garbage.
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Oh man.. You admit you installed this "Win 7 AntiVirus 2012"? AHAHAHA! And still you blame Windows 7?? Lay off the porn dude.
 
The secure side of Microsoft products doesn't stop the Apple zealots trying to act superior. Some of them cannot handle that Windows moves on and has got more secure over the decades. Microsoft learns from its past while Apple still runs around with its head in the sand.

Another similar thing that makes me laugh - the BSOD. Anyone notice how anytime someone trying to be "funny" puts a BSOD on an image to say "ha ha, windoze crashes", they always seem to pick the BSOD from Windows 98?


And as to a cloud-based Chrome OS. Well, that is obvious that it is going to be full of holes. There will soon be variations of "Win 7 AntiVirus 2012" for it as most of that scam just flashes web pages at people to "look scary" and then just asks for payment. The virus installs on the computer are almost secondary.

Also - glad to see the BlackHats attacking ChromeOS already.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/03/chrome_os_security_threats/

Anyone notice the raft of Anti-Virus companies all heading to the Google phones now they are filling with Malware?
 
leo-laporte-440px.jpg

Heard Leo Laporte this past weekend during his "Tech Guy" show mention that since so many people now have their Windows rig patched that most vulnerabilities now have to occur through third party software like Acrobat and Flash. Guess Leo was right and wasn't drunk that day.
 
Insula Gilliganis said:
Heard Leo Laporte this past weekend during his "Tech Guy" show mention that since so many people now have their Windows rig patched that most vulnerabilities now have to occur through third party software like Acrobat and Flash. Guess Leo was right and wasn't drunk that day.
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I've had 3 drive by infections in about 12 years now - the oldest was IE on Windows 2000, long before things like Windows Update even existed, next came FireFox with an arbitrary code vulnerability that allowed an exe to be dropped in the firefox folder and run (this was before FireFox had proper automatic updates, back when security issues where still swept under the rug so you didn't even know something had been patched) and most recently an Adobe vulnerability (maybe 2 years ago) while running FireFox.

My current browsing setup has Adobe Reader disabled completely in the browser (and my next build will not include it at all) and FireFox runs under a special account that only has write access to it's own settings folder and to a download folder. Fortunately FireFox has fixed the bugs related to using Firefox with runas under a limited account (the automatic update mechanism would trip over itself).
 
David_CAN said:
My current browsing setup has Adobe Reader disabled completely in the browser (and my next build will not include it at all)
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Some here. Got fed up waiting for the plugins to load only to mess the browser up. So now I download the PDF and open it like any other document.

Other PDF readers are out there which are attacked less. I use PDF XChange ( http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-viewer ). And many people use FoxIT reader. Plenty of choices out there.

Adobe Acrobat and Java are two of the biggest holes on a PC now with rafts of security issues over the past couple of years. I have seen plenty of my clients attacked in this manner.
 
Drive by infections from Flash/Java/Air/Silverlight is the exact reason why I have ninite setup to check for updates weekly. I don't even install Java on systems I build for systems and I don't install Adobe Acrobat viewer, but use Foxit.
 
sleepeeg3 said:
The random Win 7 AntiVirus 2012 infections I keep getting beg to differ... Always with Google image search. Malwarebytes activeshield is the only thing that protects against this garbage.
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Uh huh... google image search...


I can't say I've ever heard of someone getting AV2012 from that, unless they were looking up unsavory things.
 
TheGamerZ said:
Uh huh... google image search...


I can't say I've ever heard of someone getting AV2012 from that, unless they were looking up unsavory things.
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I have seen it happen with clients searching for simple things like Flowers. I have watched them do it in front of me. The reason it happens is the website hosting the flowers has been hacked and is now hosting the virus as well. It is aware of the Google Image search accessing the site and offers it a script instead. And bang. (It could also be part of this Google "Pre loading" of websites)

In the past, the infections were on porn sites. Now you find them scattered all over the place. Many people have a website as a hobby or small business but don't have a clue as to security.

Just look at the bugs in OSCommerce!! MILLIONS of sites are getting infected because of a bug in that common application used on many small websites.

Look over on the [H] thread about the kid with the new arm that is on the front page. There is someone on that thread who got infected by visiting the Daily Mail website that was hosting the story. That "newspaper" regularly hands out infections via its advertising. (It is a awful rag of a tabloid anyway, so not surprising the lack of cash in watching for the infected adverts).

Google is Russian Roulette. Infections come down many tangents now. :)
 
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