Windows 7 x64 and Gaming

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agrindinger

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I was one who used to think that Windows 7 would be something of a fix for all of the errors that occured from Vista. I decieded that I would switch over to Windows 7 from my former install of Vista because of all of these fixes. Now that I have made the switch I have had nothing but problems with Windows 7. I am running the RC and I know its not the full release but still there are so many games that just wont play. Here is a list:

Crysis
Call Of Juarez 2
Fable
Fallout 3 (Noticably lags every few seconds)

I am really tired of this and want to go back to my Vista setup.
 
Not to hijack your thread but i was wondering if i installed windows 7 would i have to completely reformat and restart from scratch once the retail version comes out. Thats the reason i am waiting so long. I don't want to reinstall and waste time. Got a million programs. Wondering if crossfire works great now in windows 7 also since i got 2 4890s.
 
All of those games, as well as every other game I have works fine in Windows 7 x64. You have something else going on there.
 
The only problem I have had with the RC was fixed a while ago (punkbuster), and havn't had any problems since.
 
All the games I've tried in Windows 7 have worked fine... maybe something else is going on?
 
id say it would have to do with the admin mode crap in the UAC.. though im running windows 7 RC on a laptop so ive yet to install any games on it.. but that would be my first guess..

also which video drivers are you using?
 
Only had 2 windows 7 specific issues. One was something along hte lines of punkbuster (they patched it not long after), and NWN2 and thats simply copy and pasting a file from the support forums (3 mins on google).

More details as to what your problems are might be a help, as I've only had good results.
 
Every game you have listed except fable, I've played just fine on my Vista x64 build, no issues at all
 
Fallout 3 might require admin mode. There was a new patch released for it not long ago, so try updating it.

There is a Vista compatibility mode, so give that a try.
 
Fallout 3 and crysis work fine, on windows 7 right now.

Fallout 3 sounds like it is just being fall out 3 :LOL:

However, not wanting to be cruel but you must be really daft to have wiped your vista install for a non released OS.

Also, the fact that you got errors in vista which I and many others have had no problems with suggests either your hardware or pebkac.
 
Did you upgrade or do a clean install? I had lots of problems from upgrading but formatted and installed clean and have yet to have any problems.
 
Acoustique said:
directx redistributable, you'd be surprised

sometimes this helps alot
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To be clear, he's referring to the latest DX9 redistributable. I know... I know... it sounds odd seeing as how Win7 came with DX11, but you seriously have to have whatever is in the DX9 redist.
 
I've played every game you listed (was just playing Bound in Blodd actually). Worked just fine. Well FO3 crashes, but that isn't the fault of the OS as much as the fault of Bethesda never fixing that error as it crashes on me no matter what OS I use.

Menelmarar said:
To be clear, he's referring to the latest DX9 redistributable. I know... I know... it sounds odd seeing as how Win7 came with DX11, but you seriously have to have whatever is in the DX9 redist.
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It comes with DX10. 11 isn't out yet.
 
agrindinger said:
I was one who used to think that Windows 7 would be something of a fix for all of the errors that occured from Vista. I decieded that I would switch over to Windows 7 from my former install of Vista because of all of these fixes. Now that I have made the switch I have had nothing but problems with Windows 7. I am running the RC and I know its not the full release but still there are so many games that just wont play. Here is a list:

Crysis
Call Of Juarez 2
Fable
Fallout 3 (Noticably lags every few seconds)

I am really tired of this and want to go back to my Vista setup.
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This is a Release Candidate not the final product. Doesn't that count for something?

I bet by the time October rolls around most of your headaches will be taken care of.


Fallout 3...yeah, Fallout 3 is just being Fallout 3 regardless of anything else. ;)
 
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I actually was never having errors with Vista. I just said that people were and that I was inspired by them. I think that I will try a clean install (again) of Win7 and one of Vista just to see whats what.
 
Windows 7 would be something of a fix for all of the errors that occured from Vista. I decieded that I would switch over to Windows 7 from my former install of Vista because of all of these fixes.
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Wat problems did you have in Vista, or heard other people were, and where did it state they were fixed in windows 7?

Dont take other peoples word for it, alot of people have opinions on Vista yet never actually used it.


Vista and Windows 7 are not that different.
 
agrindinger said:
I actually was never having errors with Vista. I just said that people were and that I was inspired by them. I think that I will try a clean install (again) of Win7 and one of Vista just to see whats what.
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agrindinger said:
I actually never had any problems and I was using Vista for over a year.
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Then why in the world did you change up anything? Why put yourself through all this needless hassle if YOU weren't having any problems?

I don't get it.
 
Derangel said:
I've played every game you listed (was just playing Bound in Blodd actually). Worked just fine. Well FO3 crashes, but that isn't the fault of the OS as much as the fault of Bethesda never fixing that error as it crashes on me no matter what OS I use.



It comes with DX10. 11 isn't out yet.
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Crap, you better go inform Microsoft of that.

 
I have the 7 x64 RC and XP dual booting on seperate partitions. Why not just partition a small space for 7 to try it out before deleting your current/working installation?

I game on XP and use 7 for all my other activities. Both OS's are on 20gb partitions and then I have a 280gb parition for games and my 1tb drive for nothing but utilities/media. Also makes it nice so I can access all my stuff regardless which OS I boot with.

Honestly haven't installed a game on 7 x64 and I don't intend to until I get the retail version and a new video card.
 
I've been using Win7 RC for about 2 months now, and I have played many, many games on it. In fact, all of the games in your list, except for Fable, I have played and found to work fine in Windows 7. I have not played Fable on it because...well...it's Fable.

Menelmarar said:
Crap, you better go inform Microsoft of that.

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Same here:

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O that is an all too common error that plegued Vista and seems it might have carried over to windows 7. Microsoft named it a PEBKAC error which stand for some long acronym that explains 99% of the issues caused from Vista64 bit and probably Win7 as well.
 
Ok. Heres my plan. Im going to put Vista on one hdd, reinstall my Windows 7 and start keeping the games on their own partition. Does anyone have any objections to this logic?
 
agrindinger said:
Ok. Heres my plan. Im going to put Vista on one hdd, reinstall my Windows 7 and start keeping the games on their own partition. Does anyone have any objections to this logic?
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You might run into that pebkac error again in doing this.
 
I just recently installed and started using the Windows 7 7100 RC and I found that I couldn't run most of the games I currently have on my XP 32-bit install. Now, they work fine after a reinstallation, but it's a pain in the ass to have to do that.

Also, the guy who mentioned the DirectX redistributables was onto something. Crysis Warhead installed a few things when I installed it over Steam that it wouldn't work without. Also, I had to download some kind of DirectX file to run the OCCT GPU artifact tester.
 
I knew what I was doing. By moving to 7 I was also able to get teh drives that had my OS on them out of RAID which was nice because it shrank the drive space that my OS could use.
 
Q-BZ said:
This is a Release Candidate not the final product. Doesn't that count for something?

I bet by the time October rolls around most of your headaches will be taken care of.


Fallout 3...yeah, Fallout 3 is just being Fallout 3 regardless of anything else. ;)
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Funny everyone knocks on Fallout 3 but I haven't had any problems with it ever, including all the mods I have running with it. Must be another one of those user error stories.

Anyways , When does Windows 7 come out? I'm getting tired of Vista, its a POS. October?
 
Krenum said:
Funny everyone knocks on Fallout 3 but I haven't had any problems with it ever, including all the mods I have running with it.

Must be another one of those user error stories.
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Wrong. Just because YOU don't have a problem doesn't mean other people don't have legitimate issues that are no fault of their own or their machines.



You're lucky. A lot of people have had legitimate problems with the game that are not user error related or any problem on their end whatsoever.

I've been one of them.


http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showforum=36

Skim through there for about 2 minutes.

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=942035/

Here's my whole tale of woe dating back to November.


http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=984515&st=0&p=14252060&#entry14252060

That's how most of my problems were solved by and large, although not completely. I still have the occasional freeze or crash and I just live with it.

I think for me it just finally came down to the right collusion of drivers, patches, adjustments on my end, and just flat out luck.

Plenty of people in my boat or worse. Everything else works great on our machines. I'm a fairly experienced end user as are many other people having problems with the game to this day.


Windows 7 comes out in October, yes.
 
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Anyone have a fix for Punkbuster and Windows 7?

It kicks me every 12 or so minutes in Call of Duty 4 Multiplayer. It's a shame because I love that game.
I might try to make a partition and install Vista again later.
 
agrindinger said:
I actually was never having errors with Vista. I just said that people were and that I was inspired by them. I think that I will try a clean install (again) of Win7 and one of Vista just to see whats what.
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you still never answered my question.. what display drivers were you using because nvidia and ati both had borked drivers that were screwed up on windows 7.. and the display drivers that came with windows 7 were fail safe drivers and never meant for gaming..
 
Ron FTL said:
Anyone have a fix for Punkbuster and Windows 7?

It kicks me every 12 or so minutes in Call of Duty 4 Multiplayer. It's a shame because I love that game.
I might try to make a partition and install Vista again later.
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go into your punkbuster folder and manually update it..
 
Windows 7 runs everything Vista runs pretty much, if you're having problems with all them games then something is wrong, either your install is corrupt or you've got some kind of hardware problem, make sure all your drivers are up to date etc.

DX11 is included with Win7 RCs

Crossfire works a treat, only game i've had problems with so far is the Arma2 demo but if you're playing that then crossfire not working is the least of your problems.

Punkbuster was my main gripe in Windows 7, that has been fixed in at least BF2 and CoD4 I'm sure.
 
tesfaye said:
QFT

Wait, what? Post that on a Microsoft developers forum and you'll catch an e-asswhipping real quick. :)
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lol

i know their are differences, but in that sense that Vista drivers work fine for Windows 7, there cant be that much kernal change in that sense :)
 
Most of my game problems were fixed with the compatability troubleshooter (usually XP SP2 and Run as Admin settings did the trick). The one game I couldn't get to run was silent humter 2 tho.
 
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