Windows 7 vs Windows 10, should I make the jump?

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I'm pretty stubborn when it comes to changing OS, because I've got a lot of editing software, games, etc., that take forever to reinstall from backups. I mostly am interested in the interface of 10, and whether anyone has experienced driver issues with the Radeon R9 series cards. I understand that the newer DirectX versions will be better but is it worth it to upgrade? I can do so for free, so money isn't in consideration.
 
fwiw, the OS reset feature works very well, and you can go back to 7 in about ten minutes at any point within the first 30 days. As long as you actually un-check the options it gives you at the end of the install, it really does NOT collect much private data. The interface is fairly intuitive and much better than 8. I'd give it a chance and see what you think. Personally, I like it.
 
Given that I've seen people say the rollback feature causes issues in their previous-and-now-rolled-back OS, I would strongly suggest making a HD image first before upgrading (using Macrium Reflect or the like) and then upgrade from there; that way, worst case you change your mind, re-image your drive back to your pristine 7 build.

I would not rely on the rollback feature at this point after reading of other people's problems with it. It rolls back, but I've seen quite a few people say afterwards they started having issues with their 7/8 systems.

I like the UI, I like some of the Explorer enhancements to task manager, Explorer, and file copy...however, the lack of choice on updates (not being able to choose to not install updates) is arguably the deal breaker for me. I run an SSH server in 7 and other things that I don't really like to have reboot in the middle of the night unexpectedly. I also don't like the telemetry/privacy concerns though I'm less concerned with that now than I was originally.

If you have 7, I'd stick with 7. If you're worried about upgrading during the free period, either image your 7, upgrade (so you have the upgrade tied to you), and then re-image 7 back until DX12 is more of a requirement (which probably won't be for another year if not more) - or, just wait until the last few weeks of the upgrade period and do it then. I don't think it's worth upgrading to 10 at this point for DX12. If you have an SSD, I think you have an even lesser reason to upgrade because 7 on an SSD is for all intents and purposes just as fast as 10 on an SSD.
 
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zero2dash said:
Given that I've seen people say the rollback feature causes issues in their previous-and-now-rolled-back OS, I would strongly suggest making a HD image first before upgrading (using Macrium Reflect or the like) and then upgrade from there; that way, worst case you change your mind, re-image your drive back to your pristine 7 build.

I would not rely on the rollback feature at this point after reading of other people's problems with it. It rolls back, but I've seen quite a few people say afterwards they started having issues with their 7/8 systems.

I like the UI, I like some of the Explorer enhancements to task manager, Explorer, and file copy...however, the lack of choice on updates (not being able to choose to not install updates) is arguably the deal breaker for me. I run an SSH server in 7 and other things that I don't really like to have reboot in the middle of the night unexpectedly. I also don't like the telemetry/privacy concerns though I'm less concerned with that now than I was originally.

If you have 7, I'd stick with 7. If you're worried about upgrading during the free period, either image your 7, upgrade (so you have the upgrade tied to you), and then re-image 7 back until DX12 is more of a requirement (which probably won't be for another year if not more) - or, just wait until the last few weeks of the upgrade period and do it then. I don't think it's worth upgrading to 10 at this point for DX12. If you have an SSD, I think you have an even lesser reason to upgrade because 7 on an SSD is for all intents and purposes just as fast as 10 on an SSD.
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Or you can just save time and problems and just install windows 10. No need to downgrade.
 
For me, the sole reason for upgrading from 7 to 10 was the Nexflix app, which gives me Dolby 5.1 surround sound under 10.

Other than that, MS is still making way too many changes and upgrades to 10 to make it reliable on a production machine that you always need to work for a job situation.

Since the free upgrade option still has 8 or so months to go I would always urge that users in a work situation wait until the very end of the free upgrade period before messing with a well functioning job machine.

Hopefully by the end of the free upgrade period, MS will have come closer to finishing this new operating system, especially the apps like Edge, so that everyone who relies on their computer functioning perfectly for work can upgrade without worry.

Until that time, its essential that anyone considering an upgrade make an image of their harddrive before messing it up with 10.
 
Don't even bother.

Stoly said:
Or you can just save time and problems and just install windows 10. No need to downgrade.
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Okay, your first sentence is directly contrary to your second sentence. :D
 
I would stay with 7 for as long as you can.
10 is a worse experience anyway. And you have to trust that MS can hold onto the data they snaffle from your PC and prevent who they give the data to from reverse anonymising it.
Only the Enterprise versions allow you to properly turn off data collection, this isnt for sale to the public.
 
Yes, go for it. The worst that happens is you have to roll back or, if you wait to long, reinstall from scratch. Opinions are like, we, you know and they all stink.
 
I think you would like it......use a start menu app like startisback and spybot anti-beacon and its like an improved win 7 all the way around. I really for the life of me cant understand all the hate. How hard is it to install 2 basically free programs that make win 10 perfect all the way around?
 
personally im having a great experience with Win10 I have it installed in half of my machines no issues beyond the nasty deletion of some apps with the november update. it deleted me CPU-Z due to "incompatibilities" which I found was related to a bug were after the use of the CPU-Z benchmark the machine may be frozen or act weird.. no any other issue ever, for gaming related.. all and every of my games just run better and smoother, the OS worth only by that amazing resources management.
 
I would say at least take advantage of the free upgrade offer so you have it for the future just in case and that way you'd be able to clean install Windows 10 anytime if you choose to use it at some point. But for the time being, if Windows 7 is serving you well then stick with it. As for DirectX 12, there's what, one single game so far that makes any use of that technology in any manner at all? I'm sure more will come in time but by then we'll be looking at DX13, then 14, etc.

Stick with what works which is Windows 7. It's rock solid, stable, and Windows 10 offers nothing substantial over it aside from a few UI alterations.

My opinions, as always.
 
Windows 8/10 is not a worthwhile upgrade over 7 on the desktop. You lose features, the GUI sucks, the supposed 'under-the-hood' improvements don't amount to a noticeable performance difference, and I wouldn't bet on the DirectX 12 hype panning out as well as some people hope.
 
primetime said:
I think you would like it......use a start menu app like startisback and spybot anti-beacon and its like an improved win 7 all the way around. I really for the life of me cant understand all the hate. How hard is it to install 2 basically free programs that make win 10 perfect all the way around?
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Because the out-of-box experience matters. Defaults matter. And most end users wouldn't have a clue how to install those hacks to get some of that basic functionality back. There was a reason biz and Enterprise didn't trust start menu hacks in 8 and therefore didn't consider upgrading - MS could've pulled the rug out any moment. And in 10, they did just that in the latest update.

And for power users, its a headache playing cat and mouse with MS forced updates breaking your privacy hacks and regedits for no meaningful or must-have benefits or features in 10 over 7 or 8, unless your'e one of the five people that thinks running half-baked phone apps on your PC is totally amazing.
 
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And once you have it how you want, the next update circumvents your installation.
Its still a beta OS, they treat users like beta testers.
Nothing is safe.
 
Stay with 7 as long as you can. If you are interested in going to 10, the I would suggest you image your 7 system, upgrade to 10, test it for a few weeks, and if you don't like it you can always go back to 7.

I'm planning on staying on 7 on all my machines, as I don't see any value in going to 10 at this point. By the time my 7 rigs are no longer is supported, it may be time to get a new machine anyway with better hardware. Windows 7 has extended support to January 14, 2020.
 
Unless there is a new feature you really think you will enjoy, stay with 7. 7 is the baseline on which 8, 8.1 and 10 are all compared with....for a reason.
 
Save yourself the pain, aggravation, frustration and wasted time!
I did it and regretted it and missed the roll back opportunity.

Too many puerile name changes and less control on some features. It isn't a friendly changeover. I don't think that the release was anywhere near a finished product and the start menu is appalling compared to the Window 7 version.
You'll have problems finding stuff easily and it's like Microsoft have done it out of spite.

I've now switched to Linux Mint finally I'm so pizzed with these stupid changes.

If you do think about doing it, get a spare HD and clone the drive and use the cloned drive to run 10. At least that way you'll have no hassles with having to switch back which is pretty much what I did.

I absolutely hated 10 and there's no performance gains worth talking about.
 
raglafart said:
Save yourself the pain, aggravation, frustration and wasted time!
I did it and regretted it and missed the roll back opportunity.

Too many puerile name changes and less control on some features. It isn't a friendly changeover. I don't think that the release was anywhere near a finished product and the start menu is appalling compared to the Window 7 version.
You'll have problems finding stuff easily and it's like Microsoft have done it out of spite.

I've now switched to Linux Mint finally I'm so pizzed with these stupid changes.

If you do think about doing it, get a spare HD and clone the drive and use the cloned drive to run 10. At least that way you'll have no hassles with having to switch back which is pretty much what I did.

I absolutely hated 10 and there's no performance gains worth talking about.
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PS-IF YOU CLONE A DRIVE to run 10...

PSA-PHYSICALLY UNPLUG your old drive during W10 install. Windows 10 will write itself into your old HDDs MBR and hijack the bootloader....sure you can undo it eventually, but it will cause much pain and hassle.


I don't mind 10...so long as it is a fresh virgin decrapified and de-spyware'd install. Not that much different from W7 TBH once you get it running. Font rendering is better simply in part because Microsoft pushed out a KB to wreck font rendering in W7.
 
It depends. If you just play games, watch porn, browse the web and are entertained by the idea that something is new, you may be happy with 10. Those are basic things any version of Windows can do, and Win10 is new. Requirements fulfilled.

If you need to rely on the system for actual work first and other things secondarily, stick with 7. It's the last productivity desktop OS Microsoft made.
 
heatlesssun said:
If you don't use multiple monitors.
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lol, yeah because multi-monitor wasn't something you could do in the Vista era, when it actually worked better than the scaling mess it is now in 10. Or maybe how multi-monitor is used fantastically well in corporate environments right now under Windows 7.

I think you're forgetting that MS took a step back in 8 and messed up things because of how (poorly) scaling was implemented throughout the OS, making a blurry mess out of something that was working fairly well before that. 8.1 and now 10 are still trying to make fix those basic problems with the method MS went with.
 
pxc said:
lol, yeah because multi-monitor wasn't something you could do in the Vista era, when it actually worked better than the scaling mess it is now in 10. Or maybe how multi-monitor is used fantastically well in corporate environments right now under Windows 7.
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I use three monitors with my Elitebook hooked to a dock at work running 7. 10's multiple monitor support is better. As well as window management. Scaling is very much application specific. However, the Vista style method scaling is still there in 10: http://spaghettidba.com/2015/10/14/ssms-in-high-dpi-displays-how-to-stop-the-madness/. SQL Management Studio 2014 sucks on high DPI monitors without forcing the old scaling method. However Visual Studio 2015 works fine. As does Office and even Adobe products now.

pxc said:
I think you're forgetting that MS took a step back in 8 and messed up things because of how (poorly) scaling was implemented throughout the OS, making a blurry mess out of something that was working fairly well before that. 8.1 and now 10 are still trying to make fix those basic problems with the method MS went with.
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All I am saying is that some things with regards to desktop productivity have improved with 10, even over 7. If there is some super duper thing that 7 has over 10 in terms of being productive desktop I'd love to know. Yes, there will be personal preferences of this over that and such. I just don't see how the average person using a desktop for productivity gets anything with 7 over 10.
 
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