Windows 10 Latest Preview Build Release Notes Leaked

Terry Olaes

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If you've been tinkering around with the Windows 10 Preview, the upcoming 10147 build's release notes have been leaked and you can check 'em out here. Are you going to jump over to Win10 from Win7 or 8.1 right away?

One issue that's particularly worth highlighting is the last one on the list. "If you play a media (video or audio) clip or stream," it says, "OneDrive wakes up the CPU every ten milliseconds just to wait on an event. This behavior causes a significant battery drain and battery telemetry problem."
 

Advil

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Yeah, I'll switch every system I have over immediately.

But it's kind of part of my job. I have to immerse myself in each new OS so I get comfortable enough to work on it ASAP.
 

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I'll stick with 7 until I know it is worthwhile and there are no hidden 'gems'/annoyances.
So I'll probably stay with 7 and use a second Win 10 install for DX12 games, because its sure to be annoying :p
 

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At home yes. At work no. We will be testing it as early as next year and roll it out accordingly to our needs.
 

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Been running Windows 10 builds for a long time now. I'll wait for it to be pushed to slow ring.

Not surprised about OneDrive at all - its a total POS.
 

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I've been running the preview due booted with my win 8.1 so I could get the upgrade and it is a lot faster in everything so much of the overhead is simply gone. I normally run a heavily optimized version of the OS and I have only seen two programs that I need to figure out how to get more out of them and both are 32 bit java based. And well some games that depend on IE simply do not work. While my machine is bit of beast I would to see what crazy [H]ard machine could do, say like octocore 64 gb of memory. Skyrim, with a whole bunch of add-ons, SWTOR dev / pts with my ini file, playing around in UE4... I'm running a generation behind almost across the board i7 3970X, and the original titan and my numbers are a lot higher than the posted one for a compatible system.

The craziest thing that most people will not get used to right away is the instanced desktops, where the desktop can crash and programs can thread lock the OS and you can click the desktop button and create a new desktop load the task manager to that window and close the problem programs and then flip back to that desktop. Some programs that want exclusive access to the monitor will crash when you alt tab out. SWTOR does this and you have to do the trick above to crash it. But twice as many frames and more stuff on screen I can live with little issues like alt tab crashes the game. It is not like I lose any progress.
 

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Does anyone have information on how the free upgrade works in the following situation:

I use my Windows 8 machine to upgrade. I then change a significant amount of hardware and want to re-install windows after that first year. Since I don't have an actual windows 10 key, how would I upgrade?
 

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Home, hell yes. It works awesome for home use.

For work? Not likely until we get rid of our homebrew 80s software.
 
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"Does anyone have information on how the free upgrade works in the following situation:

I use my Windows 8 machine to upgrade. I then change a significant amount of hardware and want to re-install windows after that first year. Since I don't have an actual windows 10 key, how would I upgrade? "


You wouldn't, the license is tied to the hardware, i.e. probably mobo/cpu combo that you installed it to.
If we can somehow "extract" a key from the Windows 10 build or use the Windows 7/8/8.1 "upgraded/associated" key again with a clean Windows 10 Iso then it would probably fall under the same rules we use for activating windows keys now, (Call Microsoft Activation support after being activated more than 5 times to "reset" the count to 1).

"What would happen if you don't use Onedrive or have it even installed ?"

Onedrive is enabled whether you want it to be or not, IF you linked your pc to a Microsoft account after the install.
If you use a local account, your good to go, probably...
There may be a way to disable or uninstall Onedrive, it would just take some digging or googling around to get there, possibly a service or the Control Panel- add/remove programs - add/remove features part of Windows.
 

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Well it sound like you have a Windows 8 key, so keep that and the Windows 10 they will give you when you upgrade. I am sure it works like every other upgrade key. You will need to enter in your Windows 8 key or spin the disk to re-install Windows 10.

You may have to get a key finder off of the internet to see what your 8 key is, but if you have a legal copy, you have one somewhere.

As far as the changing the hardware goes, if it doesn't activate because the system is too different, you just call the support line. They really don't care that much. They have always pushed it through the activation any time I have run in to issues with previous computers (family/work tech support), so I wouldn't worry.
 

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Does anyone have information on how the free upgrade works in the following situation:

I use my Windows 8 machine to upgrade. I then change a significant amount of hardware and want to re-install windows after that first year. Since I don't have an actual windows 10 key, how would I upgrade?
If you upgrade to windows 10 you will be provided with a key.
 

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Well it sound like you have a Windows 8 key, so keep that and the Windows 10 they will give you when you upgrade. I am sure it works like every other upgrade key. You will need to enter in your Windows 8 key or spin the disk to re-install Windows 10.

You may have to get a key finder off of the internet to see what your 8 key is, but if you have a legal copy, you have one somewhere.

As far as the changing the hardware goes, if it doesn't activate because the system is too different, you just call the support line. They really don't care that much. They have always pushed it through the activation any time I have run in to issues with previous computers (family/work tech support), so I wouldn't worry.
No need to reinstall windows 8, you will be able to install windows 10 from scratch.
 

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Does anyone have information on how the free upgrade works in the following situation:

I use my Windows 8 machine to upgrade. I then change a significant amount of hardware and want to re-install windows after that first year. Since I don't have an actual windows 10 key, how would I upgrade?
Here's some more info on this from a Microsoft interview:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/yes-youll-be-able-to-do-clean-installs-of-the-free-windows-10-upgrade/
 

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What would happen if you don't use Onedrive or have it even installed ?
Then it's installed for you.

OneDrive: Just stick your nose in it, breathe in deep, and learn to love it!™
 

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The moment M-Audio, SKNET, Korg, etc drop the drivers I need, I'll head over to Win10.

Hopefully, ever :D
 

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Does anyone have information on how the free upgrade works in the following situation:

I use my Windows 8 machine to upgrade. I then change a significant amount of hardware and want to re-install windows after that first year. Since I don't have an actual windows 10 key, how would I upgrade?

I'm not entirely sure, but it seems they're being very lax. MS Gabriel Aul has said that even Tech Previewers who didn't upgrade from a previous version (fresh install) will be allowed to install the RTM for free.

For all of this to work, I assume that the machine will get a license key via the RTM release, at that point you'll likely be able to go through the MS phone system to get a manual activation code by telling them you had hardware change (dead mono. Gfx card, etc.).
 

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Home, hell yes. It works awesome for home use.

For work? Not likely until we get rid of our homebrew 80s software.
If it's homebrew, you have the source code, right?

So covert it to something newer. Not usually that difficult.
 

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I am on 10130 right now and I like it so far. As for One drive I don't use it if at all possible. My internet isn't really good enough to functionally use something of that nature anyway. I do have dropbox but I strictly keep a veracrypt or truecrypt container in it.
 

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I just hope we'll see quick driver support for Win 10. Right now the only hardware I have that has a Win 10 driver is the GeForce graphic card.

My X-Fi sound card is schedule to receive Win 10 driver only by October, if Creative will actually meet the deadline :eek:
 

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Well I can answer what I have seen on the upgrade. They are treating oem and retail activated copies different. The oem copies are tied to the hardware, and the retail copies get a key added to their microsoft account. The key seems to be a fully updated and activated copy though... but that has been the way since vista... the oem do not transfer at least as the last time a ms employee commented and the retail copies are not tied to the hardware. Which is pretty much how win 7 worked if you pay for retail it is limited to one machine no matter which machine. As far as the rtm it does not exist this time around. they are releasing the final build as update to the existing client and have seen on the insider hub that it is basically going to be just like an updated build or service pack. Everyone who reserves and installs win 10 is getting what would be the release to mkg, and the enterprise is actually coming later than the retail version.

One drive has issues which I have ranted about in the past but on the preview you can turn it off but it also lets you store all your settings and move them between computers which is nice. just put it on it's own drive lol... then again I got the one TB deal for like seven bucks a month I may wonder what happens if the bills misses but I'm thinking as long as they get paid I should be fine.

My system has a few weird glitches running the preview but the performance has been better than my win 7 and win 8.1 systems...
 

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Well I can answer what I have seen on the upgrade. They are treating oem and retail activated copies different. The oem copies are tied to the hardware, and the retail copies get a key added to their microsoft account. The key seems to be a fully updated and activated copy though... but that has been the way since vista... the oem do not transfer at least as the last time a ms employee commented and the retail copies are not tied to the hardware. Which is pretty much how win 7 worked if you pay for retail it is limited to one machine no matter which machine.
It still isnt fully clear that if a retail Windows 7 is updated to Windows 10, can the license later be transferred to an entirely new machine.
This is different from the scenario of buying Windows 10 retail. This is the upgrade from Windows 7 retail to Windows 10.
 

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VitalisBer said:
1. From your Start screen, start typing gpedit.msc, and press Enter when finished.
NOTE: You could also press Win+ R to open the Run dialog, type gpedit.msc, and click/tap on OK.

2. If prompted by UAC, then click/tap on Yes.

3. In the left pane, click/tap on to expand Computer Configuration, Administrative Templates, Windows Components, and open SkyDrive (Windows 8.1) or OneDrive (Windows 8.1 Update, Windows 10 ).

4. In the right pane of SkyDrive or OneDrive, double click/tap on Prevent the usage of SkyDrive/OneDrive for file storage.
Just disable it.
 
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