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Will there be a 5890?

I'm sure there will be a refresh of the 5870, but we don't know what it'll be called, or if it will even follow the example set by the 4890. Instead of just being a die shrink, it could be a die shrink plus some additional shaders or a tweaked memory subsystem. If AMD follows the normal time line on these products, we should be hearing something about it come March/April, and maybe shipping May.
 
I wouldn't expect any refreshes until Nvidia at least gets close to selling a new card.
 
jamesrb said:
I wouldn't expect any refreshes until Nvidia at least gets close to selling a new card.
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true I don't expect to see one for another six months, seeing that nvidia won't be coming with a card til q1 2010, I don't regret buying the hd 5870 any more, I mean I learned over time that if you wait you will always be waiting, and there will always be something better and faster, so I try to upgrade every year and a half now. or to a new gen card whenever it comes out, and my next upgrade might be nvidia if they have a better product at the time. who knows?
 
The 4890 wasn't even a die-shrink though, right? It is still at 55nm.

Somehow I doubt they'll introduce another die-shrink into a 5890. The next die-shrink might lead them over to Global Foundries instead of TSMC (or do they have another generation at TSMC ?).

I'm also disappointed that the 57XX series is rumored to be 128-bit. They could have given us at least 192-bit if it's the 4890 replacement, damnit! Leave 128-bit for the 56XX and below...
 
Archmage said:
Somehow I doubt they'll introduce another die-shrink into a 5890. The next die-shrink might lead them over to Global Foundries instead of TSMC (or do they have another generation at TSMC ?).
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I think they switch to global with nvidia late in 2010.
 
Archmage said:
The 4890 wasn't even a die-shrink though, right? It is still at 55nm.

Somehow I doubt they'll introduce another die-shrink into a 5890. The next die-shrink might lead them over to Global Foundries instead of TSMC (or do they have another generation at TSMC ?).

I'm also disappointed that the 57XX series is rumored to be 128-bit. They could have given us at least 192-bit if it's the 4890 replacement, damnit! Leave 128-bit for the 56XX and below...
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You're right, it wasn't a die shrink. It was just a slight tweaking of the core, mainly power circuitry, to allow higher clocks and reduce idle power consumption. If I remember my rumors correctly, they were thinking about going 40nm, but TSMC was having some problems at that time. Sorry for the confusion.
 
The 5870 pcb has places set aside for more voltage regulation implying that ATI was thinking about a higher clocked version of the card. A 5890 seems likely (or whatever they call it).
 
After nVidia's newest is released most likely. 1GHz core with 2GB 384-bit memory would be nice.
 
The 5870 core's have a lot of headroom as far as overclocking goes. I wouldn't be surprised if they could improve the chip after a few months of manufacturing and getting a mature process. My guess would be 1GHz with 6GBps GDDR5 (or whatever is the fastest standard at the time); don't know if they'll call it a 5890.
 
MetalX said:
After nVidia's newest is released most likely. 1GHz core with 2GB 384-bit memory would be nice.
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i suspect the 384bit bus would make the chip bigger than they'd like. the 4890 was not just a good card, it was also a good refresh. competed pretty close with the 275 but cost less. 5890 will probably be just a faster clocked core (xfx ocing to release world's first 1200mhz gpu?) with some improvements to keep it reasonably close in terms of temps / power requirements. can't really ask for more than that...
 
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