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Porphyria

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Well.. I'm becoming extremely depressed over the fact that I went intel over AMD and cannot RMA my processor.

Does anyone think that in the near future, Intel will make a socket 478 processor that is high-efficiency like the Athlon? It would put faith back in me :).
 
Moved here from Gen Hard.




on topic - They already have, it's called Centrino.
 
Why can't you RMA the processor? I've never heard of that.

If your one of those people who fried it from overclocking, you shouldn't be allowed an RMA anyway.

It still amazes me people think one processor brand is more stable than the other. Or is a higher quality than the other. Both companies make damn good processors.
 
Its been like two weeks since I bought it.

Newegg processor RMA Policy is 7 days.


I know they are both great .. etc, but AMD is cheaper and more efficient. Saving money is always a good thing, especially with those 2500 mobile bartons.
 
Originally posted by djnes
Why can't you RMA the processor? I've never heard of that.

If your one of those people who fried it from overclocking, you shouldn't be allowed an RMA anyway.
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Maybe he's one of those people who doesn't RMA a product unless it's actually broke, but instead is simply not as satisfied as he might like to be about the purchase. Or maybe he purchased an OEM processor and has exceeded his retailer's return window for the OEM. That really has little to do with the question he asked and it appears he has now found the answer he was looking for anyway.
 
Originally posted by Porphyria
Its been like two weeks since I bought it.

Newegg processor RMA Policy is 7 days.


I know they are both great .. etc, but AMD is cheaper and more efficient. Saving money is always a good thing, especially with those 2500 mobile bartons.
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What is this efficient crap?

The Northwood and XP's all used about the same amount of juice per performence with the northwoods being a little less when OC'd.

You have three years with a retail CPU through intel. If you didn;t buy retail you should be slapped.
 
What do you mean, I bought it from NEWEGG. YES ITS RETAIL.

NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THE CHIP. I simply wanted AMD instead.

Why? Like I've said so many fucking times, cheaper and more efficient, to me atleast. Getting more use per cycle means something to me, alteast.
 
Thanks for being honest and not RMA'ing if it's not broken, keeps the prices down for everyone else. What processor did you get? Just curious.

I can't stand those people who do stuff like microwave components just so they can RMA. :mad:
 
Originally posted by Porphyria
Well.. I'm becoming extremely depressed over the fact that I went intel over AMD and cannot RMA my processor.

Does anyone think that in the near future, Intel will make a socket 478 processor that is high-efficiency like the Athlon? It would put faith back in me :).
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I think people are very confused with how the CPU architecture works on both sides. The AMD processors NOT more "efficient" really because being more "efficient" doesn't make them faster processors. There are other things in both architectures that affect performance more then the pipeline stages. People call the A64 and Athlon XP more efficient when really all it is is fewer pipelines. Theres nothing spectacular about that. Its just a different route to making a good processor. Deeper pipelines are usually always better though when the processor is clocked at high enough speeds. The Athlon XP has far fewer pipelines then the Pentium 4 Northwood and so you can say its more "efficient" but you can't overclock one high enough to beat a high end overclocked Pentium 4. The reason being is the fact that deeper pipelines doesn't mean "less efficient", it means the work is spread out more and so MORE work can be done MORE quickly. The only problem with that is branch prediction. Branch prediction will hurt performance by taking alot longer to empty the pipelines and start over on a 20-stage network then a smaller network of the Athlon XP's. Thats why they seem more "efficient". But when clocked at high enough speeds the clock speed greatly outweighs any issue with missed predictions. Gaming and multimedia especially favor deeper pipelines.

The A64's advantage lies not in its "efficiency" but the simplicity of its on-die memory controller which lowers latency issues ALOT. Memory latency is a big issue especially in games and thats why gaming is the A64's strongest suit. In other areas where timings dont play much of a role then the Pentium 4 is stronger. Overall with stability, compatibility, overclockability, customer support, and overall performance taken into consideration the Pentium 4 is your best choice unless all you do is game. And even with gaming, i'm a very heavy gamer and i buy tons of new games all the time and i have had no performance issues at all with Far Cry, UT2004 and others on my 3.0c Northwood.
 
Well, it goes to show people should get off there asses and research the CPU's they are buying. I mean FFS Athlon and P4 has been out how long now and you only friggen realized the AXP is cheaper?

God some people.... Ebay your P4/motherboard and get a cheap 2500+/mobo if thats what you really want.

Also why are you "extremely depressed"? because you spent 130 bucks instead of 95 for your CPU? because you only get 96 FPS in counterstrike instead of 105 if you were to go with a 2500+?

If you are this tight on money then you should either stick with a pure budget computer untill you get a job, or like stated in the beginning of this rant post research what you are buying with the millions of reviews available on the net.
 
Neweggs policy on processor returns is not unlike most retailers policy. Retailers and companies like Newegg are tired of having to pay return fees for things that shouldn't have been returned in the first place.

BTW Intel has nothing to do with that. Other than they won't take back processors that aren't truly defective without charging the shit out of the retailer for doing it.

If you got a Hyperthread CPU I can't see why you would be dissapointed. The crispness and responsivness to multitasking that the HT chips offer is hard to beat.

I wouldn't switch to AMD if I had a good Intel setup. Nor would I switch the other way if I had a good AMD setup.

Either chip is good an performs well.
 
The Athlon XP has far fewer pipelines then the Pentium 4 Northwood and so you can say its more "efficient" but you can't overclock one high enough to beat a high end overclocked Pentium 4.
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If you want to compare flagship to flagship, then the 3.6P4EE gets it's ass handed to it by the FX-53; stock or overclocked. Otherwise; why are you comparing different-generation chips? Well, i suppose Athlon XP owns Pentium II in all respects, if it doesn't stop you from comparing different-generation products, why should it stop me??
 
Originally posted by M4d-K10wN
If you want to compare flagship to flagship, then the 3.6P4EE gets it's ass handed to it by the FX-53; stock or overclocked. Otherwise; why are you comparing different-generation chips? Well, i suppose Athlon XP owns Pentium II in all respects, if it doesn't stop you from comparing different-generation products, why should it stop me??
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WTF are you talking about. The Athlon XP and Pentium 4 are same generation products. They are in direct competition with one another. The A64 and FX-51 and FX-53 are both new generation products that are still having to compete to try and be better then OLD generation products which just goes to prove what little performance gain they bring outside of a 64-bit environment. And where are you getting 3.6EE vs FX-53 benchmarks from? I seriously doubt a 3.6EE gets its ass handed to it when the 3.4EE is much better overall then the FX-51.
 
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