Will AMD Ever Beat Intel in Single Threaded Performance?

Will AMD Ever Beat Intel In Single Threaded Performance?

  • yes

    Votes: 55 91.7%
  • no

    Votes: 5 8.3%

  • Total voters
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trick0502

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I think it is posible. When intel moves to 7/10nm they won’t be able to hit 5ghz single core (I think). If that happens amd has a chance.
 

tom_ozahoski

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They already meet or beat Intel in all but the extreme top. If rumors are half true intel will have their hands full later this year.
 
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FlawleZ

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They already do beat Intel in single thread in some scenarios.
 
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chameleoneel

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Some people are getting confused. They already do beat Intel in IPC in some tasks.

Single threaded performance is overall, still in Intel's favor. And that is due to clockspeed. AMD's IPC wins are not good enough to overcome the gap in clockspeed.
 

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they'll likely beat them with zen 3 if they're able to get the clock speeds up. that being said i think intel will lose the single threaded performance crown on their own when they're finally forced to 1. make an architecture that isn't riddled with security vulnerabilities to cheat their performance 2. if they refuse to get rid of their monolithic architecture when they move to 7nm.

the real answer though.. it doesn't really matter, games engines and software are finally catching up to the hardware when it comes to multi-core support so the outliers like CS are dwindling to the point where having the single threaded performance crown won't matter anymore.
 
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I would like to see something crazy like a desktop APU with EDRAM.. that would be really cool.

Along with AMD having the potential to die shrink the IO chiplet on all of their CPUs there are still gains to be had.
 

trick0502

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Clock for clock, yeah. But when you have an 800mhz advantage, you win. Clock is king. The question should be, will intel be able to clock 10/7nm as high as 14+++++++++++++++++++?
 

sirmonkey1985

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Clock for clock, yeah. But when you have an 800mhz advantage, you win. Clock is king. The question should be, will intel be able to clock 10/7nm as high as 14+++++++++++++++++++?
Considering how much power they're having to pull just hit these clocks on 14nm probably not.
 

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AMD already has a slight IPC advantage in it's Zen 2 processors. This is evident given that Intel has to have a fairly substantial clock speed advantage to remain competitive in single-threaded applications.
 

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The amount of performance todays cpu's deliver, and with the parity between Intel and AMD, it really doesn't matter much anymore. If you can get 10 more fps at 260 fps is it going to change your life? Does it warrant spending an additional 300$?
 

XJJack

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Who is going to buy the Intel product when they switch to 7nm and they are slower then there 14+++++++++++++.

They are going to need to come up with something to make us want there products (need to update).
 
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Revenant_Knight

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Will AMD ever beat Intel on single threaded? They already have, and will likely again...also there are a lot of definitions of how this can be done.

In the past, they were faster during the launch of the original Athlon and many times during the Athlon 64 days. Clock for clock back then they were faster...I think clock for clock they're faster now. Not entirely sure.

However, Intel can clock faster. Also it depends entirely on the workload. Will AMD be faster single core than a workload that can use Intel's higher clock rates and quicksync? What about games that use advanced AVX sets? Or programs that love AMDs cache? But does it even matter? Not much of my software really is single threaded anymore, and most of what is single threaded runs blazing fast even on a low end CPU. I see NO difference when I run Office on a R5-2600 and a 9900K.... which even my I5-5200 runs it just fine. My GPU is more important to HEVC 4K60 playback. Games will surely be more Ryzen optimized with the new console generation.

This reminds me of the old Athlon 64 vs Pentium 4 wars. Northwood and Prescott against Sledgehammer and Clawhammer.
 

Revenant_Knight

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The amount of performance todays cpu's deliver, and with the parity between Intel and AMD, it really doesn't matter much anymore. If you can get 10 more fps at 260 fps is it going to change your life? Does it warrant spending an additional 300$?

That argument has been made since the Apple II and 8086 days. ^_~

"....640kb ought be enough for anyone...." - said no one ever, but Bill Gates is often attributed so lets keep rolling with it.
 
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